Did Enma have Oden's haki in it?


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nik87

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In future, when it comes to power scaling your wishful #1, you gotta ask yourselves - what are they in front of Zoro/Mihawk?
What are they without their devil fruits which don't work in the presence of ultimate hakimen. Good luck. :zosmug:

you got some Zoro fan tryna say this JoyBoy feat proves Zoro and Mihawk are above EOS Teach and Luffy
They are not wrong.
The strongest hakimen in the show will remain above the DF merchants.
 
Just imagine this:
Kaido hyped Roger haki beyond everything.
Then you had Kaido fighting Gear 5 Luffy in a equal battle, losed in the end.

Then you have Joyboy who has a insane CoC even above these like Shanks and Roger who don't even have a df... at top has the most op DF, using it probably far better than current Luffy with far better skills and attacks...

Dude has a better haki than Roger/Shanks, the strongest devilfruit with a perfect control...

Joyboy is clearly a godtier.
And Luffy is not near him yet, he needs first to surpass Shanks haki and then Roger haki to even play in the same league as Joyboy.

Wano G5 Luffy was able to defeat Kaido who is one of the strongest top tiers, a Luffy who is probably not even close to Prime Joyboy power...

Joyboy is clearly a godtier where even guys like Roger and Whitebeard are not close to him, let alone Shanks who is under Roger...
 
I don't like the wankers myself but i think people are going overboard here with the JB wank too. The haki could not KO VAs in the vicinity, they were effected but not KOd. The AoE is impressive but the strength difference is not as much as people are implying. And we also have Shanks do something similar albeit in a movie with his CoC blast, making Momonga I think get down to his knees.
It didn’t do damage but its the craziness of the Haki shown. It made the sea tremble, split the sky on its own and neutralized 5 top tiers fruits.

And thats just a fragment of his Haki.

His ACoC and just Haki in general would be insane from what we just saw. Like God tier status.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Is Joyboy a swordsman capable of cutting nothing? If not, Shiryu wins.
However, after this recent development, powerful haki might entirely negate Shiryu's nothingness and then Joyboy would be able to win.
Even Shiryu's 2nd DF would be nullified which leaves a swordsman weaker than Shanks...
Boy am I ever glad Joyboy pulled this feat off, much needed, now he actually might have a puncher's chance against Whiryu of the Wrain :finally:
 
Shanks fans and kaido haters logic:

When kaido boasts proudly that Haki transcends all

They say Kaido is speaking facts even though Kaido lost because of Luffy's df bring broken and his haki being amazing, not because of haki mainly.

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They'll deny kaido statement of NOBODY ALIVE COULD BEAT HIM

"No look, the 5 people he saw are above him, they can beat him. "
Well, Prime Oden couldn't do it 1v1 despite being Enraged in the castle. He couldn't do it at war and lost via distraction
Shanks couldn't do it 2 years ago...and didn't even make Kaido be super serious
Those statements mean nothing but hype and worst of all they co-exist and contradict each other. WB was world strongest pirate at same time Kaido was world strongest creature . This can't be case at same time so one of those was clearly fake which one I don't really care ,but point is they can't be taken for granted.

Also it's common sense those 2 want be the strongest as manga goes on.

Shanks already has requirements haki feats and hype to be considered above Kaido .
 
Shanks fans and kaido haters logic:

When kaido boasts proudly that Haki transcends all

They say Kaido is speaking facts even though Kaido lost because of Luffy's df bring broken and his haki being amazing, not because of haki mainly.

But
They'll deny kaido statement of NOBODY ALIVE COULD BEAT HIM

"No look, the 5 people he saw are above him, they can beat him. "
Well, Prime Oden couldn't do it 1v1 despite being Enraged in the castle. He couldn't do it at war and lost via distraction
Shanks couldn't do it 2 years ago...and didn't even make Kaido be super serious
You literally said Katakuri pushes Kizaru to a mid diff. Nobody takes you seriously Ndule
 
I want to explain something that People might not yet realize about what that Rope indicates.

Basic CoO is "Solid" Form of Haki --- Because Haki used for it has Fixed Volume & Fixed Shape
Basic CoA is "Liquid" Form of Haki --- Because Haki used for it has Fixed Volume but Non-Fixed Shape
Basic CoC is "Gas" Form of Haki --- Because Haki used for it has neither Fixed Volume nor Fixed Shape

So Basic CoC is just like any other Gas, it functions similarly.
Imagine if CoC Haki is Part of OPVerse's Air, it can be unleashed like a Wind Gust & also can be Stored in Wind Ropes

Why am i explaining this?
Cuz if you believe that Dragon is definitely a DF User, then you should think twice
And the Fact that He acts as if Wind has it's own Will, this means someone have a Global Haki that is part of OPVerse's Air.
Such Haki would be able to change the Weather & influence the World & it's People in many ways.

Roger, Shanks, Oden, Rayleigh, Gorosei, Yonko ... etc these have Top Haki, it's Overwhelming for sure
But there is a Reason Oda chose to show Haki Feats from all of them & even showed Joy Boy's Haki & revealed his Powers
Yet He refuses to show us Power Source or any Haki Feats or any Fighting-Style Reveal from Dragon & Mihawk

Simply because there is more than just Haki, if it's not associated with "Storms" then you haven't transcended Human Limits.
Mihawk's Introduction Chapter was Titled "Storm" & i already talked about Dragon
And it's not coincidence that MC's Most Powerful Finisher is Gomu Gomu No Storm

Only reason Weather in Grand Line is Unpredictable is cuz it's Man-Made.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Boy am I ever glad Joyboy pulled this feat off, much needed, now he actually might have a puncher's chance against Whiryu of the Wrain :finally:
Well, Shiryu ain't that special without his DF abilities.
Not everyone has haki strong enough to completely negate DFs, Shiryu still claps 99, 99% of the universe. :goyea:
 
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