Powers & Abilities Luffy could damage steel before Zoro could cut iron
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Luffy back in the east blue was able to dent and destroy Don kriegs wootz steel armor with enough attacks
He also is shown breaking through some Franky Family’s steel armor
As for Mr. 3’s armor first off it’s harder than iron not steel that’s just a mistranslation but second off density definitely matters and it took luffy a bunch of concentrated attacks to destroy steel. It wasn’t at all a casual feat f
Zoro not being able to cut iron was a big deal pre alabasta. It was only after daz that he could cut iron such as the iron cloud, iron body, iron cannonballs, etc.
Daz himself being made of iron
It also says iron here too
We also have 2 clear cut cases of zoro outright saying he can cut iron but not steel
Sanji refers to them as being made of some type of steel. With zoro on top of that emphasizing that he can’t cut them because they’re tougher than iron
Tho tbf while Zoro couldn’t straight up cut steel pre timeskip with his so he should definitely be able to dent/damage it and he did
Chopper in arm and monster point also might’ve been able to dent iron and even steel along with the monster trio pre timeskip. The chopper fact isn’t really relevant I just think it’s funny and cool for him lol
Post timeskip the monster trio have all grown strong enough to all casually deal with steel
Another tbf to both luffy and zoro
Zoro vs iron
Luffy vs iron. Idk how they managed to mistranslate it to strel
Last point and slightly off topic Lucci wank. Man casually did something even fuckin zoro couldn’t which is insane. Lucci was a monster
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He also is shown breaking through some Franky Family’s steel armor
As for Mr. 3’s armor first off it’s harder than iron not steel that’s just a mistranslation but second off density definitely matters and it took luffy a bunch of concentrated attacks to destroy steel. It wasn’t at all a casual feat f
Zoro not being able to cut iron was a big deal pre alabasta. It was only after daz that he could cut iron such as the iron cloud, iron body, iron cannonballs, etc.
Daz himself being made of iron
It also says iron here too
We also have 2 clear cut cases of zoro outright saying he can cut iron but not steel
Sanji refers to them as being made of some type of steel. With zoro on top of that emphasizing that he can’t cut them because they’re tougher than iron
Tho tbf while Zoro couldn’t straight up cut steel pre timeskip with his so he should definitely be able to dent/damage it and he did
Chopper in arm and monster point also might’ve been able to dent iron and even steel along with the monster trio pre timeskip. The chopper fact isn’t really relevant I just think it’s funny and cool for him lol
Post timeskip the monster trio have all grown strong enough to all casually deal with steel
Another tbf to both luffy and zoro
- Blunt damage is a lot more effective than cutting when it’s something zoro can't cut. Like pre alabasta luffy having to an easier time denting it while zoro couldn’t yet cut it
- When zoro can cut something it’s going to be a lot easier and more effective for him to get past it than luffy. Again with iron post timeskip zoro can cut through iron like it’s butter. While iron isn’t a big deal at all for post skip he dents it instead
Zoro vs iron
Luffy vs iron. Idk how they managed to mistranslate it to strel
Last point and slightly off topic Lucci wank. Man casually did something even fuckin zoro couldn’t which is insane. Lucci was a monster
@ZenZu
Daz Bones is not iron lol.
He's steel and Probably the strongest kond out there.
Don Krieg armour was steel as well. But Daz Bonez Is DF user ,
Iron + Carbon = Steel.
Amount of Carbon makes it stronger , We have no fuckin clue of which steel was stronger.
And those Canon's are iron is a cope lmao.
You can't make things out of pure iron lol , iron at purest form is soft in room temperature.
You have to make it steel with mixing of Carbon.
He's steel and Probably the strongest kond out there.
Don Krieg armour was steel as well. But Daz Bonez Is DF user ,
Iron + Carbon = Steel.
Amount of Carbon makes it stronger , We have no fuckin clue of which steel was stronger.
And those Canon's are iron is a cope lmao.
You can't make things out of pure iron lol , iron at purest form is soft in room temperature.
You have to make it steel with mixing of Carbon.
The manga repeatedly says and highlights him being made of “iron” man it’s a skill issue I guess
Also remember luffy could dent steel back in the east blue but wasn’t denting franky or the px4. It really could be as simple as its because they’re humans
A “skill” issue for luffy too lol
His swan beak shoes are actually made of “steel” not iron so I imagine so
Also remember luffy could dent steel back in the east blue but wasn’t denting franky or the px4. It really could be as simple as its because they’re humans
A “skill” issue for luffy too lol
A better question is if bon clay could kick through steel as his kicks are like a high caliber rifle round. Which are strong enough to punch straight through solid steel several inches thick. This would explain his confidence when fighting with Daz
Nah buddy luffy was breaking steel now its about skill?
Way weaker bazooka breaks steel
Way stronger bazooka matches zoro s oni giri who couldnt dent daz iron
Way weaker oni giri breaks 600kg swords also
Zoro s durable swords piercing moves couldnt even dent daz
But them lame ass shoes can
Cant make this up
Way weaker bazooka breaks steel
Way stronger bazooka matches zoro s oni giri who couldnt dent daz iron
Way weaker oni giri breaks 600kg swords also
Zoro s durable swords piercing moves couldnt even dent daz
But them lame ass shoes can
Cant make this up
They did.
