General & Others Vivre card confirms Kizaru mental nerf

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#23
Pretty much every critic of Kizaru got turned around and slapped them in the face.

Still, I don't think this reflects negatively at Luffy, his level was established at Wano and his timelimit is exacerbated by Kizaru's speed.

I reckon Kizaru would have more trouble with Kaido, match-up wise.
No doubt, this doesn't change how I view Luffy against Wano characters at all. He already cemented himself there.

I'm talking about how any perceived pro Luffy feat on Egghead became completely invalid. He was playing to nerfed Kizaru's tune the entire time, and still reached the state of complete exhaustion. It's insane.
 
#25
No doubt, this doesn't change how I view Luffy against Wano characters at all. He already cemented himself there.

I'm talking about how any perceived pro Luffy feat on Egghead became completely invalid. He was playing to nerfed Kizaru's tune the entire time, and still reached the state of complete exhaustion. It's insane.
Indeed.

After Luffy got acknowledged as Kaido's rival and then awakened and beat him, I thought he is clear of regular Admirals.

But Oda still had Kizaru fight him and leave the result in the air.

It makes me interested in what more will they showcase
 
#27
Yes, Kizaru was incredibly nerfed not only emotionally and psychologically, but also physically, as he reminded the audience that he fights in an environment that is not allowed to be affected by collateral damage, with Kizaru's DF being among the most destructive ones.
Excuses

He simply can't do it and won't do it even if he's fighting in open space
It won't magically make his AP powerful when he can't even damage franky
 
#36
You don't think DR Law can beat a bum like Jack ?
No he can't

Jack endurance is something else and Jack mammoth form is huge
We saw how wano Law GK didn't do much to Kaido cause of the size of Dragon Kaido

Plus Law is below sulong Dukes pre wano. He's not even above base Dukes.
Nothing proves DR/Zou Law was above base Dukes back then
 
#40
You don't think DR Law can beat a bum like Jack ?
Why is Jack a bum?
Bros Haki is strong enough to block attacks that cut through Kaidos scales
Bros strength was one shotting sulong minks left and right who’s base is comparable to Pedro
Bros endurance lets him use haki and fight for 120 hours straight

Nah Law ain’t winning this. Law can probably beat Cracker or Smoothie tho.
 
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