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What do you mean? Like Brazilians migrating abroad, because Brazil has gone to the dogs? No. Even if we go down like Venezuela, most people cannot afford to migrate and family ties is also one factor that makes people shy away from migrating. Most Brazilians citizens have never traveled to a different state within the country, let alone another country.
But...we have around 5 million Brazilians with Portuguese citizenship. Portugal has around 10 million citizens living in its territory and they have an aging population and declining birth rates. The young ones seek to live in other places within Europe too. Some people feel that Portugal could turn into a Brazilian state due to demographics.
There is growing xenophobia against Brazilians in Portugal due to many reasons. Brazilians migrating might be trouble for Portugal, but not for the rest of Europe.
Be careful.
But...we have around 5 million Brazilians with Portuguese citizenship. Portugal has around 10 million citizens living in its territory and they have an aging population and declining birth rates. The young ones seek to live in other places within Europe too. Some people feel that Portugal could turn into a Brazilian state due to demographics.
There is growing xenophobia against Brazilians in Portugal due to many reasons. Brazilians migrating might be trouble for Portugal, but not for the rest of Europe.
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So now you're moving the goalpost? It's an emergency. No western country denies healthcare in case of an emergency, that's even the case in the United States. So what, if someone has appendicitis are you gonna wait until it's too late? Or are you gonna provide the service and then arrange payment? It's a case by case basis, it doesn't mean you can just go to a specialist without paying.
Also, check the key words that you conveniently ignore "limited contribution" and "depending on the public hospital's policy." It still doesn't change the fact that if you're not a resident or a citizen, then you aren't officially covered. You can't just get cancer treatment willy nilly.
Also, check the key words that you conveniently ignore "limited contribution" and "depending on the public hospital's policy." It still doesn't change the fact that if you're not a resident or a citizen, then you aren't officially covered. You can't just get cancer treatment willy nilly.
Dude, who the fuck would want to migrate to Brazil? There are Venezuelans migrating to Roraima due to the harsh conditions they suffer, but they only do that because staying in Venezuela means hunger. This is a third world country and we are basically isolated from the rest of the world. We have natural barriers that even make it difficult for nations that borders us to have access to Brazilian lands. We are kind like Australia: Isolated in the middle of fucking nowhere.
A short answer: Geography alone makes a migration crisis similar to the European one close to impossible down here.
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A short answer: Geography alone makes a migration crisis similar to the European one close to impossible down here.
Do you know what an emergency is? An immediate threat to your physical well being. Analyze the word "immediate"
Do you think a Chinese national has the time to take a flight all the way to Italy in order to get his appendix removed? He'll spend more money on tickets and other fees before he actually gets the care he needs, and he'll probably die on the way. Touch grass, arguing against providing a service in case of an emergency for tourists is not the slam dunk you think it is. The EU still demands foreigners who enter its territory with some sort of visa to buy medical insurance before travel.
Do you think a Chinese national has the time to take a flight all the way to Italy in order to get his appendix removed? He'll spend more money on tickets and other fees before he actually gets the care he needs, and he'll probably die on the way. Touch grass, arguing against providing a service in case of an emergency for tourists is not the slam dunk you think it is. The EU still demands foreigners who enter its territory with some sort of visa to buy medical insurance before travel.
Bottom line is what they pay here is a joke compared to their own countries and they don't even pay taxes here. And when you go to some other countries like the USA, you get ripped.
About the Chinese example, imagine they come here and book visit and the like because they are too expensive in their country, do you think they will get denied?
About the Chinese example, imagine they come here and book visit and the like because they are too expensive in their country, do you think they will get denied?
They might do the interests of another country, even more than they do normally. Think about the head of our Democratic Party here, she has 3 citizenships (most likely 4 if she just asked for a certain other). Would you trust a person like that to lead your country or handle classified information?
Why so upset? That's what you do in the US.
Why so upset? That's what you do in the US.
And round and round we go. We already proved that non legal migrants are not entitled to free healthcare. If you're a foreigner coming to the EU for cancer treatment or any other non immediate/life threatening emergency (let's remember a medical emergency means an immediate threat to your physical integrity like a heart attack or a life threatening injury) you STILL have to pay out of pocket or have international insurance.
I know you hate foreigners of all kinds. But let's stop it with the conspiracy theories.
I know you hate foreigners of all kinds. But let's stop it with the conspiracy theories.
You didn't prove anything, as irregulars are also treated for free for emergencies. They also can't or won't pay if they were required to, often. If they come here from outside for treatment it must obviously mean that the price is much smaller than in their countries. The public healthcare system probably makes up for it significantly.
