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Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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Zenos7 said:
if one religion states there is only one god and the next has multiple ones, they arent both "true in their own way".
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idk

I’m converting to Judaism, but my family is Hindu. Many Jewish prayers say the phrase “the God of my ancestors…”

I just assume that we’re all praying to the same God and I just think about God slightly differently from my family.
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BoaHancocksHusband said:
Vedic Hinduism belongs to Pakistan.
Indra Agni and Varuna the Big 3 of Vedic Hinduism brought by the Indo-Aryans

As for latter portions of Hinduism like Puranic literature etc etc the Sutras, that can go to the dravidian Gangetic Indians
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I mean

Pakistan didn’t exist until the 1940s and anyone who has south Asian ancestry probably had ancestors from what is now pakistan.
 
BoaHancocksHusband

BoaHancocksHusband

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The one thing i find problemaric or not aligned with anything i can think of in Hinduism
is the fact that it was always changing from its advent in like circa 5000-4000 BCE to like 1600 AD.
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Pakistan didn’t exist until the 1940s and anyone who has south Asian ancestry probably had ancestors from what is now pakistan.[/QUOTE]

That is supposing South Asian societies weren't by and large agrarian for the majority of their civilizations, but yeah there is overlap. Indus River descendants though were underneath different empires than India proper was, so not exactly that similar like Indo-Greek empires, like various conquering Central Asians being stopped in the Punjab region etc etc

The name of India is a corruption of the word Sindhu. Neighboring Arabs, Iranians uttered's' as 'h' and called this land Hindu. Greeks pronounced this name as Indus.
. Hindustan coming in the 1600s with Persian influence.

Saptasindhu or the Seven rivers were written about even in the Rig Vedas 3000 BCE ish.
 
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Blax Blah

Blax Blah

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Logiko said:
I hope they will use it right. I will let that here hoping they will stop using the political thread as a way to express religious views.

About God @Zenos7 (I don't think you saw my answer)

The concept of god exist. But the question you need to ask yourself is, "what is a god ?"

I think that this question is not answerable, therefore I think a god can't exist.
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In the Bible it says that God is Spirit, John 4:24 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth., and I don't think you can define what a spirit is, at least not do it with what we know in a way that covers everything, but there seems to be a common attribute of spirits, that is, spirits seem to be living beings that are ideas or rather that some ideas in a specific set of ideas are living beings named spirits like how there are spirits of lust and spirits of God and how Jesus says He is the truth and life John 11:25-26 25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? And John 14:6 “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” What do you all think ? =],

Edit: I would also like to add, if it is true that some ideas, like life, hope, truth, are spirits, then the saying, a person will die, but nit their ideas, becomes really funny since it would mean you will die but you will live on in the spiritual world, and it may also explain why fallen angels can not repent, because if an angel is a morally good idea, and they ebcome an evil one, well you can't redeem evil ideas and evil concepts, you can only get rid of their presence,
 
Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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Honestly feel like America was right in separating religion from government and countries like Israel and the various Islamic states are kinda fucked because of they have a state religion.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mosque_seizure

Like I was reading about this recently.

Basically a religious fundamentalist seized the mosque in Mecca in order to further his agenda. The Ayatollah of Iran blamed the incident on America and Zionists. Mass anti American riots broke out in the Muslim world.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_U.S._embassy_burning_in_Islamabad

A US embassy was burned to the ground in Pakistan and some other countries. Many people died, all for basically no reason.
 
Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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Zenos7 said:
Yes, secularism is great.
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I think secularism is probably the reason why there isn’t as much Christian violence as opposed to Islamic violence nowadays.

I mean ofc you can always point to stuff like the west’s exploits in the Middle East or some random mass shooter as an example of Christians being violent.

But like nobody is going to get lynched for blaspheming Jesus in a Christian country like you might in a Muslim country.
 
Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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The reason for that is probably that whereas Christian majority nations tend to be secular, many Muslim majority countries have Islam as the state religion.

I think the combination of state power and religion leads to extremism being promoted and condoned.

It’s the same in Israel and countries that are secular on paper but are edging towards a state religion(ex. India)
 
Blax Blah

Blax Blah

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The idea that God loves you is so amazing and I can't imagine how amazing it is, I just had this thought,

Imagine that while you are alive, or after you die, you meet thid being who is light and He says He loves you,
 
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