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This is a disgusting post.
Oh really ?

Because defending men who :

- Want to ban abortion for women, thus helping the rise of failed pregnecies (and birth from rapes),
- Want to attack the constitution
- Are ready to deny their own daughter because she simply want to live without pain
- Rape women
- Provocked an insurrection
- Want to deport people
- Want to help a genocide
- Shares false information all day long and promote them massively on their social network
- Remove healthcare
- Refuse to tax Billionaires thus furthering the poverty of people
- Attack constantly LGBTQI+ and their right to exist
- Thinks latinos are trash
- Use Palestinians as an insult
- Have acquaintances with white surpremacist
- Want to hunt down political opponents
ETC.

Is not disgusting ?

I'm sorry. I gave you a chance.. but you are now defending a crypto-fascist who was elected as president.

I'm done being respectful with you.
 

Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
Oh really ?

Because defending men who :

- Want to ban abortion for women, thus helping the rise of failed pregnecies (and birth from rapes),
- Want to attack the constitution
- Are ready to deny their own daughter because she simply want to live without pain
- Rape women
- Provocked an insurrection
- Want to deport people
- Want to help a genocide
- Shares false information all day long and promote them massively on their social network
- Remove healthcare
- Refuse to tax Billionaires thus furthering the poverty of people
- Attack constantly LGBTQI+ and their right to exist
- Thinks latinos are trash
- Use Palestinians as an insult
- Have acquaintances with white surpremacist
- Want to hunt down political opponents
ETC.

Is not disgusting ?

I'm sorry. I gave you a chance.. but you are now defending a crypto-fascist who was elected as president.

I'm done being respectful with you.
You literally just used someone's daughter as a weapon to call them shameful and morally compromised. The more you post, the more you prove how little you actually care about people. As expected of someone who "boohoo" about high suicide rates.
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
Oh really ?

Because defending men who :

- Want to ban abortion for women, thus helping the rise of failed pregnecies (and birth from rapes),
- Want to attack the constitution
- Are ready to deny their own daughter because she simply want to live without pain
- Rape women
- Provocked an insurrection
- Want to deport people
- Want to help a genocide
- Shares false information all day long and promote them massively on their social network
- Remove healthcare
- Refuse to tax Billionaires thus furthering the poverty of people
- Attack constantly LGBTQI+ and their right to exist
- Thinks latinos are trash
- Use Palestinians as an insult
- Have acquaintances with white surpremacist
- Want to hunt down political opponents
ETC.

Is not disgusting ?

I'm sorry. I gave you a chance.. but you are now defending a crypto-fascist who was elected as president.

I'm done being respectful with you.
I do not need your respect. I voted for what would give my family a better life with no regrets.

Not to mention most of what you posted is false or half information. Like abortions weren't banned nor does Trump want them banned, he sent the decisions back to the states.

With the constituation thing it's the left that constantly attacks it, especially the free speech part.

My daughter? Live in pain? What? Btw my daughter and literally all her friends were happy Trump won, which I think means their parents also supported Trump and they are very diverse group. It's going to be nice havign Trump back so we can afford the children we have.

I'm not against deportation of those who broke the law to enter the country, specifically those who have committed crimes here. But I guess one can argue they committed crimes entering?

Everyone especially the left push false narratives. He's hilter... he's going to lock everyone up... but yeah we are going to ensure a peaceful pass of power. Because they know they lied about him.

No one is removing healthcare.

Taxes is a more complicated and I don't really care as long as americans can afford to live which we can't under the current administration which is why Trump has run in a landslide.

No they don't promote genocide. In fact, he and other republicans have repeatly said they want to end the wars to stop people from dying. Actually I believe was one of Trump most authentic responses in when he said he wanted to stop people dying in the wars.

About the rights. Republicans by the majority do not care what adult people do, they just don't want it pushed on children especially those things that can not be reversed. Also if someone is born with XY chromosones they should not play in girl sports, is another very important talking point they made.

