Powers & Abilities Shanks, Fuji and Law, The Common Thing

[nik87]

Only among One Piece fandom you will find people arguing that people who use their swords to fight arent swordsmen.
Nowhere else.

there fans have been trying in various degrees to disqualify them from being called a swordsman. The reason being simple that Mihawk is WSS and Zoro will be WSS and any and every swordsman is/will be automatically weaker than them.

The best part by far is that nobody realizes that whether one is a swordsman or not changes absolutely nothing about them being weaker than Mihawk/Zoro. If they realized that, the silly who is a swordsman thing would never exist. All because they haven't figured out why WSS is stronger than both WSC and WSM.

 

[zenox]

lol
lmao even



https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/search/7286064/?page=9&q=devil+fruit+merchant&o=date

Maybe lolofans have a df too, a reality bending one to cope to eternity


at this point swordsuckers debating at themself at this point trying to gaslight to existence a point of narrative that doesn't even exist

Ah-yes
Somehow calling fujitora a df merchant goes against my take of being a swordsman cause u think that’s the case


listen , these devil-merchant merchants also have a sword style around their devil fruits which make them a swordsman
There is no contradiction here


hypetool-fans are just really good at cooking themselves

Fuji is definitely a swordsman

just look at him lol

He is the most obvious blind- swordsman u can see in anime/ manga

It’s a wholeass troupe

 

[haxxor]

Mihawk is underwhelming as shit

zoros true benchmark is ancient Ryuma , forget the hardly top tier Hawkeye

 

[L57]

If he was, then why didn’t the WG give Mihawk or Buggy higher bounties than Shanks?

Bcs bounties arent just strenght dumbo
Brannew also said buggy is on equal footing with shanks yet 1b lower

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Ah-yes
Somehow calling fujitora a df merchant goes against my take of being a swordsman cause u think that’s the case


listen , these devil-merchant merchants also have a sword style around their devil fruits which make them a swordsman
There is no contradiction here


hypetool-fans are just really good at cooking themselves


He is the most obvious blind- swordsman u can see in anime/ manga

It’s a wholeass troupe

Yep

My absolute favorite blind swordsman in manga is from Tenkaichi

Crazy mf

 

[L57]

@kekaro buddy u getting cooked
Pull up

 

[kekaro]

@kekaro buddy u getting cooked
Pull up

Pull up to what them coping?
I said the ones that slandering people are the zdom girls and I literally provided post about the person that got mad about that comment with using the exact terminology to word for word including

Better call an ambulance but not for me
All the head canon stuff after that deflect doesn't interest me this is a self whine thread about a talking point that doesn't exist

 

[L57]

Pull up to what them coping?
I said the ones that slandering people are the zdom girls and I literally provided post about the person that got mad about that comment with using the exact terminology to word for word including

Better call an ambulance but not for me
All the head canon stuff after that deflect doesn't interest me this is a self whine thread about a talking point that doesn't exist

Aint reading all that

 

[kekaro]

Aint reading all that

Damn got cooked again by l57

 

[zenox]

Pull up to what them coping?
I said the ones that slandering people are the zdom girls and I literally provided post about the person that got mad about that comment with using the exact terminology to word for word including

Better call an ambulance but not for me
All the head canon stuff after that deflect doesn't interest me this is a self whine thread about a talking point that doesn't exist

U got an insane amount of ego lol

its simple ,
Calling someone a df merchant doesn’t go against them being swordsmen

That’s where I had a laugh at ,
I never denied calling someone a devil fruit merchant
It’s just a slander term ..

 

[kekaro]

U got an insane amount of ego lol

its simple ,
Calling someone a df merchant doesn’t go against them being swordsmen

That’s where I had a laugh at ,
I never denied calling someone a devil fruit merchant
It’s just a slander term ..

I give you one million dollars if you point to me where I said you said they are not swordsman swordman
I said (that's why also put it even into quotation) there is only one fandom that slanders them for not being"true" swordsman and being "df merchants". Seems like a communication issue. I know its a slanderterm i even called it so
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-and-law-the-common-thing.62199/#post-5767446

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The best part by far is that nobody realizes that whether one is a swordsman or not changes absolutely nothing about them being weaker than Mihawk/Zoro. If they realized that, the silly who is a swordsman thing would never exist. All because they haven't figured out why WSS is stronger than both WSC and WSM.

HAs there been EVER a truer true?

 

[zenox]

I give you one million dollars if you point to me where I said you said they are not swordsman swordman
I said (that's why also put it even into quotation) there is only one fandom that slanders them for not being"true" swordsman and being "df merchants". Seems like a communication issue. I know its a slanderterm i even called it so
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-and-law-the-common-thing.62199/#post-5767446

Post automatically merged: Sunday at 9:04 PM

HAs there been EVER a truer true?

