Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

What some want to distinguish is "emotional state of mind" vs what your body is. How you feel vs what you actually are, which opened the flood gates to all sorts of nonsensical genders such as "cake gender".

However emotions can be the results of various factors, such as nurture, upbringing, environmental influences.

The worst part is that the fringe minority who are actually afflicted by a condition of genital development disorders are used to prop up the entire movement. Literally as if the disorder was part of the norm.

Mate, you are simply talking about a subject you are uneducated on

Mental fantasies vs biology hmmm I wonder what to follow

No,

Simply social construction VS Biological characteristics

This is a consensus mate, you might be against it, but that what scientist and expert agrees on.

And just because there is a source does not mean that it is reliable, considering doctors were at each others throats not even 3 years ago regarding which poorly made vaccine a person should take

Again, consensus.

I could give you a tone of research about gender and sex.

Your problem is your ideology. You don't care about reality, you only care about something that you don't like.

Leave my furry brother alone man

Don't worry, Al knows very well that I'm not the one bodied right now.

If you follow the science, you find out it leads to the money funding it, so you better follow the money to find out the truth.

So antiscientifism it is.

Ok, at least your are honest about it.

Therefore your words have absolutely no touch with reality anymore and your argument is to be not taken into account.

to say someone can feel their gender at birth aka, a newborn knows their gender, is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.

No one says that Einstein. Th point was to show the difference between cis people and Trans people. Abviously a baby has no conscience of their gender.

So just ask yourself at what moment you first felt like you were a boy and do the same for some trans people. That's really not difficult.

So-called Materialists when presented with the most basic facts about biology ever

Idealists when they discover social structures:

"No one cares"
I think you do which is why you're wasting thousands of hours typing essays about it

No, I don't cre about what the bigot thinks. I only care about what he writes

 

[Ravagerblade]

@Logiko keeps crying like a bitch
At this point turds are more useful than it is.

 

[Logiko]

@Logiko keeps crying like a bitch
At this point turds are more useful than it is.

So you left college type insults to go directly for high school ones ? Interesting..

 

[Uncle Van]

Mate, you are simply talking about a subject you are uneducated on


No,

Simply social construction VS Biological characteristics

This is a consensus mate, you might be against it, but that what scientist and expert agrees on.



Again, consensus.

I could give you a tone of research about gender and sex.

Your problem is your ideology. You don't care about reality, you only care about something that you don't like.



Don't worry, Al knows very well that I'm not the one bodied right now.



So antiscientifism it is.

Ok, at least your are honest about it.

Therefore your words have absolutely no touch with reality anymore and your argument is to be not taken into account.

No one says that Einstein. Th point was to show the difference between cis people and Trans people. Abviously a baby has no conscience of their gender.

So just ask yourself at what moment you first felt like you were a boy and do the same for some trans people. That's really not difficult.



Idealists when they discover social structures:

No, I don't cre about what the bigot thinks. I only care about what he writes

You literally used a image(that you probably made yourself), saying someone can know their gender at birth. Once again, you have such a pitiful understanding of even the basics of conversation and debates.

 

[Ravagerblade]

So you left college type insults to go directly for high school ones ? Interesting..

Whatever you say. I don't care. But it seems like you are still affected.

 

[Logiko]

BTW for those who don't really like to be used to train AI:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1816696187765838146

You literally used a image(that you probably made yourself), saying someone can know their gender at birth.

"Felt" since birth.

Of course a babies and very young children don't know sh*t about their gender, they don't even understand consciousness. DUH.



This was a way to make you understand simply the difference between someone with a gender assignated at birth but felt similarily (cis) and with a gender assignated at bird but felt since birth opposely (trans). This was a shematized parrallel. I thought that was obvious. But it seems like I have to explain everything... this is ridiculous.

Whatever you say. I don't care. But it seems like you are still affected.

Affected by your insults ?

I think you give yourself a little too much importance mate.

 

[Germinator]

Idealists when they discover social structures

The social structure of x and y chromosome

 

[NikaInParis]

The social structure of x and y chromosome

The x chromosome might identify as y chromosome, tho

 

[Uncle Van]

BTW for those who don't really like to be used to train AI:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1816696187765838146

"Felt" since birth.

Of course a babies and very young children don't know sh*t about their gender, they don't even understand consciousness. DUH.



