Speculations Is there a pattern here?

[Cruxroux]

Concession accepted, you arent even aware what you are asking for and now you move the goalpost.

He thinks Luffy with just barrier Haki.
No G5 , No attack. Just barrier can take on Blazing Bagua , Hakai.

 

[nik87]

Hakai

If Zoro can, Luffy(Sanji) can do it too, ofc.

 

[Fujishiro]

Yes and nothing Worked Bar adcoc on him.
That's durablity you fuckin clown.

You cant say his durability was made moot and say nothing you neanderthal, wtf. He was getting damaged just not damaged enough which means his durability was bypassed.

Durablity - the quality of being able to last a long time without becoming damaged.

But he was getting damaged lol.

Kaidou had no problem Dealing anyone.

Yeah he just worked through the hits.

Bro running out of cope lmao.

What cope? You response to me saying Kaido went through a gauntled and I doubt Mihawk can do the same was '' He cut down 50 ships''????? Like what the fuck is the point of that answer?

How many of them gave Kaidou PTSD.

Answer the fucking question and stop dodging it.

 

[Cruxroux]

If Zoro can, Luffy(Sanji) can do it too, ofc.

I won't be surprised EOS if zoro becomes strongest and Sanji and Luffy are WS too because. Zoro is.

 

[Fujishiro]

Concession accepted, you arent even aware what you are asking for and now you move the goalpost.

Im not moving the goal post that was the main question all along.

And you refuse to answer it.

Endurance is taking hits and keeping going can Mihawk take as many hits as Kaido did and continue through, yes or no.

Cruxroux 3.0 said yes.


Endurance is taking hits and keeping going can Mihawk take as many hits as Kaido did and continue through, yes or no.

He thinks Luffy with just barrier Haki.
No G5 , No attack. Just barrier can take on Blazing Bagua , Hakai.

Oh my god, he literally used that Haki to not get hurt by Blazing Bagua. And I never said take on Haki, just barely block it and make it through severely injured like Zoro was.

If Zoro can, Luffy(Sanji) can do it too, ofc.

Why are you bringing Sanji into this conversation?

I won't be surprised EOS if zoro becomes strongest and Sanji and Luffy are WS too because. Zoro is.

Luckily for Luffy hes the MC, he doesnt have to leech of Zoro to be anything.

 

[nik87]

Im not moving the goal post that was the main question all along.

And you refuse to answer it.

Endurance is taking hits and keeping going can Mihawk take as many hits as Kaido did and continue through, yes or no.

Cruxroux 3.0 said yes.


Endurance is taking hits and keeping going can Mihawk take as many hits as Kaido did and continue through, yes or no.

Educate yourself by reading what I explained to m944.

 

[Cruxroux]

Oh my god, he literally used that Haki to not get hurt by Blazing Bagua. And I never said take on Haki, just barely block it and make it through severely injured like Zoro was.

" Barely block hakai with barrier. "

 

[Fujishiro]

Educate yourself by reading what I explained to m944.

I read it, you didnt answer the question at all.

" Barely block hakai with barrier. "

Thats what Zoro did so why are you laughing?

 

[Dcbluffy]

bro snuck zoro n there 😂 😂

 

[Cruxroux]

Thats what Zoro did so why are you laughing?

That's Zoro physical prowess + Haki Coated Blades (temperary black blades).

Luffy would be reduced atoms.


Just for a perspectice. This is the difference between zoro Haki and Luffy Haki.

Spoiler: Zoro Haki , only Hardening

Spoiler: Luffy barrier + Hardening

Spoiler: G5 Luffy which was enchanted With conqueror and Armanent defense

 

[Fujishiro]

That's Zoro physical prowess + Haki Coated Blades (temperary black blades).

Lol. So Zoro didnt use Barrier Haki against Hakai is that what youre saying?

Luffy would be reduced atoms.

Yes compare Rooftop Kaido who's sandbagging to Drunk Mode Kaido.

Btw just curious what difficulty is Luffy vs Zoro for you.

G5 Luffy wasnt defending himself with Haki to defend himself lol.

He was using it offensively though yeah. Up until Kaido used Flaming Bagua and Luffy used Barrier Haki to defend himself.

 

[M944]

Yes, it increases endurance but those are two different stats.
And you cannot ask if Kaido's endurance is better than Mihawk's, at least not like that.
What you are actually asking is - are Kaido's recovery+endurance better than Mihawk's endurance alone...

Endurance is indeed determined by willpower.
Willpower doesn't affect active recovery, only might affect the passive.
Actually, BM has huge recovery stat, at least while she has souls to spend.