He doesn't believe Latinos are trash. The comedian made a joke which was not Trump and I believe it was actually a reference to the actual physical trash problem they have. Someone can correct me on this.

The left hunted him down....
 
Here is a check list for you:



You can add a few more boxes if you want to sea if your country is on the fascist scale:

- Starts to glorify the past to a weird degree
- Starts to call scientists woke traitors
- Advocate for the removal of the constitution on the basis of "the elites are using it to restrain the people"
- Starts to arrests journalist and opposition member but also scientists.
- Creates a pole of science "without woke elites"
- Completely reforms the government agencies (CIA, FBI etc.)
- Starts to wage a war on the basis of the security of the united state and the united people
- Reforms the entertainment industry, prevent leftists media to appear for the good of the people
- Pushes the cult of the hero to the population through the medias and through propaganda
- Start to deport people massively
- Creates camp for people in "waiting" for deportations
- Arrests anyone questionning the methods of the governement
I love how so much of this is arbitrary appeal to authority. "Don't question anything because reasons!". Respect has to be earned and then maintained. If anything undermines its own respect then it has to be earned back, not demanded arrogantly.

Take mainstream media outlets. They've lied about WMDs in Iraq, lied about Iraqi soldiers stealing incubators out of hospital, lied about how well Ukraine is doing in the war with fantasy stories about the Ghost of Kyiv and are currently lying about Israeli football hooligans that chanted "death to Arabs", disrupted the minute's silence for Valencia flooding victims, destroyed people's property and attacked Moroccan taxi drivers, being victims of a "pogrom".

Presstitutes absolutely should be questioned. They're whores that sold their souls and are paid by the word. Lmao.
Indeed. Because the cost is not the problem.

The cost are only due to the irregular situation and the lifes people have to endure in order to immigrate. In other words, the problem is not the cost, it's the system.
Spoken like a fella that never paid taxes to contribute to society. :risitavirus:
Great, now go have an actual debate with Afroking. He was the one whose statistics you ran away from.
If you think "force", then you obviously are lacking media literacy since I literally expressed the desire NOT to force people to think a certain way.

This further my point in thinking that people here and especially Trump enablers have a problem of reading skills. (and a problem with reality, but that's another issue)
1) People read between the lines and see your intentions. It is obvious that you would pull an OJ on us if given the opportunity.

2) You cannot unironically criticise other people's "media literacy" skills when you couldn't even understand the concept of Narrative Conflict and hilariously insisted that Death Note was a Battle Shonen while One Piece wasn't. :risitameh:
I'm not a revolutionnary mate. But that's for showing your knowledge of politics power struggle. lol
I know. That's why I called you an aesthetic larper. You go around wearing anarchist flags but cry every time people don't vote for an entrenched shit lib party that has objectively ruined a nation. 100% Baizuo behaviour. :saden:
Oh... that's low
Lmao. Get a job. You clearly have motivation, you just waste it on pure inanities like Carrot 4 Nakama essays longer than full collage papers, lengthy One Piece analysis posts and political activist posts the length of Das Krapital chapters. Not to mention all the lengthy debates you get into.
 

Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
I love how so much of this is arbitrary appeal to authority. "Don't question anything because reasons!". Respect has to be earned and then maintained. If anything undermines its own respect then it has to be earned back, not demanded arrogantly.

Take mainstream media outlets. They've lied about WMDs in Iraq, lied about Iraqi soldiers stealing incubators out of hospital, lied about how well Ukraine is doing in the war with fantasy stories about the Ghost of Kyiv and are currently lying about Israeli football hooligans that chanted "death to Arabs", disrupted the minute's silence for Valencia flooding victims, destroyed people's property and attacked Moroccan taxi drivers, being victims of a "pogrom".

Presstitutes absolutely should be questioned. They're whores that sold their souls and are paid by the word. Lmao.

Spoken like a fella that never paid taxes to contribute to society. :risitavirus:

Great, now go have an actual debate with Afroking. He was the one whose statistics you ran away from.

