Who did More to capture Garp?


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They still think zoro has better haki than luffy
You’re arguing with a wall

Hell katakuri has shown the best haki skill within the commanders and they still think king has better haki. Wouldn’t surprise me if they think shiryu will have better haki than Kuzan and the admirals
If anything this shows again how badly Oda has messed with haki, especially since the timeskip.
 
Not the same exchanging few puches with retired 78 years old marine can't be used as proof twerkbull achieving what so many great swordsman failed to do who unlike him had no other df abilities. That bum is never joining Mihawk and Ryuma that spot is being saved for marimo.
Clearly it can. Aokiji used his fruit only in his initial intro and it wasn't his main fighting style, that's used when he's fighting someone that's a threat to him. Same for GB and we don't need to guess what his style is, he carries a blade.

Also this
Didn’t the Zoro fandom argue for literal years that Kizaru was a top tier swordsman despite his introduction being a kick and hyping his fruit
You all said Kizaru was a swordsman because it helped the sword agenda but even though Aramaki carries a Blade he supposedly isn't one.
 
If anything this shows again how badly Oda has messed with haki, especially since the timeskip.
Idk oda made it pretty clear how good and rare luffy and Katakuri’s haki mastery is

Even kizaru’s haki skill with his barrier haki defense has been highlighted and I’m sure the other admirals have extremely good haki. Even if they don’t get the most advanced forms

In general I feel like oda is good or at worst decent at highlighting when a character is skilled in a specific form of haki. At the same time he’s not that good at explaining haki in of itself lol
 
Not gonna lie I didn’t even know King had Haki at all until Z fans pointed out that he hardened his blade for one panel lmfao. King legit broke these clowns. Mid ass feats and joke portrayal for a YC1.
But you notice all of Zoro bruises if it doesn't serve your agenda it makes sense you would gloss over it

King doesn't even need his haki or sword for that fagile mochi he sleep diffs
 
Clearly it can. Aokiji used his fruit only in his initial intro and it wasn't his main fighting style, that's used when he's fighting someone that's a threat to him. Same for GB and we don't need to guess what his style is, he carries a blade.

Also this

You all said Kizaru was a swordsman because it helped the sword agenda but even though Aramaki carries a Blade he supposedly isn't one.
Why would we argue Aramaki isn't a swordsman
Him being a swordsman literally automatically puts him below Mihawk
Would help the agenda actually
 
You all said Kizaru was a swordsman because it helped the sword agenda but even though Aramaki carries a Blade he supposedly isn't one.
They think Cabaji is a swordsman, but somehow a character based on a character known for exceptionally good swordskill isn't a swordsman.

They are just hung up on the idea that you need peak CoC for a black blade when it's probably just peak CoA used through great swordskill.
 
Idk oda made it pretty clear how good and rare luffy and Katakuri’s haki mastery is

Even kizaru’s haki skill with his barrier haki defense has been highlighted and I’m sure the other admirals have extremely good haki. Even if they don’t get the most advanced forms

In general I feel like oda is good or at worst decent at highlighting when a character is skilled in a specific form of haki. At the same time he’s not that good at explaining haki in of itself lol
I mean so many times a character having haki should have been able of foreseeing an attack, or to detect the presence of others, or to defend himself/herself against attacks.

Haki is inconsistent as fuck.
 
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