I mean you can call it a genocide, I personally think a warzone isn’t one or else we would call all of WW2 one. But to act like it’s a settled matter is what I have a problem with
I think it depends on whether or not civilians died while Hamas was being targeted vs if civilians themselves were the targets.

I think there are definitely people in Israel who want to eradicate the Palestinians. Whether that’s how the campaign was actually conducted? I don’t know the answer to that.
 
If you think it's not settle, then you have missed the information about the 40000 thousand Palestinians dead and the probably 100x time more injured.
So Genocide is when a lot of people die? Are we making our own definitions now?


Making societies less violent are centuries of work. I followed some courses about that for the case of France.

It's centuries of work from the State to make society less violent.
Unlike what people think it's not even a matter of education.
People are sometimes massively dangerous.

I don't think that banning guns would be enough for the US.




This would be difficult to argue that something is a genocide on your very own. Massacres in Gaza being classified as a genocide is far from being a mere individual or even popular belief.

Also isn't there a warrant against Netanyahu ?
Yea, it’s almost as if extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
 

Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
Making societies less violent are centuries of work. I followed some courses about that for the case of France.

It's centuries of work from the State to make society less violent.
Unlike what people think it's not even a matter of education.
People are sometimes massively dangerous.

I don't think that banning guns would be enough for the US.




This would be difficult to argue that something is a genocide on your very own. Massacres in Gaza being classified as a genocide is far from being a mere individual or even popular belief.

Also isn't there a warrant against Netanyahu ?
Banning guns won't solve a thing. It's culture. There's less gun violence in the red open carry states than there are in the blue gun controlled states. However, the blue cities have denser population, higher homeless rates and higher prices which are factors.

Since 1999, gun violence has decreased by 40% but gun COVERAGE in the news has increased 800% thanks to the Columbine Shooting. People are simply more exposed to gun violence now.
 
Say the guy who just told an handicaped man that he needs to be humble because he doesn't contribute to society and his helped by society... therefore he can't really express loud opinions.

:willight:


Nah don't worry I'm not triggered. I'm just putting things in caps and bold so that it makes more impact.

It's all about the show

:BigW:
Lmao. Allow me to elucidate the concept of humility in this context: to show humility in your situation is to show appreciation for people like Van who actually do a valuable public service instead of shitting on them. I have no problem with society assisting individuals who cannot work, it's part of many governance systems in Europe.

What I have an issue with is a person who will twist every comment, jab at every person who disagrees, all the while playing the victim because he has a mental illness. My friend is incredibly grateful to a society that supports him - meanwhile you spit proverbial venom all day, venom that is disguised as kindness.

My issue with you is not that you have a condition. My issue with you is that you use that condition as a smokescreen to protect yourself. You act entitled. You should be grateful to people like Van who perform vital services. You should be grateful to a society that props you up and supports you. Instead you mock those people. It's sick.

I've never seen you concede a single point, talk empathetically with someone about their struggles even if you do not understand, try to understand other people's points of view. Instead you attack them. You deride them. You, quite frankly, try to dehumanise them.

If you felt any level of offense at how I spoke to you before (and surely you did, by your diatribe), then you might actually have a golden opportunity here. Instead of your so-called righteous indignation (which no doubt stems from your ego being stung), try to think about how what YOU say impacts others. Not just: "Oh, they're wrong so their anger is injust," but seriously try to see how your needling can impact other people.

I know what I said was harsh. But I think you deserved it.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Banning guns won't solve a thing. It's culture. There's less gun violence in the red open carry states than there are in the blue gun controlled states. However, the blue cities have denser population, higher homeless rates and higher prices which are factors.

Since 1999, gun violence has decreased by 40% but gun COVERAGE in the news has increased 800% thanks to the Columbine Shooting. People are simply more exposed to gun violence now.
Thanks officer Van
 
I think it depends on whether or not civilians died while Hamas was being targeted vs if civilians themselves were the targets.

I think there are definitely people in Israel who want to eradicate the Palestinians. Whether that’s how the campaign was actually conducted? I don’t know the answer to that.
Yeah, the crime of genocide relies heavily on the intent of the accused party
 
Banning guns won't solve a thing. It's culture. There's less gun violence in the red open carry states than there are in the blue gun controlled states. However, the blue cities have denser population, higher homeless rates and higher prices which are factors.

Since 1999, gun violence has decreased by 40% but gun COVERAGE in the news has increased 800% thanks to the Columbine Shooting. People are simply more exposed to gun violence now.
Ban rap music.
 
Making societies less violent are centuries of work. I followed some courses about that for the case of France.

It's centuries of work from the State to make society less violent.
Unlike what people think it's not even a matter of education.
People are sometimes massively dangerous.

I don't think that banning guns would be enough for the US.




This would be difficult to argue that something is a genocide on your very own. Massacres in Gaza being classified as a genocide is far from being a mere individual or even popular belief.

Also isn't there a warrant against Netanyahu ?
Rio de Janeiro started becoming a shit hole around 54 years ago. It was due to state negligence in dealing with organized crime.
 
Banning guns won't solve a thing. It's culture. There's less gun violence in the red open carry states than there are in the blue gun controlled states. However, the blue cities have denser population, higher homeless rates and higher prices which are factors.

