Did Enma have Oden's haki in it?


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Uncle Van

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So if the summoning has a limited range, they are still invincible in Marijoies. Even if you send one flying outside the summoning range, they'd instantly reappear back in Marijoies.

And OP haki seems to be able to disrupt even devil fruit powers. Catch someone off guard and it's an instant effect. If they are aware, haki gotta be OP. I remember how Shanks' COC could still affect Jozu a bit, depsite the latter being 100% prepared.
 
I fail to see how it's a false equivalency.

In OP-verse, we have 3 generations so far:
- Gol D. Rogers, had multiple at the top tier level
- Newgate's, had multiple at the top tier level
- Mid gen, has multiple at the top tier level
- Luffy's, Oda is setting it up where others will catch up to Luffy eventually like Shiki/Newgate caught up to Roger.

Why would we automatically assume Joyboy compared to his own era was a God Tier person, when that has never been the case for anyone else? I'd be willing to bet anything on whoever is Garp/Dragon/Luffy's ancestor will be on par with Joyboy. He's the most important figure of that era, just like Roger was by far the most important of his era. Where as in something like Naruto for example, there's always been 1 or 2 people who were FAR above everyone else from that era, which then continues with Naruto-Sasuke.

It could simply be top tiers of Joyboy's era was simply built different, meaning Trafalgar/Portagus/etc all could have top tiers near/at joyboy's level... which wouldn't be a surprise since the Ancient Kingdom was a vastly more advanced society.

Not saying you're wrong for believing what you believe. But I don't find it likely that Joyboy's era didn't replicate the set up of any other era.
It's entirely possible Joyboy is a direct ancestor of Luffy, come to think of it. I'm not terribly fond of it, but it does seem like something Oda would do. After all Ryuma is Zoro's ancestor iirc.
 

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he really doesnt
the gorosei are fine
the ability that brought them there was deactivated
It does...to some extent

Mars was already at MJ and he was blown away by nika


It seems all elders were blown away by haki which caused them to go back to MJ

And, we have egghead and sea shaking. We have imu kneeling.
 
It does...to some extent

Mars was already at MJ and he was blown away by nika


It seems all elders were blown away by haki which caused them to go back to MJ

And, we have egghead and sea shaking. We have imu kneeling.
Imu is screaming in rage lol.

Mars probably went too far away from the summoning range and was summoned back to MJ.

The elders werent blown away their summoning was cancelled.

Saturn wasnt blown away and he was there too lol. Its because he was physically on Egghead whereas the others were summoned.
 
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