Did Enma have Oden's haki in it?


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Yea but it's clear to me now that Oda sees Kizaru as too close to Akainu in power, to let him go all out against Luffy.

If Kizaru fell this arc against Luffy, it would confirm Oda sees him as a commander, à la Katakuri, before Luffy faces off against Akainu, the Kaidou in this situation.

This tells me two things.

1.Kizaru is probably very close to Akainu in power
2.Luffy and Akainu will fight at some point

When Kizaru vs Luffy was going down, I was thinking perhaps Akainu won't face Luffy afterall, since I couldn't see Kizaru as the Katakuri (commander) who falls in this natural progression. But now I'm quite confident that Akainu is fighting Luffy at some point, and Oda refuses to spoil that fight by having Luffy take on someone close to Akainu's level going all out.
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Oda already drew Luffy embarrassing Kizaru in 2 vs 1 fight


Not even WCI Meme got embarrassed like this against Boundman.

It is debatable which treatment is worse:
WCI Meme who became laughing stock
Or Kizaru who just got forgotten all along and becomes NPC, totally overshadowed by Gorosei
 
You realize its just metaphors lanji, Ace isnt actually talking to Ace lol.
Nah. There's some point to it tbh.

OP is a fantsy show about inherited wills and shit. Of course it would come in to play with inherited devil fruits and swords too.

All we have to do is wait to see if technology can also have inherited haki in them.

Then the monster trio would truly be complete :suresure:
 
Kizaru was respected by Oda through the manga even against Whitebeard, we thought Oda would respect him and wouldnt meme on him and then Pizaru happened lol.

Akainu will get that same treatment lol. Youre way too optimistic bro. This is Nika Piece now.

How does he seal it in the fruit when hes dead lol. Hed have to die for the fruit to reincarnate.
Nika or no Nika everyone will get meme on in OP .
No one is safe .
Shit Kizaru get love stronger than light line that had him talking about physics lol .
 
And to think we were clowning the Vivre Cards recently:kobeha::kobeha::kobeha:

Oden's haki reigns supreme, my fellow Woro friends
Maybe one day Wori will unlock his own
These fuckers were so hyped yesterday cause of the sky split hints lmao.

@HA001 was 100% sure it was zoro vs ethan sky split despite the fact that that didn't make a lick of sense.


And oda decided to drop the best slander he has done to any character in this arc lmao :ihaha:
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
This is why I have Kaido beating Kizaru because matchups matter. Kaido is as fast or faster then G5 as he was blitzing the shit out of him and catching up to him when he was running away.

Kaido also doesnt have a time limit.

Kaido also can fight for days and has monstruous stamina.

So the matchup is in Kaidos favor imo.
Kaidou's hard to argue against, he's too well rounded.

I don't see a good argument for someone like Shanks beating Kizaru atm, plot aside. Since FS is no longer a counter to Kizaru like I thought, it's the other way around and Kizaru seems to counter FS, which is crazy. Since even the combination of FS with Snakeman (something with as much attack speed and as many angles of attack possible) was portrayed as light work for Kizaru, you will need some incredible AOE or some sort of environmental manipulation to press this guy. Just swinging your sword around is doing nothing. It's no wonder he was able to press Rayleigh so much in such short time, s.o to Ray for hanging on.
 
Kaidou's hard to argue against, he's too well rounded.

I don't see a good argument for someone like Shanks beating Kizaru atm, plot aside. Since FS is no longer a counter to Kizaru like I thought, it's the other way around and Kizaru seems to counter FS, which is crazy. Since even the combination of FS with Snakeman (something with as much attack speed and as many angles of attack possible) was portrayed as light work for Kizaru, you will need some incredible AOE or something to press this guy. Just swinging your sword around is doing nothing. It's no wonder he was able to press Rayleigh so much in such short time, s.o to Ray for hanging on.
If you are fast enough Future sight doesnt matter as much.
 
Ethan can't split sky
If there is someone whose clash against Zoro gonna split the sky, it is Shiryu.
lol

Clown take

Fucking saturn, the weakest and most retarded of the gorosei has shown coc. You think zoro's eos matchup wont have coc potent enough for a sky split?

Janitor's captain hasn't even shown coc lmao. you think the janitor will be splitting skies? :gokulaugh:
 
The fact that you are ignoring the story shoving it in your face why Kizaru chose to stay down, is just sad bruh lmao. He's just a cartoon character no need to lie for this shitty manga.
Who said he chose to stay down? Its not reasonable to assume that when we already saw "I cant move Saturn saa-maa" after WSG. As you are getting mad, I will stop here 😂 Btw you still have some hope as Saturn is still on this island - perhaps Kizaru will have one last dance against him
 
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Oda already drew Luffy embarrassing Kizaru in 2 vs 1 fight


Not even WCI Meme got embarrassed like this against Boundman.

It is debatable which treatment is worse:
WCI Meme who became laughing stock
Or Kizaru who just got forgotten all along and becomes NPC, totally overshadowed by Gorosei
yonko are a different breed
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Who said he chose to stay down? Its not reasonable to assume that when we already saw "I cant move Saturn saa-maa" after WSG. As you are getting mad, I will stop here 😂 Btw you still have some hope as Saturn is still on this island - perhaps Kizaru will have one last dance against him
I'm convinced you never read egghead lmfaoooo, I don't blame you tbh, most of the stuff on the island was ass. I stopped reading a few chapters ago myself, only check spoilers now.
 
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