1) People read between the lines and see your intentions. It is obvious that you would pull an OJ on us if given the opportunity.

2) You cannot unironically criticise other people's "media literacy" skills when you couldn't even understand the concept of Narrative Conflict and hilariously insisted that Death Note was a Battle Shonen while One Piece wasn't. :risitameh:

I know. That's why I called you an aesthetic larper. You go around wearing anarchist flags but cry every time people don't vote for an entrenched shit lib party that has objectively ruined a nation. 100% Baizuo behaviour. :saden:

Lmao. Get a job. You clearly have motivation, you just waste it on pure inanities like Carrot 4 Nakama essays longer than full collage papers, lengthy One Piece analysis posts and political activist posts the length of Das Krapital chapters. Not to mention all the lengthy debates you get into.
Biggest case of irony his how he just told Zemmi, a woman, that he doesn't respect her. He constantly goes around saying respect women, stop being sexist, patriarchy and letting women speak. However, whenever a female disagrees with him he belittles them. He does the same thing with minorities, immigrants and LGBTQ.

Perfectly fine to belittle women, tell them how they should feel and not respect them when he's the one doing it.
 
Oh really ?

Because defending men who :

- Want to ban abortion for women, thus helping the rise of failed pregnecies (and birth from rapes),
- Want to attack the constitution
- Are ready to deny their own daughter because she simply want to live without pain
- Rape women
- Provocked an insurrection
- Want to deport people
- Want to help a genocide
- Shares false information all day long and promote them massively on their social network
- Remove healthcare
- Refuse to tax Billionaires thus furthering the poverty of people
- Attack constantly LGBTQI+ and their right to exist
- Thinks latinos are trash
- Use Palestinians as an insult
- Have acquaintances with white surpremacist
- Want to hunt down political opponents
ETC.

Is not disgusting ?

I'm sorry. I gave you a chance.. but you are now defending a crypto-fascist who was elected as president.

I'm done being respectful with you.
All of those are strawmen. You guys make up shit about your political opponents all the time. Trump won by popular vote. Deal with it.
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Biggest case of irony his how he just told Zemmi, a woman, that he doesn't respect her. He constantly goes around saying respect women, stop being sexist, patriarchy and letting women speak. However, whenever a female disagrees with him he belittles them. He does the same thing with minorities, immigrants and LGBTQ.

Perfectly fine to belittle women, tell them how they should feel and not respect them when he's the one doing it.
He called Okama of all people transphobic.:pepeclown:
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
Biggest case of irony his how he just told Zemmi, a woman, that he doesn't respect her. He constantly goes around saying respect women, stop being sexist, patriarchy and letting women speak. However, whenever a female disagrees with him he belittles them. He does the same thing with minorities, immigrants and LGBTQ.

Perfectly fine to belittle women, tell them how they should feel and not respect them when he's the one doing it.
I should start doing something I usually find Cringe. "Excuse me! I'm speaking. I'm a woman. Shut up."

What people really mean when they say raise this 'insert demographic' voice. They mean--only if they agree me.
 
Oh really ?

Because defending men who :

- Want to ban abortion for women, thus helping the rise of failed pregnecies (and birth from rapes),
- Want to attack the constitution
- Are ready to deny their own daughter because she simply want to live without pain
- Rape women
- Provocked an insurrection
- Want to deport people
- Want to help a genocide
- Shares false information all day long and promote them massively on their social network
- Remove healthcare
- Refuse to tax Billionaires thus furthering the poverty of people
- Attack constantly LGBTQI+ and their right to exist
- Thinks latinos are trash
- Use Palestinians as an insult
- Have acquaintances with white surpremacist
- Want to hunt down political opponents
ETC.

Is not disgusting ?

I'm sorry. I gave you a chance.. but you are now defending a crypto-fascist who was elected as president.

I'm done being respectful with you.
Nothing disgusting about your post. Don't entertain this Musk fan🤡
 
You literally just used someone's daughter as a weapon to call them shameful and morally compromised. The more you post, the more you prove how little you actually about people. As expected of someone who "boohoo" about high suicide rates.
Who the F. do you think I am ?

