Controversial General Political Discussion
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You have stats on regular hardworking people who lose careers and jobs massively because they choosed to say something oppressive on social medias ?
I just explained it to you
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Just logical things. Just like you can say the same things for apolitics, liberals and conservatist.
That's what I talked about yesterday. There are political conflict that are linked together. So what you are describing, are not shallow leftist, but coherent ones. (also, not all leftist are for a 1 state solution)
What is more problematic on the other hand, are people who have completely contradictory principles and values.
There are a lot of those people here hehe
I just explained it to you
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Just logical things. Just like you can say the same things for apolitics, liberals and conservatist.
That's what I talked about yesterday. There are political conflict that are linked together. So what you are describing, are not shallow leftist, but coherent ones. (also, not all leftist are for a 1 state solution)
What is more problematic on the other hand, are people who have completely contradictory principles and values.
There are a lot of those people here hehe
I'm assuming that the trans debate here has come up because of that Olympic boxer?
I don't know whether she should be allowed to compete but I do know this isn't a case of transgenderism, it's actually illegal in her country to be as such. She was born with female genitalia, but has XY chromosomes.
To me, that is actually a very complicated situation, because it was only in the last 30 or so years that anyone would have even referred to her as a man. Much less in her own country.
I don't know whether she should be allowed to compete but I do know this isn't a case of transgenderism, it's actually illegal in her country to be as such. She was born with female genitalia, but has XY chromosomes.
To me, that is actually a very complicated situation, because it was only in the last 30 or so years that anyone would have even referred to her as a man. Much less in her own country.
Well I've been trying to spread it around a bit because I think this situation is one that people could actually have a nuanced discussion about and come together for a solution. Usually with the trans debate everything is pretty cut and dry, it comes down to people simply having a different outlook on life. But this situation is about intersex so it might be possible to reach an agreement.
I mean there's a decent chance that it wasn't even diagnosed until she was a teenager and there were complications with puberty.
I mean there's a decent chance that it wasn't even diagnosed until she was a teenager and there were complications with puberty.
Do you remember the link about the town with multiple genders that I shared some weeks ago?
What's wrong with keeping the cis/trans distinction? Fitting trans people in the same box as non trans people only reinforces the binary norm.
No, the trans debate is this thread's main topic, logiko doesn't allow anything else.
This. The definitions of men and women have already changed with the advancements in biology.
What's wrong with keeping the cis/trans distinction? Fitting trans people in the same box as non trans people only reinforces the binary norm.
No, the trans debate is this thread's main topic, logiko doesn't allow anything else.
This. The definitions of men and women have already changed with the advancements in biology.
Yes vaguely
Nothing wrong with it.
I just hope that sometime, we won't have to use it. Simply because it would mean that there would be no difference of treatments between Trans and Cis people
Now, what is problematic on the other hand is to refuse to call a trans woman a woman. This shows that people don't recognize said trans woman as a legitimate woman. Since gender is the only thing that count here.
Hm no. People are in the same box as other people in term of gender identity, they are simply called trans because were assignated the wrong gender at birth and "transitionned". But there is no difference in term of gender identity.
In term of gender identity, a trans woman and a woman are the same. Same for trans men and men.
Don't worry, it's about to change.
Nothing wrong with it.
I just hope that sometime, we won't have to use it. Simply because it would mean that there would be no difference of treatments between Trans and Cis people
Now, what is problematic on the other hand is to refuse to call a trans woman a woman. This shows that people don't recognize said trans woman as a legitimate woman. Since gender is the only thing that count here.
Hm no. People are in the same box as other people in term of gender identity, they are simply called trans because were assignated the wrong gender at birth and "transitionned". But there is no difference in term of gender identity.
In term of gender identity, a trans woman and a woman are the same. Same for trans men and men.
Don't worry, it's about to change.
It's not a bad thing. Being Cis or trans are not problems.
I'm specifically speaking about trans people who transition from one gender to another, not non binary people in general.
And no, I'm not speaking for all of them, I'm simply repeating what ALL trans are saying. No, if you know trans people who don't care to be called a man when they identify as a woman, present them to me, but they will be hard to find.
You will do whatever you want to do.
I'm specifically speaking about trans people who transition from one gender to another, not non binary people in general.
And no, I'm not speaking for all of them, I'm simply repeating what ALL trans are saying. No, if you know trans people who don't care to be called a man when they identify as a woman, present them to me, but they will be hard to find.
Oh boy, can we finally talk about our favorite historical politicians?
