Controversial General Political Discussion

[Bisoromi Bear]

without your consent

People these days hyperfocus on physical violence and neglect mental and emotional violence against children.
Going by that logic everthing and anything requires "consent": schooling, how to dress a child, how to feed them what language to speak to them. Feeding a 2 year old carrots without their consent? Evil! Making them play with the toys that you selected without asking them beforehand? Child abuse!1!
Chill out for once guys🙃

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

People these days hyperfocus on physical violence and neglect mental and emotional violence against children.
Going by that logic everthing and anything requires "consent": schooling, how to dress a child, how to feed them what language to speak to them. Feeding a 2 year old carrots without their consent? Evil! Making them play with the toys that you selected without asking them beforehand? Child abuse!1!
Chill out for once guys🙃

I wouldn't equate cutting off a part of their dick with eating a carrot, you must really dislike them.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I wouldn't equate cutting off a part of their dick with eating a carrot, you must really dislike them.

Giving birth to children without their consent is also child abuse.
I'm picturing a scene in my head rn : victim of abuse speaks, dramatic backround music, "my parents forced me to be born with Italian DNA but all my life, I wanted to be French 😢. Nobody ever asked me how being Italian makes me feel." proceeds to show court documents to sue parents for unconsensual birth

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Giving birth to children without their consent is also child abuse.
I'm picturing a scene in my head rn : victim of abuse speaks, dramatic backround music, "my parents forced me to be born with Italian DNA but all my life, I wanted to be French 😢. Nobody ever asked me how being Italian makes me feel." proceeds to show court documents to sue parents for unconsensual birth

Birth is a natural part of existence and is integral of human survival. Cutting away a part of a baby's dick is not, unless necessary. Why are you being such a sophist?

 

[Zenos7]

I wouldn't equate cutting off a part of their dick with eating a carrot, you must really dislike them.

yeah that was highkey insane

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Birth is a natural part of existence and is integral of human survival. Cutting away a part of a baby's dick is not, unless necessary. Why are you being such a sophist?

But did the parents ask for the baby's consent to exist?
Unconsensual survival is child abuse.



In other news, the following list shows all the women who consented to having a period:

Spoiler

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[Owl Ki]

But did the parents ask for the baby's consent to exist?
Unconsensual survival is child abuse.



In other news, the following list shows all the women who consented to having a period:

Spoiler

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Sassenach, what are you on? You are comparing natural biological processes with artificial mutilation.

Nobody "consents" to the blood flowing through their veins or the increase of mass as they grow into adults, it just happens. Getting body parts disfigured or removed doesn't just happen you disingenuous muppet.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

But did the parents ask for the baby's consent to exist?
Unconsensual survival is child abuse.

I could repeat the same thing I said in the last comment because your question is basically the same.
Or if you want me to give you the silly sophist answer like you are doing I could say that children also didn't ask not to be born.

In other news, the following list shows all the women who consented to having a period:

Spoiler

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That's very transphobic of you to say, Logiko will skin you alive.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Sassenach, what are you on? You are comparing natural biological processes with artificial mutilation.

Wrong. The mutilation is done using a natural biological process called "moving one's hands". As long as no robotics are used in the process it's as natural as a natural birth end even more natural than an unnatural birth.

Nobody "consents" to the blood flowing through their veins or the increase of mass as they grow into adults, it just happens

Yes and that's a problem. You not recognizing the inherent abuse that lies within unconsensual birth is sickening.

Getting body parts disfigured or removed doesn't just happen you disingenuous muppet.

Culture and religion are integral parts of human life. The rationalisation of anything that doesn't seem to serve a purpose at the first look is a highly problematic development we can observe in the west when looking at the last few centuries. Its negative effects on social and communal relationships as well as spiritual wellbeing are devastating to say the least.
You speak like average westerners of this modern godless era. I can't expect you to even grasp the severity of your ignorance.

That's very transphobic of you to say, Logiko will skin you alive.

He has to ask for my consent first.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

He has to ask for my consent first.

And given the topic, you know where it will start from.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

And given the topic, you know where it will start from.

@Logiko
Will you feel a desire to skin me alive for implying that people with periods are referred to as 'women'?

 

[Logiko]

@Logiko
Will you feel a desire to skin me alive for implying that people with periods are referred to as 'women'?

Some men can have period too tho

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Some men can have period too tho

Good I take that as a no.
Did they consent to it tho?

 

[Logiko]

Did they consent to it tho?

Nop

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Nop

It's abuse then, no?


Also you guys didn't address my other points:

Going by that logic everthing and anything requires "consent": schooling, how to dress a child, how to feed them what language to speak to them. Feeding a 2 year old carrots without their consent? Evil! Making them play with the toys that you selected without asking them beforehand? Child abuse!1!

Neither school nor a specific language nor specific toys are necessary for survival.

 

[Logiko]

It's abuse then, no?

Giving life is never an abuse if the person is old enough and it's consensual. It's what happens after that might be one.

On the other hand pressing someone who does not consent to give life IS an abuse yes.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Giving life is never an abuse if the person is old enough and it's consensual.

You mean like Benjamin Button?

 

[Logiko]

You mean like Benjamin Button?

No I mean that if someone who is underrage is r*ped and some people (family?) force them to have the baby, then this is clear abuse (and a murder attempt).

So for giving life to not be a form of abuse, the person needs to be old enough and consensual.

 

[Indigo]

I'm pro choice

i don't think it's murder and i believe the woman should be able to make that choice, no matter the reason

however, i think men should also legally be able to make the choice to leave if the woman decides to have the baby

it's completely unfair for men that the woman can have complete say in it, but the man is obligated to support it no matter the decision

it took two people to make that child happen, the future decision shouldn't be just on one of them, they both should have a say in it

unless of course, one of the parties was forced into the situation without consent

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Giving life is never an abuse if the person is old enough and it's consensual. It's what happens after that might be one.

On the other hand pressing someone who does not consent to give life IS an abuse yes.

You don't care about the baby? Only the birthing person matters?