Do you expect leftists to be saint mate ? Do you expect us to simply tell you "hon hon hon, you elected a cryptofascist that will put all women and minorities of your country in danger, good job, I respect your choice" ????

You now have to deal with the consequences of your choice and yes. This was a low blow. I conceide, but there are no other solutions to wake you guyz the F up.

Do not expect me to respect people who defend those who want to arm others, and trust me that you cannot expect me just to be the nice guy when what she did, what throw to my face all the time all the moment when she tried protect her family from the woke ideology who is trying to help people to live their lives happily.

Who the F. do you think we are ?

I cared so much that for MONTHS I prevented myself from saying anything really disrespectfull to Zemmi. Making it clear that I respected her opinions until a certain point.

But telling me that those two men are not the problematic ones that we have been describing for years and that we should listen to them... when Trans people are literally SCARED THE F for their lives and thinking about detransitionning just because those two clowns decided to rip America appart ?

Nah... this is my limit. Who do you think I am ?

Stop thinking leftist should be good and nice all the time, it prevents you from understanding the legitimacy of anger in front of oppression.

And do not try to give me moral lesson when all you do is lie about me and enable constant attack on me.

Not to mention most of what you posted is false or half information.
Those are true informations. Sorry.


And you know what you are right. I went overboard and I let my anger speak for once. So @Zemmi I'm sorry if I hurt you. But you have to understand that to me, the defense of Trump is not audible.

People like me are put in danger because of people Trump in the united States, because do not think that because he doesn't talk about disabled he doesn't think of us as sub-human



We have REAL and documented reasons to be angry at people who elected him. I myself have family members in the US that might be in danger because of him.

Just because he backtraks on certains horrible things that he says and silence he thoughts to the maximum, his actions are clear.

He is a danger.


For you first, and THEN for me. Because through his rise, it will also allows the rise of far right groups all over the world.

Like abortions weren't banned nor does Trump want them banned
Except those case I guess ?



And for what Trump believes :

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/live-update/election-news-2024/where-trump-stands-on-abortion

Oh but he backtrack about the punishment... I'm sure he do not believe in it ... AT ALL..


My daughter? Live in pain? What? Btw my daughter and literally all her friends were happy Trump won, which I think means their parents also supported Trump and they are very diverse group. It's going to be nice havign Trump back so we can afford the children we have.
Good, i'm glad you have a healthy relationship with her


I'm not against deportation of those who broke the law to enter the country, specifically those who have committed crimes here. But I guess one can argue they committed crimes entering?
case and point


Everyone especially the left push false narratives. He's hilter... he's going to lock everyone up... but yeah we are going to ensure a peaceful pass of power. Because they know they lied about him.
You know why people accept fascism so easily ?

It's because they like the stability of the system and because they think that there will always be a person who will suffer more than themselves... until they are themselves arrested simply because they were denounced to the governement by someone with a little bit more priviledges.

I'm sure you won't have problems with the rise of white supremacists and neo nazis groups because of the elections of Trump... right ?


No one is removing healthcare.
Indeed, you have none. My bad.


Taxes is a more complicated and I don't really care as long as americans can afford to live which we can't under the current administration which is why Trump has run in a landslide.
A billionnaire running for people in poverty ? Good luck with that.



No they don't promote genocide. In fact, he and other republicans have repeatly said they want to end the wars to stop people from dying.
By "letting Israel finish the job" (and keep on sending weapon, and thus, helping in the genocide)

Or, maybe I'm wrong and at one point Trump said that he would stop sending weapons to Israel ???

:wellwell:


About the rights. Republicans by the majority do not care what adult people do, they just don't want it pushed on children especially those things that can not be reversed
So yes, they care.


Also if someone is born with XY chromosones they should not play in girl sports, is another very important talking point they made.
So they totally care.

