News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

This is a fan translation btw. Pretty sure swordusers = swordsmen in general just different ways of translating

But the "even more than Shanks" part is probably legit :milaugh:
I don't know if it's this card or another one but a "real OP fan" youtuber asked a Japanese friend to translate one of Mihawk's cards and then posted it on twitter and it was something like Mihawk is invincible with no rivals type of shit. :kobeha:
 
The Kizaru VC will also bury the Kuzan VC
I'm not personally interested in such debate, I know both are invincible forces and would tear each other for days on end
There seems to be some spice with the Kuzan VC from what I heard

What about Sakazuki, do you think he has a much bigger chance to be top 1 alive top tier at least
Not that I ever thought otherwise, in my books Akainu always had that top 1 aura
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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What about Sakazuki, do you think he has a much bigger chance to be top 1 alive top tier at least
I'll always keep Blackbeard as the strongest active top tier after Kaido, potentially stronger than Kaido by the time he fights Luffy. That's just how I read the narrative going.

But Akainu's either right behind him or near equal with him, IMO. Oda would need to dunk on him hard for me to change my opinion.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
I'm not personally interested in such debate, I know both are invincible forces and would tear each other for days on end
There seems to be some spice with the Kuzan VC from what I heard

What about Sakazuki, do you think he has a much bigger chance to be top 1 alive top tier at least
Not that I ever thought otherwise, in my books Akainu always had that top 1 aura
Akainu has the best argument for top 1 among any current One Piece character, between hype, status, feats, portrayal, and relevancy. He has the healthiest mix of everything.

However, ability wise, Oda created an unbeatable character in Kizaru, no one is beating a bloodlusted Kizaru other than someone with very specific counters. Not sure if it was intentional though, but it is what it is.
 
I'll always keep Blackbeard as the strongest active top tier after Kaido, potentially stronger than Kaido by the time he fights Luffy. That's just how I read the narrative going.

But Akainu's either right behind him or near equal with him, IMO. Oda would need to dunk on him hard for me to change my opinion.
Blackbeard is understandable, I think he needs more experience but eventually sure
Dragon is also in that realm I think. Other than that I don't see it
 
Akainu has the best argument for top 1 among any current One Piece character, between hype, status, feats, and portrayal. He has the healthiest mix of everything.

However, ability wise, Oda created an unbeatable character in Kizaru, no one is beating a bloodlusted Kizaru other than someone with very specific counters. Not sure if it was intentional though, but it is what it is.
Kizaru’s speed is just utterly broken. And tbh hard to write.

Perception blitzing a gorosei and half a yonko crew while rattled is crazy.

If Kizaru wants he can never loose any fight just by zooming away.
 
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