Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

Logiko really gets people pent up..

There is just a lot of bigots out there. I'm only shading a light over them.

They also ate one another

For some, yes. In specific conditions.

 

[Uncle Van]

Technically it is Jewmerica(and Chinamerica) give how much the US bent the knee to Israel since the 60s. Even JFK popped by the CIA for not wanting to cooperate with them and Israel. And isn't America doing massive censorship to push Israel propaganda and sending troops there to help a genocide?


Depends on context and sarcasm(and no this doesn't mean I believe in some Jewish lizard men conspiracy. It's the same as saying it's Chinamerica given how much America sucked off China). The only true ruler of America is money.

 

[Logiko]

Technically it is Jewmerica

Can you avoid using THE antisemitic dogwhistle of far rightist to talk about the lobbying of Israel over the US please ?

 

[NikaInParis]

Technically it is Jewmerica(and Chinamerica) give how much the US bent the knee to Israel since the 60s. Even JFK popped by the CIA for not wanting to cooperate with them and Israel. And isn't America doing massive censorship to push Israel propaganda and sending troops there to help a genocide?


Depends on context and sarcasm(and no this doesn't mean I believe in some Jewish lizard men conspiracy. It's the same as saying it's Chinamerica given how much America sucked off China). The only true ruler of America is money.

An example of how subservient the US, and UK, are to Israel is the recent Nagasaki situation.
Both countries' embassies refused to attend an event in Nagasaki where they were marking the anniversary of the dropping of the atomic bombs on the city.

Nagasaki's mayor didn't invite Israel citing as his reasons the ongoing offensive in Gaza.

Now mind you, Israel has fuck all to do with the event at all considering the country didn't even exist in 1945 and has zero connection to the event.

 

[AL sama]

calling people bigots is also offensive and toxic

so people should think twice before hitting report or tagging mods

 

[Logiko]

calling people bigots is also offensive and toxic

so people should think twice before hitting report or tagging mods

"Bigot" is a descriptive term. And if you really think its offensive or toxic, then calling someone racist is offensive or toxic. Being bigoted is a synonym for being intolerant. So your comment is problematic on top of being not pertinent.

Now, the reason I tagged Uncle Van here is because of an ANTISEMITIC term being used. Said term refering directly to the antisemitic conspirationnist theory saying that "jews are ruling everything". Antisemitic term instantly reused by van himself to make a point.

Now.. this is not the first time the moderation is using racist rethoric, but its starting to bug me. I let it pass the first time imagining that the error was understood, but it comes back.

@TheAncientCenturion what do you think about that ?

(I'm waiting for the common "Haha, you really think he gives a sh*t?")

 

[AL sama]

"bigot" is generally considered an insult. It refers to someone who is intolerant of others' beliefs, opinions, or differences, particularly in matters like race, religion, or politics. Calling someone a bigot usually implies that they are narrow-minded and prejudiced, so it can be a strong and offensive term when used to describe someone.

 

[Roo]

People still think JFK got killed by the CIA? Lol
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"Bigot" is a descriptive term. And if you really think its offensive or toxic, then calling someone racist is offensive or toxic. Being bigoted is a synonym for being intolerant. So your comment is problematic on top of being not pertinent.

Now, the reason I tagged Uncle Van here is because of an ANTISEMITIC term being used. Said term refering directly to the antisemitic conspirationnist theory saying that "jews are ruling everything". Antisemitic term instantly reused by van himself to make a point.

Now.. this is not the first time the moderation is using racist rethoric, but its starting to bug me. I let it pass the first time imagining that the error was understood, but it comes back.

@TheAncientCenturion what do you think about that ?

(I'm waiting for the common "Haha, you really think he gives a sh*t?")

He just said USA caters to Israel, not that the Jews run the US. It can be a dog whistle of it own, but he elaborated why so it isn’t.

 

[Logiko]

"bigot" is generally considered an insult.

Yes, for those who are being bigots. Just like Elon Musk is thinking that calling someone "cis" is an insult. Being a bigot first designate those who have a prejudice or unreasonnable devotion toward something.