And thus.. Attack the right of LGBTQI+ to live. What a way to make my point.


He doesn't believe Latinos are trash.
Oh ! Sorryyyyy

He called the US "a garbage can for the world" because there were undocumented immigrant coming through

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tru...orld-latest-anti-immigrant/story?id=115149893

My bad with that...


The left hunted him down....
Liberals did* and Legitimately, he provocked a coup attempt.


I love how so much of this is arbitrary appeal to authority. "Don't question anything because reasons!"
Have fun with not questionning authority in the future

:BigW:


Take mainstream media outlets. They've lied about WMDs in Iraq, lied about Iraqi soldiers stealing incubators out of hospital, lied about how well Ukraine is doing in the war with fantasy stories about the Ghost of Kyiv and are currently lying about Israeli football hooligans that chanted "death to Arabs", disrupted the minute's silence for Valencia flooding victims, destroyed people's property and attacked Moroccan taxi drivers, being victims of a "pogrom".

Presstitutes absolutely should be questioned. They're whores that sold their souls and are paid by the word. Lmao.
You are confusing the press with the ideology of the press.

What we need is of a mainstream leftist press to counter the liberal and far right press, NOT to attack the press all together !

That's is EXACTLY what authoritarism would be.


Spoken like a fella that never paid taxes to contribute to society. :risitavirus:
Sure, keep thinking that.


Great, now go have an actual debate with Afroking. He was the one whose statistics you ran away from.
Actually I replied to him and he was the one who run from the real argument.


1) People read between the lines and see your intentions. It is obvious that you would pull an OJ on us if given the opportunity.
To be able to read correctly between the lines, you need to be able to read correctly first mate.

2) You cannot unironically criticise other people's "media literacy" skills when you couldn't even understand the concept of Narrative Conflict and hilariously insisted that Death Note was a Battle Shonen while One Piece wasn't. :risitameh:
That's funny because you think you have a point here, when you are actually praising my literacy skill without being aware of it.

Thanks for that

:BigW:


I know. That's why I called you an aesthetic larper. You go around wearing anarchist flags but cry every time people don't vote for an entrenched shit lib party that has objectively ruined a nation. 100% Baizuo behaviour. :saden:
Anarchic flag ?

You don't know what the anti-fa flag is da ya ?


Lmao. Get a job. You clearly have motivation, you just waste it on pure inanities like Carrot 4 Nakama essays longer than full collage papers, lengthy One Piece analysis posts and political activist posts the length of Das Krapital chapters. Not to mention all the lengthy debates you get into.
Damn, I have motivation now ?

Well, I guess that must be why I wasn't able to leave my flat the entire month...

I guess you are a real doctor..

lol


Biggest case of irony his how he just told Zemmi, a woman, that he doesn't respect her.
It's funny that you think radical leftist think that just because someone is a woman, we should respect them. That's one of the reasons why I keep saying that you have very little knowledge about radical leftism.

I didn't respect Zemmi until now because she was a woman, but because she never attacked other people. And because there was a chance for her to actually make the right choice.

I was deluded.



e does the same thing with minorities, immigrants and LGBTQ.
Same things ? Come on now. I'm not advocating to suppress anyone's right to live happy here. You have critical thinking, it might be the time to use it.



Perfectly fine to belittle women, tell them how they should feel and not respect them when he's the one doing it.
I do the same for you mate. I actually prevented myself to do with Zemmi what I do for you guyz.. Why do you suddenly see a difference here ?

:sus::wellwell:



All of those are strawmen. You guys make up shit about your political opponents all the time. Trump won by popular vote. Deal with it.
Strawmen ? Well..

You will see. Trust me, I hope I'm wrong.

He called Okama of all people transphobic.
Wanting to prevent people to transition is exactly that, yes.
 

Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
Who the F. do you think I am ?
A hypocritical narcissist who only cares his ego and being seen as a morally superior person. This was proven time and time again by your constant dismissal of people's struggles, interests and opinions whenever it's inconvenient for your stance. And more other things.

