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#81
Kaidou was plain Knocked out my dude.
Show me where he was unconscious.

Being on the ground doesnt mean youre unconscious.

And then he got up later on and sneaked Oden.
He got up in the split second Oden turned around to see fake momo.


A fight between to Haki masters.
One with Stronger Haki wins lol.
Youre dodging the point does Mihawk have more endurance then Kaido yes or no.

He has will power. There's a reason why he called the strongest. Reigns above everyone.
World strongest swordsman, reigns above Swordsmen.

I can bet it now. Both Mihawk and Zoro are capable of fighting like monsters in a condition where luffy would have already passed out.

:milaugh:
All this and you still didnt answer my question lol.
Yall think you have something with that question while you don't.
Because it cannot be answered - because you cannot isolate Kaido's endurance.
It is heavily assisted by high recovery stat. And you will never know how good his endurance is alone.
Completely made up hes not an awakened zoan. Not once was this high recovery stated or pointed out but go off King.
 
#82
You are clowning yourself
Just answer does Mihawk have Better endurance than Kaido ?
Endurance - Definitely yes
Dutablity maybe no.


Same thing it did for Zoro, help him block most of the attack.
Stop the cope my dude. That shit barely dodged kaidou attacks , Hakai would reduce luffy to atom.


Moving goal posts are we.
Who started lol.

Or he mastered his ACoC better.
Didn't knew eating food masters haki now.

Whats this about rubber we are talking about punching, Garp also didnt blow holes into Kuzan and hes way less durable then Kaido.
Luffy uses rubber property 24 x 7 lol. With the science of Absorption and stretching, Stress. His punches are lethal to some degree as well.



What the actual hell are you talking about? The point is it did protect his fist from melting.
My dude something of equal caliber was used as counter attacks.

What did Zoro use as Counter attacks to block hakai? Or what could Luffy use as counter attack to block hakai?


Yes the proof is in the panel above.
My dude. That shit only allowed him to punch Magma without Touching it.
It didn't do things you claim to be. Stop being dumb.

I wasnt aware Kaido was defending himself with Haki, let alone barrier Haki
King defense > Kaidou defense > Haki defense or barrier Haki.
Or else what's the fuckin point of a dragon fruit genius.
Surpassing his scales was the most important task in wano.
 
#84
Show me where he was unconscious.

Being on the ground doesnt mean youre unconscious.
Omfg what does it mean to be unconscious then?

He got up in the split second Oden turned around to see fake momo.
Yea everything happened in split second.
Sure 👍🏼.
Meanwhile Kaidou - After fighting roger and shanks.
No one will be ever Like Oden.
Ptsd from Oden not from Shanks or roger or whitebeard.


Youre dodging the point does Mihawk have more endurance then Kaido yes or no.
Endurance yes , Durablity no.


World strongest swordsman, reigns above Swordsmen.
Which involves Shanks as well. And currently if he's stronger than 99% of the verse.
Mihawk automatically sits at top.


ll this and you still didnt answer my question lol.
I already did lol.
 
#85
Yall think you have something with that question while you don't.
Because it cannot be answered - because you cannot isolate Kaido's endurance.
It is heavily assisted by high recovery stat. And you will never know how good his endurance is alone.
High recovery increase your endurance
It's not even the issue he said Endurance = Willpower/Haki

BM for example doesn't have High recovery hence it's pure endurance

There is no way you believe Mihawk have Better endurance than BM lol
 
#86
Endurance - Definitely yes
Dutablity maybe no.
Lol, so you think Mihawk can go through the gauntlet Kaido did while also holding up an island that was draining him and do it better? Amazing,


Stop the cope my dude. That shit barely dodged kaidou attacks , Hakai would reduce luffy to atom.
What the fuck are you talking about, does Luffy know barrier Haki yes or no?

Who started lol.


Didn't knew eating food masters haki now.
It doesnt, hence why its just him getting better with ACoC after the first round, its something he did with every power up he got. If your assertion is that he did better because he ate food then youre being a clown right now.
Luffy uses rubber property 24 x 7 lol. With the science of Absorption and stretching, Stress. His punches are lethal to some degree as well.
They are still punches though.

My dude something of equal caliber was used as counter attacks.

What did Zoro use as Counter attacks to block hakai? Or what could Luffy use as counter attack to block hakai?
This isnt the point we are discussing you said he didnt protect himself from Kaidos Flaming Bagua and Ive shown you he did.

My dude. That shit only allowed him to punch Magma without Touching it.
It didn't do things you claim to be. Stop being dumb.
Kaido said if he punchs him he will melt his fist, so he used barrier haki to prevent that you cant be this fucking retarded.

King defense > Kaidou defense > Haki defense or barrier Haki.
You missed the point, again, you said if Zoro could cut through Kaido then he can through Luffys Haki those are two different things.

