[FNZ] Super Role Madness Weebs: New Beginnings
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Flower’s username on Mafia Universe is Fleur. Mango called her that without a clear reason. Ratchet suggested that Mango might have seen the name in a Mafia Universe game or claimed it was part of his gimmick. However, that doesn’t make sense because Mango didn’t check the German word for Flower (Blume). The most likely scenario is that someone who knows Flower as Fleur called her that, and Mango picked it up. Ratchet concluded that Mango lied about why he used the name Fleur, which is suspicious.
Underlined - Strawman, my reasoning is that youte unlikely to randomly refer to her as Fleur, without having some prompt to link that name to her. You do, after all, typically call her "Flower". Moreover, you said that you called her Fleur to lean into your German doctor aesthetic, to argue that her name being that on MU had nothing to do with it. Of course, Fleur isn't German, so this can't possibly be the case, and it's only after this fact is presented that her name being that on MU comes into play for you. One would think, if it were the case, you'd have mentioned this in your original response!
Bolded - Guilt-tripping, a common form of manipulation to attempt to make the subject matter undesirable to engage with. By making the accusation about insulting your intelligence, you attempt to charge what I'm saying as if it is underlaid with an insult, in the hopes that the prospect of you taking offence is enough for to back off of it. And if it isn't, it may at least encourage others to look past it. Not good enough.
Bolded - Guilt-tripping, a common form of manipulation to attempt to make the subject matter undesirable to engage with. By making the accusation about insulting your intelligence, you attempt to charge what I'm saying as if it is underlaid with an insult, in the hopes that the prospect of you taking offence is enough for to back off of it. And if it isn't, it may at least encourage others to look past it. Not good enough.
I'll give you credit for your effort in trying to justify your conclusion based on wild amount of conjecture and assumptions.
But it is just that, baseless assumptions and conjecture.
I can only assume you're doing this to reaction test, because I don't believe that you yourself believe this story
But it is just that, baseless assumptions and conjecture.
I can only assume you're doing this to reaction test, because I don't believe that you yourself believe this story
I'm sure he has. But I would argue it's neither A) common, or B) lines up with his original story. You're free to make your own conclusions after that, including on his response, which I find to be less that satisfactory. Happy to stay the course with Watson if this isn't compelling enough for a Day 1 lynch.
Yes, yes.
If you read what I said, thinking fleur was German was an assumption that I had made subconsciously. So because I was under the assumption that was the case, I leaned into the gimmick.
It really isn't deeper than that, even if you want it to be.
And to adress your bit about manipulation, the reason I brought it up was due to OddOdd's comment in the post game of weebs '22 where he said something to the effect of "the only reason you won was because people think you actually is that stupid"
If you read what I said, thinking fleur was German was an assumption that I had made subconsciously. So because I was under the assumption that was the case, I leaned into the gimmick.
It really isn't deeper than that, even if you want it to be.
And to adress your bit about manipulation, the reason I brought it up was due to OddOdd's comment in the post game of weebs '22 where he said something to the effect of "the only reason you won was because people think you actually is that stupid"
I mean, this doesn't really mean anything to me. I laid out my accusation and why I believed it so. You telling me that it actually means something that I find to be less compelling is w/e. As for the second part, I can't exactly ignore what it serves to do though (you can claim it's unintentional, but everyone who has ever employed guilt tripping would likely also claim it's unintentional, that's how manipulation works). To me, it was an escalation that had no basis in reality - there was no reason to take from my post an insult and my posts had nothing to do with OddOddFruit.
It's not a bang to rights case. Still want you dead though <3. I also think your claim that you don't think I can possibly believe it was pretty convenient, because given how I've outlined it, and the explanations you've given, there is no way you could reasonably expect me to deduce where your mind supposedly was to make those comments, and so I think you should be finding it quite easy to see my point of view. But refusing to concede ground to your interlocutor in terms of how genuine the claim is, is another hallmark of scum.
It's not a bang to rights case. Still want you dead though <3. I also think your claim that you don't think I can possibly believe it was pretty convenient, because given how I've outlined it, and the explanations you've given, there is no way you could reasonably expect me to deduce where your mind supposedly was to make those comments, and so I think you should be finding it quite easy to see my point of view. But refusing to concede ground to your interlocutor in terms of how genuine the claim is, is another hallmark of scum.
Lol. Just to summarise here:
Mango calls Flower by the name she goes by on MU.
Flower calls this out.
Mango says he just called her that because he's pretending to be a German doctor.
Flower, again, points out that Fleur isn't German, but French.
I point out that it doesn't make sense for Mango to choose Fleur on the basis that he said it did, because the German word for Flower is nothing like Fleur. In other words he must have gotten it from somewhere else.
Mango, effectively, concedes that he did get it from somewhere else, but that it's outrageous to claim he slipped up. He then invokes several manipulation tactics, including guilt tripping and deflection.
I point out the above.
Mango says it wasn't guilt tripping, because at the time he was thinking of a random quote from a completely unrelated party that said Mango likes to pretend to be dumb.
So in short, Mango expects me to deduce exactly where his inner psyche goes, concedes at several points that the conclusions I made tracked logically, but actually meant something else, and yet through all this, can't possibly see how I could make said conclusions, and ends up on an OMGUS vote before leaving the thread.
Really makes me think.
Mango calls Flower by the name she goes by on MU.
Flower calls this out.
Mango says he just called her that because he's pretending to be a German doctor.
Flower, again, points out that Fleur isn't German, but French.
I point out that it doesn't make sense for Mango to choose Fleur on the basis that he said it did, because the German word for Flower is nothing like Fleur. In other words he must have gotten it from somewhere else.
Mango, effectively, concedes that he did get it from somewhere else, but that it's outrageous to claim he slipped up. He then invokes several manipulation tactics, including guilt tripping and deflection.
I point out the above.
Mango says it wasn't guilt tripping, because at the time he was thinking of a random quote from a completely unrelated party that said Mango likes to pretend to be dumb.
So in short, Mango expects me to deduce exactly where his inner psyche goes, concedes at several points that the conclusions I made tracked logically, but actually meant something else, and yet through all this, can't possibly see how I could make said conclusions, and ends up on an OMGUS vote before leaving the thread.
Really makes me think.
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