This was a way to make you understand simply the difference between someone with a gender assignated at birth but felt similarily (cis) and with a gender assignated at bird but felt since birth opposely (trans). This was a shematized parrallel. I thought that was obvious. But it seems like I have to explain everything... this is ridiculous.





Affected by your insults ?

I think you give yourself a little too much importance mate.

"Gender felt since birth". If you knew the basics of debates and conversation, you don't use ridiculous statements that contradicts whatever points you try to make.

I guess it's good to know you said it for no reason then.

 

[Logiko]

The social structure of x and y chromosome

You are talking about sexual characteristic here, not gender ;)

> Consensus and medical terminology does not agree : https://orwh.od.nih.gov/sex-gender

"Gender felt since birth". If you knew the basics of debates and conversation, you don't use ridiculous statements that contradicts whatever points you try to make.

I guess it's good to know you said it for no reason then.

The point was to make an opposition. You don't understand simple oppositions ?

Do you want me really to write instead of "since birth" > "since the first moment they understand gender which is something that can vary from kid to kid" ?

Your contradictory rethoric just for the contradiction is really not helping mate.

 

[Uncle Van]

You are talking about sexual characteristic here, not gender ;)

> Consensus and medical terminology does not agree : https://orwh.od.nih.gov/sex-gender



The point was to make an opposition. You don't understand simple oppositions ?

Do you want me really to write instead of "since birth" > "since the first moment they understand gender which is something that can vary from kid to kid" ?

Your contradictory rethoric just for the contradiction is really not helping mate.

Yep you really just argue for the sake of it. You said you were explaining the differences correct? You deliberately chose to use "gender felt since birth" as a way to explain it, but then backtrack and say you didn't mean it like that.

 

[Logiko]

Yep you really just argue for the sake of it. You said you were explaining the differences correct? You deliberately chose to use "gender felt since birth" as a way to explain it, but then backtrack and say you didn't mean it like that.

You are being contradictory for being contradictory, its not pertinent. You know full well what "since birth" in this context means.

Its useless to go further, but I want to end this useless discussion so here you go:

Is this easier for you guys to understand ?

 

[Ravagerblade]

BTW for those who don't really like to be used to train AI:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1816696187765838146

"Felt" since birth.

Of course a babies and very young children don't know sh*t about their gender, they don't even understand consciousness. DUH.



This was a way to make you understand simply the difference between someone with a gender assignated at birth but felt similarily (cis) and with a gender assignated at bird but felt since birth opposely (trans). This was a shematized parrallel. I thought that was obvious. But it seems like I have to explain everything... this is ridiculous.





Affected by your insults ?

I think you give yourself a little too much importance mate.

See that's the thing, You have given yourself to much importance and credit, You ain't anything but an insignificant gnat.

 

[Logiko]

You ain't anything but an insignificant gnat.

Why are you talking when you have nothing to say ?

 

[Ravagerblade]

Why are you talking when you have nothing to say ?

Says the person who doesn't add anything to conversations, How rich. You should go spend time with your parent caretakers, go take a vacation and live in the real world and not the online like a virus.
You want be to listen to you, why can't you ever do the same?

 

[Logiko]

Says the person who doesn't add anything to conversations

No, simply things you refuse to understand ;)

like a virus.

Damn.

You want be to listen to you, why can't you ever do the same?

Why should I listen to you if the only thing that you let out of your mouth is hatred and missinformations ?

 

[NAMELESS]

See that's the thing, You have given yourself to much importance and credit, You ain't anything but an insignificant gnat.

Yep you really just argue for the sake of it. You said you were explaining the differences correct? You deliberately chose to use "gender felt since birth" as a way to explain it, but then backtrack and say you didn't mean it like that.

The social structure of x and y chromosome

The x chromosome might identify as y chromosome, tho

This guy is seeking attention, folks. If all you put him in your ignore list, he would need to find another forum to bait people.

 

[Logiko]

This guy is seeking attention, folks. If all you put him in your ignore list, he would need to find another forum to bait people.

Go ahead !

This would simplify my task actually. I could debunk your rethoric while being sure that you would not retort.

 

[RebelliousSoma]

You guys all lack Logiko's indoctrination, therefore you are all uneducated. /sarcasm

 

[Logiko]

You guys all lack Logiko's indoctrination, therefore you are all uneducated. /sarcasm

You means "scientific ressources" ?

Remember, you are the guy who doesn't really trust science :

If you follow the science, you find out it leads to the money funding it, so you better follow the money to find out the truth.