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This is why I never got into Hajime. I strongly suspect it would have great appeal to me, but I am a big believer in endings and leaving the audience wanting more.
That ride seems to never want to stop. Same with Jojo, though that’s easier to follow with the anime being a fun time.
It reads as though you still very much enjoy Kingdom and don’t think it’s actually declined.
They asked me cause I’ve been bitching and complaining for the better part of year straight.
That ride seems to never want to stop. Same with Jojo, though that’s easier to follow with the anime being a fun time.
It reads as though you still very much enjoy Kingdom and don’t think it’s actually declined.
They asked me cause I’ve been bitching and complaining for the better part of year straight.
Haku'Ou Koku just doesn't look that formidable to me and I'm not interested in seeing him put a fight against Shin.
Weren’t you the one who wanted Shin to beat Hakuokoku??? Lmfao
Join the Yoko Yoko gang before it’s too late. Lol
But nah, Tou is about to end this battle before Shin gets a serious fight. There is zero incentive for either Yoko Yoko or Hakuokoku to come within proximity of Shin.
Oh yeah that ain’t happening lol. If Shin can’t dominate Rokuomi in simulation, he’s not dominating Hakuokoku in an actual battle. Honestly at Shin’s current level, unless Hakuokoku charges out to fight Shin personally, Shin is needing several days to beat this guy.
It’s like I said. Rakuakan’s level as a general is going to be roughly Tou level, best case scenario. In all likelihood he is weaker than Tou overall.
Hakuokoku is even lower than that, as a warrior he may actually be solid but as a general he is even below Rakuakan.
Yoko Yoko is Shin’s only hope for a legit battle this arc. He can be as strong as a warrior as Hara wants him to be, even if as a commander he is weaker than Hakuokoku. As a warrior he is clearly going to be some nutty shit, an opponent only worthy of Shin. I don’t think he’d make an entertaining opponent for Rei or Kai.
It’s like I said. Rakuakan’s level as a general is going to be roughly Tou level, best case scenario. In all likelihood he is weaker than Tou overall.
Hakuokoku is even lower than that, as a warrior he may actually be solid but as a general he is even below Rakuakan.
Yoko Yoko is Shin’s only hope for a legit battle this arc. He can be as strong as a warrior as Hara wants him to be, even if as a commander he is weaker than Hakuokoku. As a warrior he is clearly going to be some nutty shit, an opponent only worthy of Shin. I don’t think he’d make an entertaining opponent for Rei or Kai.
Do you think Shin has ever struck someone like this in training?
I do not share this confidence in the abilities of any general that hasn't been busy busy in the past decade.
I thought he looked reasonably formidable in his debut chapter, figured he'd be somewhere between Ba Tei and Shou Mou in terms of martial ability.
Now, I dunno about you, but he just seems to me like a relative scrub, and I'm not interested in seeing Shin struggle against someone at that level - if that's what it is.
Shin has nothing to prove martially.
Yoko Yoko does little for him or the HSU in terms of bouncing back from their back to back Ls with major achievements in the Han campaign. Haku may seem like a scrub to me, but he is nevertheless Han's Second General. That matters a great deal more than any enforcer type adjutant like Yoko Yoko.
I do not share this confidence in the abilities of any general that hasn't been busy busy in the past decade.
I thought he looked reasonably formidable in his debut chapter, figured he'd be somewhere between Ba Tei and Shou Mou in terms of martial ability.
Now, I dunno about you, but he just seems to me like a relative scrub, and I'm not interested in seeing Shin struggle against someone at that level - if that's what it is.
Shin has nothing to prove martially.
Yoko Yoko does little for him or the HSU in terms of bouncing back from their back to back Ls with major achievements in the Han campaign. Haku may seem like a scrub to me, but he is nevertheless Han's Second General. That matters a great deal more than any enforcer type adjutant like Yoko Yoko.
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I don't know if I would mind but I do think Kingdom has been a little naive as of late.
To me, it'd be more interesting if resentment for the casualties and heroes lost to fighting the Qin were made part of the early struggles in integrating the Han army - especially for Shin, who I presume will be getting more experience in commanding massive armies.
Fair enough.
Same thing that happened to Kan Pi Shi. A comfortable prison and a cup of poison.
To me, it'd be more interesting if resentment for the casualties and heroes lost to fighting the Qin were made part of the early struggles in integrating the Han army - especially for Shin, who I presume will be getting more experience in commanding massive armies.
Fair enough.
Same thing that happened to Kan Pi Shi. A comfortable prison and a cup of poison.
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Doesn’t really matter outside of a 1v1 scenario lol. Which like I said, Shin’s level of weight isn’t amazingly relevant in terms of deciding the outcome of a battle unless he is directly facing an enemy commander. And the odds of Hakuokoku being dumb enough to personally pick a fight with Shin are low. Proper tactics can still counter Shin’s martial ability.