Being a df merchant has nothing to do with being a swordsman
It also isn’t a term which only 1 fandom uses

 

[Jiihad]

Fujitora was literally introduced as tha Boind swordsman’s in his official Viz translation, so if you’re gonna group em with law and Shanks. You have to acknowledge them as swordsmen too and are by definition weaker than Mihawk

 

[kekaro]

Being a df merchant has nothing to do with being a swordsman

Like I showed you this was not my point.
I just find it incredibly whiny to whine about laws or fujis fanbase (shanks I didn't say anything cause its true) cause they are often call df merchants to say they have weak haki and hence swordsmanship cause they could never be true haki man and wss, hence true swordsman

Especially funny in Fujis case there was a mountain of people, guess which fanbase, that didn't even believe Fujitora had a supreme grade blade cause he was Df merchant which make it funnier.

This threads point is to whine about fanbases mind you, so is not like I'm derailing any objective discussion

It also isn’t a term which only 1 fandom uses

So isn't condom but we know which one does use it predominantly

 

[Ven437]

Law is a DF-based swordsman with no interest in the WSS title, just like Roger could have cared less about the WSM title held by Primebeard

Until/unless Zoro defeats Law in an actual 1v1 then Zoro will never be truly above Law. Oda is making sure of that

 

[Blax Blah]

Law is a DF-based swordsman with no interest in the WSS title, just like Roger could have cared less about the WSM title held by Primebeard

Until/unless Zoro defeats Law in an actual 1v1 then Zoro will never be truly above Law. Oda is making sure of that

Maybe so, but if Law doesn't care about the world's strongest swordsman title, then we may not see them fight, but I would love to see them train together,

 

[Germinator]

Fujitora was literally introduced as tha Boind swordsman’s in his official Viz translation, so if you’re gonna group em with law and Shanks. You have to acknowledge them as swordsmen too and are by definition weaker than Mihawk

Yeah this argument would work if the argument was Fuji, Law and Zoro aren't swordsmen lol

But it's not, it's that they are swordsmen and Mihawk is stronger than them as swordsmen, but they are also fruit-users and the WSS title doesn't apply for fruit users

 

[Guymieux]

WSSM is about sword skill

As Brannew said, Mihawk has greater sword skill than Shanks. Mihawk was never said to be stronger than Shanks.

If he was, then why didn’t the WG give Mihawk or Buggy higher bounties than Shanks?

Sword skill, as explained by Koshiro, is the ability to cut what one desires and protect what one desires.

Shanks, Law, and Fujitora are all swordsmen. But they have significant other abilities that go beyond the realm of swordsmanship. This is why Shanks and Fujitora aren’t rivals of Mihawk and Law isn’t Zoro’s rival.

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You would think that Mihawk would be eager to defeat a yonko with a higher bounty than him, but he isn’t

Same with Law and Zoro. If Law was actually Zoro’s rival, you’d think Zoro would challenge him. But he doesn’t.

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It’s because using DF powers or CoC energy beams isn’t swordsmanship, even if those guys are swordsmen.

In terms of raw swordsmanship, Zoro is already better than Law. Hence Zoro can scar Kaido but Law can’t. Scarring Kaido requires sword skill.

However Law can break BM’s bones and ultimately defeat her 2v1. Something Zoro didn’t do. But damaging BM via DF shockwaves isn’t sword skill.

Stick to soap. Vs poop you idiot

 

[Jiihad]

Yeah this argument would work if the argument was Fuji, Law and Zoro aren't swordsmen lol

But it's not, it's that they are swordsmen and Mihawk is stronger than them as swordsmen, but they are also fruit-users and the WSS title doesn't apply for fruit users

……LMFAO!!! **** What!?

 

[NexusLord]

I think Devil Fruits and swordsmanship conflict with each other in terms of innate knowledge and that is a strange subject that only someone like me would care for. I believe that it's swordsmanship purists that become the strongest swordsmen because they adhere only to a style of swordsmanship. This grants them higher tiers of swordsmanship abilities that would otherwise be inaccessible to them because they decided to not focus on swordsmanship and focus on something else instead. If a sword god exists, then I would say it would likely stop favoring a swordsman if they had made this decision, and as a result they would become "disqualified" from becoming WSS. It is necessary to focus on swordsmanship only or the sword god abandons you, basically.

This is just crazy speculation, though lol

This implies that if someone uses Conqueror's Haki that it may conflict with the innate knowledge of a swordsman as well. This is because Conqueror's Haki high tier applications include things like crowd controlling effects. This crowd controlling effect may conflict with the decision-making a swordsman uses - a swordsman would just cut them down instead of try to control them. As a result, the user may have to make a decision between either following the Path of a Conqueror or the Path of a Swordsman because a swordsman purist won't use the same decision-making process that a conqueror will.