Questions & Mysteries Will IMU or Blackbeard be the Final Villain?
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No, Saturn+Kizaru at the same time > Kaido.
Warcury+JuPeter at the same time > Kaido
Debunked easy.
You can't prove otherwise it won't be like Kaku > Daz Bones, so you can think what you want.
But for sure ZKKfans don't want even Shiryu = Mihawk, so in their mind Shiryu must fall before so according to them Teach can't be FV.
Warcury+JuPeter at the same time > Kaido
Debunked easy.
You can't prove otherwise it won't be like Kaku > Daz Bones, so you can think what you want.
But for sure ZKKfans don't want even Shiryu = Mihawk, so in their mind Shiryu must fall before so according to them Teach can't be FV.
You must be joking. 
You seriously believe without Imu, there would be no slavery and no wars?
Without Imu, there would be still same amount of slavery and same amount of wars.
One Piece is in medieval era, slavery and wars happens all the time in that era.
Why countries want to join Imu's Government to get protection from Pirates and other enemy countries then? What Marines (good ones) even doing?
You seriously believe without Imu, there would be no slavery and no wars?
Without Imu, there would be still same amount of slavery and same amount of wars.
One Piece is in medieval era, slavery and wars happens all the time in that era.
Why countries want to join Imu's Government to get protection from Pirates and other enemy countries then? What Marines (good ones) even doing?
I can prove to you that people coming after Kaido arent stronger than Kaido.
You can kiss that argument goodbye unless you have something specific. So, do you?
As I said, I am a ZKK fan and in my mind, Shiryu doesn't have to fall before Mihawk.
And I also think Teach could be FV despite not thinking he will be.
What are you going to do about it?
You can kiss that argument goodbye unless you have something specific. So, do you?
As I said, I am a ZKK fan and in my mind, Shiryu doesn't have to fall before Mihawk.
And I also think Teach could be FV despite not thinking he will be.
What are you going to do about it?
I can prove to you that people coming after Kaido arent stronger than Kaido.
You can kiss that argument goodbye unless you have something specific. So, do you?
As I said, I am a ZKK fan and in my mind, Shiryu doesn't have to fall before Mihawk.
And I also think Teach could be FV despite not thinking he will be.
What are you going to do about it?
You can kiss that argument goodbye unless you have something specific. So, do you?
As I said, I am a ZKK fan and in my mind, Shiryu doesn't have to fall before Mihawk.
And I also think Teach could be FV despite not thinking he will be.
What are you going to do about it?
You must be joking.
You seriously believe without Imu, there would be no slavery and no wars?
Without Imu, there would be still same amount of slavery and same amount of wars.
One Piece is in medieval era, slavery and wars happens all the time in that era.
Why countries want to join Imu's Government to get protection from Pirates and other enemy countries then? What Marines (good ones) even doing?
You seriously believe without Imu, there would be no slavery and no wars?
Without Imu, there would be still same amount of slavery and same amount of wars.
One Piece is in medieval era, slavery and wars happens all the time in that era.
Why countries want to join Imu's Government to get protection from Pirates and other enemy countries then? What Marines (good ones) even doing?
No I am saying there would be still same amount of slave masters and wars without Imu as well due to the era they are living in.
People like Garp, Sengoku, Fujitora know this thats why they are still staying in Marines, there are no simple answers for both sides, no simple answers for good and evil. Blaming Imu for everything and thinking when Imu is gone, there won't be slavery and wars is too naive.
People like Garp, Sengoku, Fujitora know this thats why they are still staying in Marines, there are no simple answers for both sides, no simple answers for good and evil. Blaming Imu for everything and thinking when Imu is gone, there won't be slavery and wars is too naive.
No Oda specifically talks about the bad things WG did and how its worst organisation right now like Ohara. When the WG is gone slavery wont end but the world will become a better place.
Oda separates Marines from the WG . They arent portrayed in the same light you know. Marines have some good guys with good ideals but the celestial dragons arent like that. Elders, Gods Knights, CP0 all the factions directly related to the celestial dragons are portrayed in a bad light.
Oda separates Marines from the WG . They arent portrayed in the same light you know. Marines have some good guys with good ideals but the celestial dragons arent like that. Elders, Gods Knights, CP0 all the factions directly related to the celestial dragons are portrayed in a bad light.
Imu is too obvious. The WG is already too heavily involved and declining, while Blackbeard keeps powering up in the background.