Do you expect leftists to be saint mate ? Do you expect us to simply tell you "hon hon hon, you elected a cryptofascist that will put all women and minorities of your country in danger, good job, I respect your choice" ????
What do you mean us? You're once again trying to hide the behind the illusion of comradery to avoid scrutiny. People talk about YOU. You are not a representation of leftistism. You're not a real one. You are, once again, a fake leftist because you are too uneducated and narcissistic to be a real one. You are a liberal with authoritarian tendencies. You do nothing but make things more right wing.

The very fact that I can convince right wingers of left wing policy and not you is proof that the issue is not them, but your attitude and argumentation.
 
A hypocritical narcissist who only cares his ego and being seen as a morally superior person.
That would be damn delulu in such a forum lmao


This was proven time and time again by your constant dismissal of people's struggles
Oh really ? Have I ever denied the struggle of someone ? have I ever said to someone that what they lived was not real ?

Quote me that please. Let's see if you can hold up on your lies.


People talk about YOU.
That's what you think. But i'm actually part of the nice ones. "me".. is actually someone quite controlled in front of your constant BS. So yes, you talk about me. To denounce my radicalism and my "fake" leftist. Without understanding that "I", I'm really not some kind of rare specimen.

Leftists, are not saint. i'm not, some of my relatives are not and you can't get that. Because you still believe in a very narrow vision of leftism that never existed in the first place. A vision of leftists who do not really care about oppressions and do not really express their anger or frustration.

Leftists who never really tried to challenge your values. Well.. those leftists.. are indeed not really on my side. They are not really leftist either lol.


You're not a real one.
My point exactly.. I'm not a leftist as you see leftists. i'm kind of a more radical breed.

In fact, I'm someone that - contrary to many leftists - actually tries to talk with you instead of simply be a large wall that you can't pass.

I'm not exactly nice, but I'm open. You are failing to see that.


You are a liberal with authorarian tendencies.
lol


You don't nothing but make things more right wing.
oh, the reactance argument again. Fun.. fun.


The very fact that I can convince right wingers of left wing policy and not you is proof that the issue is not them
LMAO, no. It just proves that you are closer to their ideas that I am. And it's ok. We need people like you. ... Kinda.
 
That would be damn delulu in such a forum lmao



Oh really ? Have I ever denied the struggle of someone ? have I ever said to someone that what they lived was not real ?

Quote me that please. Let's see if you can hold up on your lies.



That's what you think. But i'm actually part of the nice ones. "me".. is actually someone quite controlled in front of your constant BS. So yes, you talk about me. To denounce my radicalism and my "fake" leftist. Without understanding that "I", I'm really not some kind of rare specimen.

Leftists, are not saint. i'm not, some of my relatives are not and you can't get that. Because you still believe in a very narrow vision of leftism that never existed in the first place. A vision of leftists who do not really care about oppressions and do not really express their anger or frustration.

Leftists who never really tried to challenge your values. Well.. those leftists.. are indeed not really on my side. They are not really leftist either lol.



My point exactly.. I'm not a leftist as you see leftists. i'm kind of a more radical breed.

In fact, I'm someone that - contrary to many leftists - actually tries to talk with you instead of simply be a large wall that you can't pass.

I'm not exactly nice, but I'm open. You are failing to see that.



lol



oh, the reactance argument again. Fun.. fun.



LMAO, no. It just proves that you are closer to their ideas that I am. And it's ok. We need people like you. ... Kinda.
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"If you are able to convince right wingers of the necessity of left wing policy, it means you must be right wing yourself."

Christ....
You can't help but twist arguments, hm ?

No. it's simply means that you are closer in their ideology and therefore have less political gap.

Someone on the right side will have much more chances to deradicalize a far rightist, same thing you have much more chances to convince me than a far rightists. You need to take into account the political spectrum and the bias that it creates fir everyone depending the relative place of two people on the scale.
 