Calling someone a bigot usually implies that they are narrow-minded and prejudiced

Yes.. and when that's the case, its perfectly logical to use the term.

Since it literally describe those kind of situations.



Being antisemitic = being bigoted
Being transphobic = being bigoted
Being Islamophobic = Being bigoted
Being Homophobic = Being bigoted
Being racist = Being bigoted

You don't stop using the words "you are being racist" because the other person (who is being racist) doesn't like to be called a racist, right ? Well its the same case here.

Being bigoted is what we call and what we NEED to call far rightist who depict bigoted values, ideas or rethorics.

So now you are telling that some of those people are feeling offended for being called out ?

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He just said USA caters to Israel, not that the Jews run the US. It can be a dog whistle of it own, but he elaborated why so it isn’t.

When you say that "technically it IS Jewmerica". You are not elaborating on why we shouldn't use the term, you are aknowledging the antisemitic term as legitimate.

 

[Indigo]

You don't stop using the words "you are being racist" because the other person (who is being racist) doesn't like to be called a racist, right ?

"You don't stop using the words "you are a man" because the other person (who is a man) doesn't like to be called a man, right?"

 

[AL sama]

"You don't stop using the words "you are a man" because the other person (who is a man) doesn't like to be called a man, right?"

he is on a short vacation from this thread

 

[Indigo]

he is on a short vacation from this thread

I'm aware

just wanted to show how their own words can be twisted with a simple change

 

[comrade]

Technically it is Jewmerica(and Chinamerica) give how much the US bent the knee to Israel since the 60s.

Ah, there we go with the antisemitic rhetoric followed by gaslighting.

 

[Uncle Van]

Ah, there we go with the antisemitic rhetoric followed by gaslighting.

It was supposed to be sarcasm which is why I said "techncially" and used emotes


I was trying to get context(I even put a disclaimer that I don't believe or support the "jews control the world" nonsense.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

he is on a short vacation from this thread

Oh that's why he is so active in other threads suddenly?

 

[AL sama]

Oh that's why he is so active in other threads suddenly?

probably

 

[Uncle Van]

More of you just prove that you don't read or understand context.

Because of the Isarael-Palestine conflict, many just read the definition of 'Jewmerica' which is the idea that America is controlled or influenced by Jews. Since the Jewish state of Israel literally pays US politicians to push their propaganda, people think that qualifies Jewmerica, not knowing the historical context of it being a derogatory term believing Jews alone control America and that Jews are dangerous and should be dealt with.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

More of you just prove that you don't read or understand context.

Because of the Isarael-Palestine conflict, many just read the definition of 'Jewmerica' which is the idea that America is controlled or influenced by Jews. Since the Jewish state of Israel literally pays US politicians to push their propaganda, people think that qualifies Jewmerica, not knowing the historical context of it being a derogatory term believing Jews alone control America and that Jews are dangerous and should be dealt with.

You’re jumping through hoops to excuse something antisemetic

 

[Uncle Van]

You’re jumping through hoops to excuse something antisemetic

Once again, not excusing anything. Stop assuming.

 

[NAMELESS]

"bigot" is generally considered an insult. It refers to someone who is intolerant of others' beliefs, opinions, or differences, particularly in matters like race, religion, or politics. Calling someone a bigot usually implies that they are narrow-minded and prejudiced, so it can be a strong and offensive term when used to describe someone.

Spamming the report button should be a ban worthy offense.

An example of how subservient the US, and UK, are to Israel is the recent Nagasaki situation.
Both countries' embassies refused to attend an event in Nagasaki where they were marking the anniversary of the dropping of the atomic bombs on the city.

Nagasaki's mayor didn't invite Israel citing as his reasons the ongoing offensive in Gaza.

Now mind you, Israel has fuck all to do with the event at all considering the country didn't even exist in 1945 and has zero connection to the event.

I saw that, ridiculous. Some other EU countries decided to do the same too. Fucking Clowns.
Btw, Ukraine is kicking butt in Russia. Take the war to their lands, boiiis.
https://www.the-sun.com/news/12163884/ukraine-blows-up-russian-gas-rig-massive-explosion/