Shin wasn’t responsible for either of those defeats. He has nothing to bounce back from lol.
Shin wasn’t responsible for either of those defeats. He has nothing to bounce back from lol.
i meant Han King
i do wonder if Hara will have that shown onpanel
Also, regarding Raku and Moubu's secret bastard...
i do wonder if Hara will have that shown onpanel
Also, regarding Raku and Moubu's secret bastard...
i do believe there was a revolt in Han a few years after the Zhao conquest. So maybe they'll be left alive, and they'll end up leading it. Maybe that will "worsen" Sei's insanity if Hara goes down that rout,e and make Shin more disillusioned with unification
A Shin VS Haku'Ou 1v1 is what I'm expecting will happen. If it does, I am rooting for Shin to score an overwhelming victory or to basically beat him into submission.
Take it up with Shin then, I guess.
I understood fine. 
I've got some ideas on what might happen with the Han king.
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Take it up with Shin then, I guess.
i meant Han King
i do wonder if Hara will have that shown onpanel
i do wonder if Hara will have that shown onpanel
I've got some ideas on what might happen with the Han king.
Acknowleding history spoilers:
I'll say this has been on my mind for a minute.
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A Shin VS Haku'Ou 1v1 is what I'm expecting will happen. If it does, I am rooting for Shin to score an overwhelming victory or to basically beat him into submission.
Take it up with Shin then, I guess.
I understood fine.
I've got some ideas on what might happen with the Han king.
Acknowleding history spoilers:
Take it up with Shin then, I guess.
I understood fine.
I've got some ideas on what might happen with the Han king.
Acknowleding history spoilers:
I'll say this has been on a mind my mind for a minute.
the kings of Kingdom are a group of characters that I wish Hara elaborated more on outside of Qi and Zhao's kings.
Kouretsu had a pretty formidable presence, wish we saw more of him and Shunshinkun.
Yan's King looks formidable and I expect he'll have an unpleasant ending.
Wei's king got some characterization, he was fanboying over Rinko. I hope we see Chu's young king and the uncle.
Going into history spoilers:
It's really just an unfortunate sympton of a great issue: Hara's bizarre disengagement with worldbuilding.
Granted, the historical records are far from robust, but Kingdom has always been a fictionalised retelling of history, not a 1:1 adaptation. The negative space is there to be used a blank canvas, and Hara has certainly used much of it in the early days of setting up the world of Kingdom, but he's really taken his foot off in the gas in this department.
I've been saying for some time the worldbuilding of Kingdom is extremely wanting, and I believe that has dire consequences in terms of restricting storytelling potential. It's like Hara worked on this immense tapestry for years and then swapped to cheaper materials to be more budget conscience (time). It's not worth it.
We should know who these kings are. We should know what makes the kingdoms different culturally beyond the superficial differences in aesthetics. We know should know a hell of a lot more of the innerworking and views of the other courts. It would only add much needed texture and reasons to give a shit.
The long and short of it is that I expect the Qin to pacify Han rather peacefully at first and deal with rebellion down the line.
I'm not sure if the royal family will continue to rule in the capacity of vassals or a governor will be installed - that may or may not be Tou from the outset - but in any event I anticipate rebels will rise when it appears their moment is at hand. The rebels may be sponsored by Chu and/or Wei, but I expect them to be quickly routed and a Sei that's edging towards breaking bad completely have the former king of Han executed at that point if he's still alive, and to the protest of both Shin and Tou.
I'm not sure if the royal family will continue to rule in the capacity of vassals or a governor will be installed - that may or may not be Tou from the outset - but in any event I anticipate rebels will rise when it appears their moment is at hand. The rebels may be sponsored by Chu and/or Wei, but I expect them to be quickly routed and a Sei that's edging towards breaking bad completely have the former king of Han executed at that point if he's still alive, and to the protest of both Shin and Tou.
It's really just an unfortunate sympton of a great issue: Hara's bizarre disengagement with worldbuilding.
Granted, the historical records are far from robust, but Kingdom has always been a fictionalised retelling of history, not a 1:1 adaptation. The negative space is there to be used a blank canvas, and Hara has certainly used much of it in the early days of setting up the world of Kingdom, but he's really taken his foot off in the gas in this department.
I've been saying for some time the worldbuilding of Kingdom is extremely wanting, and I believe that has dire consequences in terms of restricting storytelling potential. It's like Hara worked on this immense tapestry for years and then swapped to cheaper materials to be more budget conscience (time). It's not worth it.
We should know who these kings are. We should know what makes the kingdoms different culturally beyond the superficial differences in aesthetics. We know should know a hell of a lot more of the innerworking and views of the other courts. It would only add much needed texture and reasons to give a shit.
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