Also in terms of sheer portrayal:
- An anomaly capable of consuming multiple DFs, even the centuries old Gorosei said this is unheard of
- Of the D. clan.
- Having Imu being concerned of and holding his poster along with Luffy
- Both his crew and Saturn himself pointing out that Blackbeard is special
- Shanks being concerned
People are fooled because Blackbeard isn't the usual fake-invincible foe who gets exposed overtime, Blackbeard is the opposite and reminiscent of Luffy himself, growing through trail and error, being vulnerable, careless, getting his ass kicked in round 1 and then bouncing back and wrecking his opponent.
And it doesn't matter Blackbeard wasn't the guy Roger was waiting for, because as Vegapunk said, the One Piece may as well fall into the wrong hands. And Blackbeard not being the guy doesn't mean he won't be the final obstacle.
So FV will either be Blackbeard or a yet unknown character. But the bigger bad is a recurring theme in Shounen. As for Blackbeard, while he was introduced very early, we still know little to nothing about his motives, his past, his character and being.
Also in terms of sheer portrayal:
- An anomaly capable of consuming multiple DFs, even the centuries old Gorosei said this is unheard of
- Of the D. clan.
- Having Imu being concerned of and holding his poster along with Luffy
- Both his crew and Saturn himself pointing out that Blackbeard is special
- Shanks being concerned
People are fooled because Blackbeard isn't the usual fake-invincible foe who gets exposed overtime, Blackbeard is the opposite and reminiscent of Luffy himself, growing through trail and error, being vulnerable, careless, getting his ass kicked in round 1 and then bouncing back and wrecking his opponent.
And it doesn't matter Blackbeard wasn't the guy Roger was waiting for, because as Vegapunk said, the One Piece may as well fall into the wrong hands. And Blackbeard not being the guy doesn't mean he won't be the final obstacle.
So FV will either be Blackbeard or a yet unknown character. But the bigger bad is a recurring theme in Shounen. As for Blackbeard, while he was introduced very early, we still know little to nothing about his motives, his past, his character and being.
There might be chaos after Government is gone, the Levely and Revolutionary will have to decide things then without Celestials controlling, and they have to decide which countries will join Government, they will still have to decide how much tax they need to join Government because as they said Marines need more money, and they will fight for Levely positions as we see when some country tried to sell Kaido for a Levely position. There will be also rival countries, and there might be even more wars since there won't be powerful Government to control them.
Will even Marines exist without Government taking taxes, and which countries will be allowed to join, some countries still won't be able to pay taxes so Marines won't defend them. As I said, you are too naive to think it will be better for sure. If Government was simply as evil as you think, then countries wouldn't want to join them, but they are even paying taxes to just to be with them.
Also, Government has little power in New World, New World will all be same without Imu.
Will even Marines exist without Government taking taxes, and which countries will be allowed to join, some countries still won't be able to pay taxes so Marines won't defend them. As I said, you are too naive to think it will be better for sure. If Government was simply as evil as you think, then countries wouldn't want to join them, but they are even paying taxes to just to be with them.
Also, Government has little power in New World, New World will all be same without Imu.
Roger defeated Xebec with the help of just Garp.
Even after becoming Pirate King and finding out the true history of the world, he could do nothing to topple Imu except entrust it to the next coming of the lord and saviour Joyboy.
Imu is simply beyond the hopes of any single pirate crew & 1 Marine top tier.
Joyboy is going to need a worldwide alliance to put an end to Imu’s 800 year reign.
The dawn of the world that generations have dreamed of long before Blackbeard was even born…atrocities like the torment of Fishmen or genocide of Lunarians and other races that Blackbeard hasn’t even been a part of…that is what Joyboy has to put an end to. All that obviously overshadows an upstart pirate vying for the measly throne of the Pirate King.
Even after becoming Pirate King and finding out the true history of the world, he could do nothing to topple Imu except entrust it to the next coming of the lord and saviour Joyboy.
Imu is simply beyond the hopes of any single pirate crew & 1 Marine top tier.
Joyboy is going to need a worldwide alliance to put an end to Imu’s 800 year reign.
The dawn of the world that generations have dreamed of long before Blackbeard was even born…atrocities like the torment of Fishmen or genocide of Lunarians and other races that Blackbeard hasn’t even been a part of…that is what Joyboy has to put an end to. All that obviously overshadows an upstart pirate vying for the measly throne of the Pirate King.