Zoro + Hachi shattered them with a combination of their named attacks.
Zoro is too weak to cut even iron, he states it against Daz Bonez
That's the sheer difference between East Blue Luffy and Grand Line Zoro, one can demolish super steel with his bare hands, but Zoro can't even cut iron with magic swords...
Zoro + Hachi shattered them with a combination of their named attacks.
Zoro is too weak to cut even iron, he states it against Daz Bonez
That's the sheer difference between East Blue Luffy and Grand Line Zoro, one can demolish super steel with his bare hands, but Zoro can't even cut iron with magic swords...
Breaking a layer of steel or swords is easy for them 2, but cutting it is more difficult. And the size and thickness that MR1 had, but as always, you are idiots and wanting to go against Zoro leaves you without arguments, just as Nik did with the image of Zoro breaking the swords, which now turns out to be due to the force of Zoro and Hachi xd
Nah buddy luffy was breaking steel now its about skill?
Way weaker bazooka breaks steel
Way stronger bazooka matches zoro s oni giri who couldnt dent daz iron
Way weaker oni giri breaks 600kg swords also
Zoro s durable swords piercing moves couldnt even dent daz
But them lame ass shoes can
Cant make this up
Way weaker bazooka breaks steel
Way stronger bazooka matches zoro s oni giri who couldnt dent daz iron
Way weaker oni giri breaks 600kg swords also
Zoro s durable swords piercing moves couldnt even dent daz
But them lame ass shoes can
Cant make this up
You keep mentioning the weight of the swords when we don’t know what it’s made of but we do know east blue zoro couldn’t cut iron at that point
slashing and piercing are not the same
Man zoro himself says he couldn’t cut iron pre alabasta and couldn’t cut steel pre timeskip. If you upset about it argue with him
I just think that they were made of lower quality iron. We can also see Arlong in Chapter #90 breaking one sword that Luffy picks to show off his bad swordsmanship, but I doubt that Arlong has a CoA... his nose swipe and his shark bite are just strong enough to break second-rate iron (as was Zoro's Oni Giri). It's the same for durability techiniques like tekkai: Franky, for example, could damage Fukurou pretty well, but couldn't even tickle Rob Lucci back in Enies Lobby.
What a load of bunk.
It is irrelevant how confident Bon was in fighting Daz. He does not have a single move that could actually damage him. Maybe even to this day Bon is unable to even put a scratch on Daz.
Its orders of magnitude harder to destroy an anvil than it is to puncture a can. Both made of steel.
Kriegs armor is a piss poor joke compared to Daz' solid steel body.
I believe that Luffy was involuntarily using haki at the end of his fight with Crocodile making him able to beat him without using water and the stuff about his blood was just Croc trying to find an explanation on why he now could be hit.
So there is a case to be made that Luffy could have beated Daz in Alabasta too. Just not for the reasons you mentioned.
It is irrelevant how confident Bon was in fighting Daz. He does not have a single move that could actually damage him. Maybe even to this day Bon is unable to even put a scratch on Daz.
Its orders of magnitude harder to destroy an anvil than it is to puncture a can. Both made of steel.
Kriegs armor is a piss poor joke compared to Daz' solid steel body.
I believe that Luffy was involuntarily using haki at the end of his fight with Crocodile making him able to beat him without using water and the stuff about his blood was just Croc trying to find an explanation on why he now could be hit.
So there is a case to be made that Luffy could have beated Daz in Alabasta too. Just not for the reasons you mentioned.
Oh so you're delusional and ignore the story. Thanks for the clarification.
Luffy didn't use haki vs crocodile and bon clays special shoe weapons that he added mid fight with sanji are canonically stated to be more powerful and precise than a large caliber rifle. Rifles can punch straight through steel several inches thick
Bon clays confidence is only the supporting evidence. Not the main piece of evidence.
Maybe address the argument instead of being a know it all loser?
Luffy didn't use haki vs crocodile and bon clays special shoe weapons that he added mid fight with sanji are canonically stated to be more powerful and precise than a large caliber rifle. Rifles can punch straight through steel several inches thick
Bon clays confidence is only the supporting evidence. Not the main piece of evidence.
Maybe address the argument instead of being a know it all loser?
Iron body not steel
But yeah they could obviously damage iron easier with their stronger attacks. Tbf it’s the same with zoro back then. While he could obviously cut iron after beating daz he still needed his stronger attacks to do so easier. Examples being like against ohms iron cloud and kaku’s iron body
Tho honestly you could probably argue that kaku is tougher than even daz due to his overall strength level and how it seems to effect tekai
In luffy’s case he’s still proven to be able of breaking steel both in the east blue and paradise pre gears before zoro was capable of cutting it. Cause he’s him
But yeah they could obviously damage iron easier with their stronger attacks. Tbf it’s the same with zoro back then. While he could obviously cut iron after beating daz he still needed his stronger attacks to do so easier. Examples being like against ohms iron cloud and kaku’s iron body
Tho honestly you could probably argue that kaku is tougher than even daz due to his overall strength level and how it seems to effect tekai
In luffy’s case he’s still proven to be able of breaking steel both in the east blue and paradise pre gears before zoro was capable of cutting it. Cause he’s him
