Speculations A "Mental Nerf" Is No Excuse for Kizaru Failing to Deal Significant Damage

[Daves John]

If Franky used Radical beam on BM just cuz it threatened her, then him using RB on Kizaru means it would threaten him too, right?

No, it is because Big Mom seemed worried and actually picked up her homie to block the attack, while she normally tanks all attacks face first.

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It’s about canceling out attacks… a kick is better at blocking attacks than just standing there and letting the attack hit. As Oda literally stated here, Kicking an attack is much more effective in blocking attack than just standing there.

The boots canonically did nothing. That was just Sanji.

Yes, but it is still the same physical body.

It makes ZERO sense that he doesn't even get scratched on one part but gets pierced CLEANLY through on the other part

 

[Ven437]

No, it is because Big Mom seemed worried and actually picked up her homie to block the attack, while she normally tanks all attacks face first.

Where did BM seem worried at all about the attack? So confusion is now considered to be worry?

Kizaru actually ran away from Franky lmfao

 

[Daves John]

Where did BM seem worried at all about the attack? So confusion is now considered to be worry?

Kizaru actually ran away from Franky lmfao

She is actively putting a homie in front of herself

 

[Ven437]

She is actively putting a homie in front of herself

So a fodder beanbag-looking Homie - which she can create thousands of - is good enough to counter lasers for someone like Big Mum

Good to know that

 

[Daves John]

So a fodder beanbag-looking Homie - which she can create thousands of - is good enough to counter lasers for someone like Big Mum

Good to know that

Never said it can counter it, but it had Big Mom worried.

Why else would she pick it up at that moment?

 

[Ven437]

Never said it can counter it, but it had Big Mom worried.

Why else would she pick it up at that moment?

So the logic that 1) Franky used RB on someone, 2) said someone reacted accordingly by putting up a defense (BM) or running away (Kizaru), means that they are worried

So what are these expressions then? Are they beyond worry? Fear?

 

[Cadis Etrama Di Urek]

You can change the range of light attacks but you can't change the damage output of light attacks.

Are you having a laugh?

Kizaru literally did that on egghead when every random attack from him wasn't leveling multiple buildings worth of space.

The magatama he spammed was far less destructive and smaller than what he used on Marineford.

It's flat out stated to us and him that he should not cause damage cause eghhead is too valuable.

 

[Daves John]

So the logic that 1) Franky used RB on someone, 2) said someone reacted accordingly by putting up a defense (BM) or running away (Kizaru), means that they are worried

So what are these expressions then? Are they beyond worry? Fear?

Already responded to the first part.

Idk what second is supposed to mean

 

[Sir Yasheen]

No, it is because Big Mom seemed worried and actually picked up her homie to block the attack, while she normally tanks all attacks face first.

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Yes, but it is still the same physical body.

It makes ZERO sense that he doesn't even get scratched on one part but gets pierced CLEANLY through on the other part

It’s almost like haki exists which physically hardens parts of the body during techniques like this…

 

[Ven437]

Already responded to the first part.

Idk what second is supposed to mean

It means that the bar for "being worried" - no sweat, no shock, not even a !! - is extremely low, and that Kizaru was heavily afraid of Sanji's power of love

 

[Daves John]

It’s almost like haki exists which physically hardens parts of the body during techniques like this…

Entirely possible, I just personally find it hard to believe Sanji only remembered to use it at his leg and that his Haki is strong enough to make such a difference.

 

[Uncle Van]

Copium

Yeah yeah. Statements only matter when it supports your level agenda Nudle. I get it

 

[Ven437]

threatened Seraphims and Big Mom

Sorry, the bar for "being threatened" is extremely low, and that Radical Beams would put mild damage on Kizaru considering he ran away from Wranky

 

[Jailer]

These discussions are so mind numbing tbh. Neither Luffy or Kizaru went all out. Luffy used Gear 5, but Oda used ACoC like 3 times the entire arc.

When the world realizes Luffy took out Kaido, he will get the 5 billion berry bounty he deserves, and he'll do it as a pirate, which only WB/Roger have done.



"No damage".

Mental nerf man sure as hell didn't stop for the kill shot on his supposed friends

 

[nik87]

You do know that if Zoro ends up not fighting Kizaru, this whole Kizaru praise will be for nothing?

I don't praise people based on whether they fight Zoro or not. I speak the facts.
Isnt it obvious that what I said is actually true? Or nobody realized that beside me?

 

[Wizak08]

None, but it's useless to ask the question since It was expliclty said that Ray was going 100% against Kizaru and wanted to help the mugi, who were being slaughtered, but couldn't. And Ray himself lamented he couldn't do more. Other that being showed visibly huffing and sweating.
Same situation as WB btw.

The usage of named moves is a telling indicator when we actually don't know if characters are going 100%.
In case of Kizaru, let alone not knowing: Oda told us 100 times he was conflicted and he even saved his "enemy".

Rayleigh was going all out despite not using any named attacks or internal destruction haki? He also has ACoC and didn't use it.

 

[Cadis Etrama Di Urek]

Rayleigh was going all out despite not using any named attacks or internal destruction haki? He also has ACoC and didn't use it.

Correct, Ray also didn't use any haki imbued in his sword at all since we saw no indication of it.

He was liar, the man truly wanted for Luffy and the rest of the promising new gen to die so he lied that he was trying his best.


That's what's canon here baby.

 

[Ven437]

Mental nerf man sure as hell didn't stop for the kill shot on his supposed friends

So Kizaru both helped Goofy regain his strength to save Bonney

But was about to kill Bonney and Kuma anyways by slicing them in half in the most gruesome way

Genius writing by Goda. Truly impeccable unclear justice

 

[Dragon777]

Rayleigh was going all out despite not using any named attacks or internal destruction haki? He also has ACoC and didn't use it.

Ray was going all out because he explicilty said It. It's that easy.

And it's useless to talk about visuals in a period of the manga where haki was totally invisible too.

Ray was shawn huffing and sweating and more so he himself said he wanted to do more, but couldn't.

 

[Jailer]

So Kizaru both helped Goofy regain his strength to save Bonney

But was about to kill Bonney and Kuma anyways by slicing them in half in the most gruesome way

Genius writing by Goda. Truly impeccable unclear justice

What a great character