Have fun with not questionning authority in the future

:BigW:
> You: Appeals to authority.
> Me: "I should be able to question any authority. Especially authority that has lost respect and has lied."
> You: "Have fun not questioning authority!"

:pepeke:
You are confusing the press with the ideology of the press.

What we need is of a mainstream leftist press to counter the liberal and far right press, NOT to attack the press all together !

That's is EXACTLY what authoritarism would be.
Your suggestion is just to add another propaganda outlet out there. That is fine as long as I can question it too. If it is an open information market, I should be able to question it. If it is regulated then I better see journalists at big name outlets going to jail for mass deception of the general population.

Instead, the mainstream press publish lies without punishment but then gets mad when people don't believe their current bullshit based on their past objective bullshit.

The press wasn't attacked, it openly undermined itself and people called them out on it. Big difference.

Respect is earned, not demanded.
Actually I replied to him and he was the one who run from the real argument.
All you did was say "Lalalalalala! You're wrong! I'm right!"

That is running away from a real debate. Lmao.
To be able to read correctly between the lines, you need to be able to read correctly first mate.


That's funny because you think you have a point here, when you are actually praising my literacy skill without being aware of it.

Thanks for that
Wallowing in your smug ignorance while being incapable of comprehending the concept of Narrative Conflict just makes you a happy ignoramus, it doesn't make you correct. :kobeha:
Anarchic flag ?

You don't know what the anti-fa flag is da ya?
You are such a fraudulent larper that you don't even understand the history or the meaning of the symbols you so ignorantly display or even know what they are.
You absolute Baizuo larper. You've had an anarchist flag on its side for like a year straight as your avy background and you didn't even know. You utter ignoramus. :ohreally:
Damn, I have motivation now ?

Well, I guess that must be why I wasn't able to leave my flat the entire month...

I guess you are a real doctor..

lol
Have you told your doctor about all of your intense, time wasting activities on the internet? About your political activism? Your endless essays and analyses? Or did you omit all of that just so you can officially have an excuse to be willfully lazy? An "appeal to authority" excuse?

It is obvious you have motivation just by looking at your posting history. You're belligerently, persistently motivated even. No truly unmotivated individual would willingly waste this much time on a feckin weeb forum.

Also, I do appreciate the reveal of you literally not touching grass for months at a time. :denzimote:
 

Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
You can't help but twist arguments, hm ?

No. it's simply means that you are closer in their ideology and therefore have less political gap.

Someone on the right side will have much more chances to deradicalize a far rightist, same thing you have much more chances to convince me than a far rightists. You need to take into account the political spectrum and the bias that it creates fir everyone depending the relative place of two people on the scale.
No genius. It's called treating them like people and arguing properly. You couldn't convince people of left wing policy, but I could with even the same talking points.

For example, you say workers rights are leftist/socialist. Right wingers tell you to fuck off, but I could convince them that worker's rights are indeed socialistic. You dont have to be right wing or ideologically similar to conservatism to do that.

Once again, you're making up excuses for your inability to debate.
 
> You: Appeals to authority.
> Me: "I should be able to question any authority. Especially authority that has lost respect and has lied."
> You: "Have fun not questioning authority!"

:pepeke:
Are you seriously confusing me telling you that Trump is about to go berserk based on the work of researcher and political analysts with Trump being authoritarian ?

:snoopy:


Your suggestion is just to add another propaganda outlet out there.
Actually it's more complicated than that.


I should be able to question it.
Indeed.


If it is regulated then I better see journalists at big name outlets going to jail for mass deception of the general population.
You have authoritarian leanancy do ya ?

Unless I see journalist push something like a genocide.. fake news doesn't deserve to put people to Jail mate. Stay on earth.


Instead, the mainstream press publish lies without punishment but then gets mad when people don't believe their current bullshit based on their past objective bullshit.
Maybe stop listening to the mainstream press.


The press wasn't attacked, it openly undermined itself and people called them out on it. Big difference.
It was and it will be again.


All you did was say "Lalalalalala! You're wrong! I'm right!"