Since 1999, gun violence has decreased by 40% but gun COVERAGE in the news has increased 800% thanks to the Columbine Shooting. People are simply more exposed to gun violence now.
There's also FAR less gun violence in European countries with relaxed gun laws. It's not guns that kill people&being armed is normal human behavior. Banning the right to self defense is what dictatorships and imperial rulers do.
 
I think it depends on whether or not civilians died while Hamas was being targeted vs if civilians themselves were the targets.

I think there are definitely people in Israel who want to eradicate the Palestinians. Whether that’s how the campaign was actually conducted? I don’t know the answer to that.
Israeli army bombed a camp of refugee of hundreds to kill one member of Hamas who was supposedly under the camp in a tunnel. Wether that mofo was underground or not is irrelevant given the number of humans they're ready to kill for one man.

Modern definitions of genocide have greatly evolved with how massacres are done due to the air-force, missiles and "civilian-shields" (and more). As for the intent it's shown on Israeli live tv by their officials.

The debate around airstrikes has increased since the Obama years with the new gen of drones and even before. Is it a massacre ? It has often been portrayed as a far-lefty opinion but now that the scale is bigger it's interesting to ask ourselves wtf we're even doing with all these weapons.
 
I was talking in general

everything ain't about you fam
I know. I took the blow on purpose.


So Genocide is when a lot of people die? Are we making our own definitions now?
No. It's when there is an intent to make a lot of people die. And we know there is a political intent.


Banning guns won't solve a thing. It's culture.
Of course it will. It will at least prevent a lot of violences (Leftist Library):

- [ARTICLE AND STUDIES] - Yes ! Gun controls do in fact have a positive effect on gun violences !
- [DEBUNK] - Myths about Gun violences debunked
- [SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS] - Scientists agree: Guns don't make society safer
- [VIDEO] - Police should not respond to mental health calls
- [VIDEO] - We need to reform the police (and not only in the US) - Last Week with John Oliver


Allow me to elucidate the concept of humility in this context: to show humility in your situation is to show appreciation for people like Van who actually do a valuable public service instead of shitting on them.
Sorry, the Police is one of my political ennemy. Don't expect me to say good thing about it.


What I have an issue with is a person who will twist every comment, jab at every person who disagrees, all the while playing the victim because he has a mental illness.
You are the ones who keep bringing up my situation and personal life in the mix to attack me. If you can take the heat, don't bring the heat.

I'm defending myself here. If you want, I can start to do the same with you, but really, you won't like that. I don't think you understand that I'm being VERY KIND not to retaliate on your rethoric guys. I could say a LOT of things that could be very mean. So don't push me and stop attacking people on their personnal lives or experience.


My friend is incredibly grateful to a society that supports him - meanwhile you spit proverbial venom all day, venom that is disguised as kindness.
What I get is a RIGHT people fought to get. It's toward THEM that I'm grateful, I should be grateful to NO ONE ELSE.


My issue with you is not that you have a condition.
Then don't bring it.


My issue with you is that you use that condition as a smokescreen to protect yourself. You act entitled.
Another lie ?


You should be grateful to people like Van who perform vital services.
No I should not.


Instead you mock those people. It's sick.
I'm mocking no one mate here. You do.

I've never seen you concede a single point
That's because you don't read what I actually say. I've concede more in this thread alone to people that the majority of you guys in this entire forum.

Pay more attention to what I say, you might get surprised.

talk empathetically with someone about their struggles
Again. You pay 0 attention to what I say. In fact, you don't even remember that I was empathic to your own situation once.

Really, pay attention.

If you felt any level of offense at how I spoke to you before (and surely you did, by your diatribe), then you might actually have a golden opportunity here. Instead of your so-called righteous indignation (which no doubt stems from your ego being stung), try to think about how what YOU say impacts others. Not just: "Oh, they're wrong so their anger is injust," but seriously try to see how your needling can impact other people.

I know what I said was harsh. But I think you deserved it.
What you said was not harsh, it's was false.

You are confusing political opinion with your own personal situations. You are confusing my strenght of defense against bigotry as a dehumanization process.

I understand you, but you do not understand me. You will never be able to understand me with this belief system.

I know how mean, hurtfull and destroying I can become when I really want to hurt someone's feeling. Trust me, you do NOT want me to attack on the personal. So please, refrain yourself from doing that.


It is. Our nature created these structures. We live in the nest era ever, at least the concept of human rights exists. In history, gencode was completely normal and nobody cared.
No. That's not how human society work.

The MATERIAL conditions have pushed us to create those structure. Our beliefs, our systems, it's the result of material condition > Hence why we talk about "materialism".

When you are poor, your are not more likely to go toward crime because it's our nature, you will go there because the material conditions will push you to go toward crime.

The material condition are the reason why some are rich and some are pure. They are the reasons why people are oppressed are others are not.

To get a better society, we need to improve the material conditions and thus improve the structure that shape society.

This is why I ended up creating a thread asking you guys to act on the STRUCTURE of the forum and stopped reporting people. Because by changing the material structure of society, we change the behaviors.

This is a scientific fact.


There's also FAR less gun violence in European countries with relaxed gun laws.
There are also far less reason to do crimes. Bad analogy.
 
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