And if you think Kaido using haki to protect himself on top of his scales wouldnt be better then just using his scales then youre being a clown lol.
 
#87
High recovery increase your endurance
It's not even the issue he said Endurance = Willpower/Haki

BM for example doesn't have High recovery hence it's pure endurance

There is no way you believe Mihawk have Better endurance than BM lol
How does higher recovery rate increases your endurance lol.
Once you're KO. You're KO. Getting back up doesn't count get counted in the same round.

There is no way you believe Mihawk have Better endurance than BM lol
As I said.
Endurance - Yes
Durablity - no
 
#89
Omfg what does it mean to be unconscious then?
You think being on the ground is being unconscious? No wonder, now your posts make sense.

Yea everything happened in split second.
Sure 👍🏼.
Meanwhile Kaidou - After fighting roger and shanks.
No one will be ever Like Oden.
Ptsd from Oden not from Shanks or roger or whitebeard.
What, he had them all on the list of people that can fight him, fight by the way, not one shot him like you claim Oden did because we saw Kaido on the ground for like one panel and then up and clubbing Oden a page later.

Endurance yes , Durablity no.
The guy who is built around not getting hit and having the title of clairvoyant meaning his CoO is mastered to an extreme degree is also an endurance master? More so then Kaido? Lol okay.

Which involves Shanks as well. And currently if he's stronger than 99% of the verse.
Mihawk automatically sits at top.
Yeah I have him as top 1 right now, Im not like you who ignores others titles and also thinks Zoro is stronger then his captain when the Vivre card only ever had them as equals at most but go off King.
 
#90
How does higher recovery rate increases your endurance lol.
Once you're KO. You're KO. Getting back up doesn't count get counted in the same round.


As I said.
Endurance - Yes
Durablity - no
Because you recover mid battle like Kaido dis.after fighting scabbards
Si it increase what you can undergo before collapsing

This post was for nik not you
 
#91
Lol, so you think Mihawk can go through the gauntlet Kaido did while also holding up an island that was draining him and do it better? Amazing,
Are you a clown?
That's durablity he showcased.
Gauntlet?
Mihawk took care of 50 ships alone with minimal efforts.

Rooftop 5 would be killed by Mihawk , Solo 1v1 against yamato and luffy after that and they would die too.


What the fuck are you talking about, does Luffy know barrier Haki yes or no?

Who started lol.
Lmao , Barrier haki let's you touch the opponejt without Touching them.it doesn't stop the attack completely.
:nicagesmile:


It doesnt, hence why its just him getting better with ACoC after the first round, its something he did with every power up he got. If your assertion is that he did better because he ate food then youre being a clown right now.
Rest of the power ups were Honed in the battle itself. But no sky split then now after eating food he splits sky. Sure lmao.


This isnt the point we are discussing you said he didnt protect himself from Kaidos Flaming Bagua and Ive shown you he did.
Omg dude.
Fine answer my this question.
Luffy only uses barrier Haki no attack and Kaidou uses Blazing Bagua does luffy survive or not.


You missed the point, again, you said if Zoro could cut through Kaido then he can through Luffys Haki those are two different things.
It isn't.
Kaidou defense > Luffy defense.
If Zoro cuts kaidou. He should be cutting Luffy too.
Lmao
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You think being on the ground is being unconscious? No wonder, now your posts make sense.
What, he had them all on the list of people that can fight him, fight by the way, not one shot him like you claim Oden did because we saw Kaido on the ground for like one panel and then up and clubbing Oden a page later.
You don't get ptsd from people who can fight you lmao.
:nicagesmile:



The guy who is built around not getting hit and having the title of clairvoyant meaning his CoO is mastered to an extreme degree is also an endurance master? More so then Kaido? Lol okay.
We will see lmao.
:brootea:
You're settung yourself up for disappointment lol.

Yeah I have him as top 1 right now, Im not like you who ignores others titles and also thinks Zoro is stronger then his captain when the Vivre card only ever had them as equals at most but go off King.
Vivre card either isn't canon.
It's can he used to confirm things in manga , not the other way around lol.
 
#92
Right, right...
And which stat has taken care of open wound from Demon God? :ihaha:
I knew you would mention that but he still has it, the blood dried up and it left a scar. Zoro wounded him at the begining of the fight and the raid lasted an entire night. Its nowhere close to what you claimed which is high recovery and thats the realm awakened zoans. He wasnt awakened.

So anyways Nik do you believe Mihawk the guy who has 0 wound and is built on blocking and dodging with his insane CoO is more endurant then Kaido?
 
#93
So anyways Nik do you believe Mihawk the guy who has 0 wound and is built on blocking and dodging with his insane CoO is more endurant then Kaido?
Kaidou is durable you fuckin idiots.
Even zoro surpases Kaidou in Endurance.

Durablity - the quality of being able to last a long time without becoming damaged

Endurance - the ability to continue doing something painful or difficult for a long period of time without complaining.
 