That is running away from a real debate. Lmao.
Sure, keep living in fantasy. In the meantime, I've yet to see anyone prove the REAL negative impact of undocumented immigration


Wallowing in your smug ignorance while being incapable of comprehending the concept of Narrative Conflict just makes you a happy ignoramus, it doesn't make you correct. :kobeha:
That's funny, because you seems to think once again that you made a point. I learned I understood the concept of narrative conflict when I was 19 mate. 17 years ago.

You are cute but I don't think you are really in position to teach me anything about storytelling.


You are such a fraudulent larper that you don't even understand the history or the meaning of the symbols you so ignorantly display or even what they are.
LMAO. That would be an Anarcho capitalist flag.



Obviously this is not something that I revendicate since it's the opposite of my ideology. xD

You are cute.

I simply disliked the green color of the original picture mate. Nothing more.

And an anarchist flag is this:



It's black. Hence why the flag "anarcho communism" (the flag close to the antifa flag) and anarcho capitalist are red/black and yellow/black.

:DanySquint:

Have you told your doctor about all of your intense, time wasting activities on the internet? About your political activism? Your endless essays and analyses? Or did you omit all of that just so you can officially have an excuse to be willfully lazy? An "appeal to authority" excuse?

It is obvious you have motivation just by looking at your posting history. You're belligerently, persistently motivated even. No truly unmotivated individual would willingly waste this much time on a feckin weeb forum.

Also, I do appreciate the reveal of you literally not touching grass for months at a time. :denzimote:
You know so little about mental health mate. But it's ok.

It's not an easy field.


No genius. It's called treating them like people and arguing properly. You couldn't convince people of left wing policy, but I could with even the same talking points.
Absolutely not.

Political leanance creates bias. And our confirmation bias helps us integrate information depending on who you are talking to.

In rethoric and critical thinking, this is called the framing effect.

While yes, I could help myself in being more respectfull I will simply never be able to show to a person on the far right something factual. On the other hand, if I'm close to said person and manage to give them the same data, they will be much more welcoming.

So while I keep trying to convince people here, my goal is not there. My goal is to convince people who are the closest to me in term of political ideology. Hence why I often say that I do not only talk to you, but to everyone else.

Only liberals and centrist thinks that rationnality and "respect" can convince anyone as long as they listen. In reality, it's not the case.


For example, you say workers rights are leftist/socialist. Right wingers tell you to fuck off, but I could convince them that worker's rights are indeed socialistic
Go on. Try.

I challenge you, with your respect. To convince Nameless or Ravager that capitalism is actually oppressing workers and we need to regulate it strongly or even, get rid of it.

Let's see if your rationnalism and respect can succeed.

I PROMISE YOU with all that I have that if you manage to convince one of them about the danger that is capitalism. I will stop being arrogant on the spot with everyone and I will try to explain things with respect.

In fact, if you manage on top of that to convince Ravager to stop his hatefull anti-trans rethoric, I'll write a thread to your glory.
 

Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
Only liberals and centrist thinks that rationnality and "respect" can convince anyone as long as they listen. In reality, it's not the case.
Of course you think being rational or respect is somehow bad. You always wonder why people never listen to you, and don't think disrespecting them is one of the reasons....just you..

I challenge you, with your respect. To convince Nameless or Ravager that capitalism is actually oppressing workers and we need to regulate it strongly or even, get rid of it.
Proof that you don't even listen. @Ravagerblade has said over and over again that CRONY(unregulated) capitalism is screwing over everybody. He has been vocal that strong regulations are mandatory to keep these corporations in check. He's not anti-capitalist no, but he's been upfront about CRONY capitalism being poison and regulations being necessary. Did I convince him of that? Nope. It was a belief he already had.

You kept trying to paint him as an oppression lover.

In fact, if you manage on top of that to convince Ravager to stop his hatefull anti-trans rethoric, I'll write a thread to your glory.
I don't seek stuff like that unlike you. I don't make threads glorying myself or presenting myself as a martyr.
 
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