Once I explain this in detail, you might believe Mihawk's endurance>Big Mom's endurance...
What you are looking at is this - damage accumulation. And damage accumulation is affected by several factors.
And one particularly stands out and it is recovery.

That's why people with high recovery and regenerations look like kings of endurance because they take countless damage and keep going. But that doesn't mean their endurance is best or better than endurance of someone else who cannot take as much damage because they lack recovery/regen...


Wrong.
Without recovery stat, Kaido would be another Hody Jones.
Suffering from Zoro's wound the whole time.

Regarding Mihawk vs Kaido in endurance, read above what I explained to m944.

The issue here IS that you mistake natural recovery (which comes from your body) and externnal recovery (drugs, hax and so on)
Natural recovery is also really limited
BM's natural recovery was never hyped (even Kaido's one)
BM sure can spare soul but it doesn't increase her endurance because it's external to her body (comes from a DF ability)


Therefore we can compare Endurance
So my question is "Does Kaido/BM haves Better Endurance than Mihawk ?

 

[Cruxroux]

Lol. So Zoro didnt use Barrier Haki against Hakai is that what youre saying?

He didn't lol.
It was straight Up blackblades. Zoro absorbed the whole shock of the attack.

Yes compare Rooftop Kaido who's sandbagging to Drunk Mode Kaido.

It's literally the same attack nothing would change lmao.
Zoro would counter it the same way.

Btw just curious what difficulty is Luffy vs Zoro for you.

Zoro wins

 

[Thabeast]

Vivre Cards stated their power is comparable. And I don't think they'd pull such info from nowhere.
It's possible but I would not bet on it tbh lol.
Another possible pattern is the swordsman pattern : Mihawk, Shiryu, Zoro and Shanks are stronger than the non swordsmen Buggy, BB, Luffy, Beck, so it's a W either way

 

[Fujishiro]

He didn't lol.
It was straight Up blackblades. Zoro absorbed the whole shock of the attack.

So now Zoro can conjure up temporary blackblades okay.

It's literally the same attack nothing would change lmao.
Zoro would counter it the same way.

Kaido used stronger boro breaths as the fight went on, why do you think this is the same attack?

Zoro wins

Give me the difficulty please.

 

[Cruxroux]

So now Zoro can conjure up temporary blackblades okay.

Spoiler

Kaido used stronger boro breaths as the fight went on, why do you think this is the same attack?

All of his Boro breath were strong lol.
Zoro would slice through all of them.

Give me the difficulty please.

High diff.
Luffy ain't pushing Zoro to Ashura or King of hell. That much Of AP is too much for Luffy.

 

[CbShadow]

ZORO ALMOST DIED AFTER BEATING KING...
Drunk Monster Kaido would demolish ""new peak Zoro"",
Flames Kaido would melt the shit of "New peak Zoro"

LISTEN, YOU F**CKIN ZORO GLAZER, Zoro just barely surpass Sanji

You're talking out of your ass.

Zoro almost died because of the mink medicine side effects. Not because of King. He beat King in a mid to low diff battle. He didn't use his KoH dragon style with his strongest attacks (3 billion worlds, death lion song, 1080p canon, flying dragon blaze, or asura mode attacks.)

King is harder to damage than Kaido and can withstand stronger attacks than Kaido. Yonko Luffy couldn't hurt a seraphim because of King's powers.

Kaido's flame mode would be unless against Zoro who can cut anything type of fire/flame. King tried to beat Zoro with his own magma like flame dragon attack and Zoro cut through it like it was nothing. Zoro would through Kaido's flame mode just as easily.

Rooftop Zoro was stronger than Luffy. He blocked a combo attack from 2 yonkos, scared 2 yonkos with his AP, bested Kaido and scarred Kaido. Zoro isn't barley above Sanji. Luffy and Zoro's strength are comparable and always have been.

 

[Fujishiro]

Vivre Cards stated their power is comparable. And I don't think they'd pull such info from nowhere.
It's possible but I would not bet on it tbh lol.
Another possible pattern is the swordsman pattern : Mihawk, Shiryu, Zoro and Shanks are stronger than the non swordsmen Buggy, BB, Luffy, Beck, so it's a W either way

Uses VC to say Bckman is comparable to Shanks.

At the same time ignores the VC and SBS statements saying Zoro and Luffy are at most equals.

Truly amazing.

 

[Dcbluffy]

High diff.
Luffy ain't pushing Zoro to Ashura or King of hell. That much Of AP is too much for Luffy.

you r being serious ? zoro won’t even land a hit

 

[Cruxroux]

you r being serious ? zoro won’t even land a hit

Zoro was tagging Kuma in pretime skip.

" Zoro won't land a hit "
He has barely ever missed with one or two attack here and there.