#94
Are you a clown?
That's durablity he showcased.
Durability is him being pierced left and right? And he showed durability when holding an island? Taking so man ACoC hits and wounds?

You are aware that his durability was made nonextistent the moment the raid started right? They were wounding him since the raid started. But not enough.

Gauntlet?
Mihawk took care of 50 ships alone with minimal efforts.
I didnt know they landed hits on Mihawk and fought him lol.

God did I just waste my time talking to a retard.

You don't get ptsd from people who can fight you lmao.
:nicagesmile:
What did Kaido say when he mentioned his top 5 Cruxroux 3.0.
 

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#95
High recovery increase your endurance
It's not even the issue he said Endurance = Willpower/Haki

BM for example doesn't have High recovery hence it's pure endurance

There is no way you believe Mihawk have Better endurance than BM lol
Yes, it increases endurance but those are two different stats.
And you cannot ask if Kaido's endurance is better than Mihawk's, at least not like that.
What you are actually asking is - are Kaido's recovery+endurance better than Mihawk's endurance alone...

Endurance is indeed determined by willpower.
Willpower doesn't affect active recovery, only might affect the passive.
Actually, BM has huge recovery stat, at least while she has souls to spend.

Once I explain this in detail, you might believe Mihawk's endurance>Big Mom's endurance...
What you are looking at is this - damage accumulation. And damage accumulation is affected by several factors.
And one particularly stands out and it is recovery.

That's why people with high recovery and regenerations look like kings of endurance because they take countless damage and keep going. But that doesn't mean their endurance is best or better than endurance of someone else who cannot take as much damage because they lack recovery/regen...

I knew you would mention that but he still has it, the blood dried up and it left a scar. Zoro wounded him at the begining of the fight and the raid lasted an entire night. Its nowhere close to what you claimed which is high recovery and thats the realm awakened zoans. He wasnt awakened.

So anyways Nik do you believe Mihawk the guy who has 0 wound and is built on blocking and dodging with his insane CoO is more endurant then Kaido?
Wrong.
Without recovery stat, Kaido would be another Hody Jones.
Suffering from Zoro's wound the whole time.

Regarding Mihawk vs Kaido in endurance, read above what I explained to m944.
 
#96
Kaidou is durable you fuckin idiots.
Even zoro surpases Kaidou in Endurance.

Durablity - the quality of being able to last a long time without becoming damaged

Endurance - the ability to continue doing something painful or difficult for a long period of time without complaining.
If we are idiots then you are something else.

Kaido was getting damaged since the raid started, by fucking Kiku of all people you dumbass. Like shut the fuck up holy shit.
 
#97
Durability is him being pierced left and right? And he showed durability when holding an island? Taking so man ACoC hits and wounds?

You are aware that his durability was made nonextistent the moment the raid started right? They were wounding him since the raid started. But not enough.
Yes and nothing Worked Bar adcoc on him.
That's durablity you fuckin clown.
Durablity - the quality of being able to last a long time without becoming damaged.

Kaidou had no problem Dealing anyone.
Only G5 was actual difficult stuff for him. To which he was already exhausted.


I didnt know they landed hits on Mihawk and fought him lol.

God did I just waste my time talking to a retard.
Bro running out of cope lmao.


What did Kaido say when he mentioned his top 5 Cruxroux 3.0
How many of them gave Kaidou PTSD.
 
#98
Yes, it increases endurance but those are two different stats.
And you cannot ask if Kaido's endurance is better than Mihawk's, at least not like that.
What you are actually asking is - are Kaido's recovery+endurance better than Mihawk's endurance alone...

Endurance is indeed determined by willpower.
Willpower doesn't affect active recovery, only might affect the passive.
Actually, BM has huge recovery stat, at least while she has souls to spend.

Once I explain this in detail, you might believe Mihawk's endurance>Big Mom's endurance...
What you are looking at is this - damage accumulation. And damage accumulation is affected by several factors.
And one particularly stands out and it is recovery.

That's why people with high recovery and regenerations look like kings of endurance because they take countless damage and keep going. But that doesn't mean their endurance is best or better than endurance of someone else who cannot take as much damage because they lack recovery/regen...


Wrong.
Without recovery stat, Kaido would be another Hody Jones.
Suffering from Zoro's wound the whole time.

Regarding Mihawk vs Kaido in endurance, read above what I explain to m944.
Im not going to bother with the Hody Jones comparison just answer this.

Can Mihawk take as much damage as Kaido did and keep going, yes or no.
 
#99
If we are idiots then you are something else.

Kaido was getting damaged since the raid started, by fucking Kiku of all people you dumbass. Like shut the fuck up holy shit.
Lmao and that accoounted for nothing.
He was scratchless when Rooftop 5 came.learn to read lmao.

You running away from my question lol
 
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