Yes I exclude christianity as I exclude every religion and atheism. Don't bother talking about the West when what you're talking about is the catholic church.
Lets just agree to disagree.
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Only the west. Eastern Europe is a different story.
Lets see how this will play out in the future.
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No I meant the Cucktolic Church
I was banned for a harmless joke in the past. I'm being respectful here. I expect equal treatment.
 
and Italy right?

The better your material conditions are, the more you'll see how your people move away from religion.
Bro what material conditions, Italy is emptying out, nowadays they pay foreigners who are willing to buy abandoned properties in the countryside. Also Italy belongs to the wester part. (But then on the other hand you have the Vatican that still seems to run child trafficking endeavors with backing from Italy's government so idk man)
Lets just agree to disagree.
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Lets see how this will play out in the future.
 
Bro what material conditions, Italy is emptying out, nowadays they pay foreigners who are willing to buy abandoned properties in the countryside. Also Italy belongs to the wester part. (But then on the other hand you have the Vatican that still seems to run child trafficking endeavors with backing from Italy's government so idk man)
What I meant is that Italy is the exception in western Europe when it comes to religion. Eastern Europe is significantly poorer than the west so they tend to be more religious.
 
it gives me hope when I see how 40% of the population is atheist in countries like Spain. It is undeniable that Europe (with a few exceptions) is moving away from organized religion.
I met plenty of religious people who basically don't care about their religion.

Which sounds like a contradictory statement.

But polls show for instance that those who identify as Christians do no specifically believe in an almighty God or even a life after death.

What I meant is that Italy is the exception in western Europe when it comes to religion. Eastern Europe is significantly poorer than the west so they tend to be more religious.
I'd be interested to read about why Eastern Europe remained religious despite the decades of Communist power.

But richer doesn't mean less religious btw. Turkey has a fairly important middle-class and they remain very much muslim.

religion played a big part in what we consider "the west"
Yes playED.
 
I'd be interested to read about why Eastern Europe remained religious despite the decades of Communist power.

But richer doesn't mean less religious btw. Turkey has a fairly important middle-class and they remain very much muslim.
Simply because governments have nothing to do (usually nowadays) with popular culture. Communist regimes IMPOSED atheism.
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I'd be interested to read about why Eastern Europe remained religious despite the decades of Communist power.

But richer doesn't mean less religious btw. Turkey has a fairly important middle-class and they remain very much muslim.
*Cough*Saudi Arabia*Cough*
 
No I meant the Cucktolic Church
Cope more heathen.
Bro what material conditions, Italy is emptying out, nowadays they pay foreigners who are willing to buy abandoned properties in the countryside. Also Italy belongs to the wester part. (But then on the other hand you have the Vatican that still seems to run child trafficking endeavors with backing from Italy's government so idk man)
Another heathen spotted.
 
I'd be interested to read about why Eastern Europe remained religious despite the decades of Communist power.

But richer doesn't mean less religious btw. Turkey has a fairly important middle-class and they remain very much muslim.
That's not a bad example. Still you got countries in Europe, China, and Japan who've become less and less religious as they got richer and richer.

There is at the very least, a correlation.
 
I used to be a history bookworm. Religious history is somewhat interesting to me especially its connection with politics. But I never understood the difference between a canon and a monk ...
Bill Gates told me this:
Why are priests called canon?
Originally, a canon was a cleric who lived in the precinct of the cathedral. The word meant a priest who was under (ruled by) a bishop. In the Anglican church, some canons are laypersons (not ordained). The title is also given to some senior or retired priests as an honorary title.
 
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