Controversial Phinks vs Uvogin - Strongest Enhancer in the Phantom Troupe

[SkySanji]

A feat for someone can be an anti-feat for his opponent
The scene was obviously created to hype up shadow beasts
But end of the day it still de-hypes uvo’s durability .

shadow beasts were portrayed as hype tools for spiders
There is no way that porcupine guy can damage uvogin while an enhancer like phinx can’t

it’s simply ridiculous

How does it de-hype his durability? The Shadow Beasts were just that strong, which is why multiple members of the Phantom Troupe were impressed.

I didn't say Phinks can't damage Uvogin lmfao and neither did the guy you responded to, he said that Phinks base punches which the fodder ant face tanked can't seriously damage Uvogin, and he's right, the low tier ants are a joke, Gon killed one just by crushing it without his hatsu.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Troupe is completely fodder outside of Uvogin, Chrollo, Hisoka, Feitan

 

[MonsterKaido]

Troupe is completely fodder outside of Uvogin, Chrollo, Hisoka, Feitan

Yeah. The above 4 are/were special. Others are decent I will say even high average hunters like morel can beat others.

 

[Shiroyru]

Troupe is completely fodder outside of Uvogin, Chrollo, Hisoka, Feitan

The Phinks disrespect is crazy. He’s literally Feitan’s partner

 

[Warine]

Uvogin is the heaviest hitter from the pt in most case scenario (yes it includes chrollo)

 

[zenox]

How does it de-hype his durability? The Shadow Beasts were just that strong, which is why multiple members of the Phantom Troupe were impressed.

I didn't say Phinks can't damage Uvogin lmfao and neither did the guy you responded to, he said that Phinks base punches which the fodder ant face tanked can't seriously damage Uvogin, and he's right, the low tier ants are a joke, Gon killed one just by crushing it without his hatsu.

My argument was comparing that gorilla ant and uvo’s durability

And it seems like that ant is more durable
Case closed

 

[SkySanji]

My argument was comparing that gorilla ant and uvo’s durability

And it seems like that ant is more durable
Case closed

Based on what...? Uvogin has the far superior durability feats to that fodder ant lmao

 

[zenox]

Based on what...? Uvogin has the far superior durability feats to that fodder ant lmao

Based on the stuff I posted earlier…
If u think that porcupine has greater enhancement than phinx then u do u

 

[SkySanji]

Based on the stuff I posted earlier…
If u think that porcupine has greater enhancement than phinx then u do u

You posted literally nothing for the ant though, not that you could since it's featless trash, not even a Squadron Leader lmao

So argument from incredulity it is then, Phinks basic punch being > Shadow Beasts hatsu is just something you pulled out of your ass, not supported by anything at all

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

chimera ants are insanely durable
that gorilla can easily be more durable than uvo,
uvo's durability isn't that crazy

True, but it doesn't mean that Phinks' simple punches would do much to Uvogin. He probably would need at least a decent amount of aura to hurt Uvo (which would leave his defenses weakened). As @SkySanji commented, the troupe complimented the Shadow Beasts for being able to hurt Uvo, they were actually pretty good in regards to their extremely specific hatsus.

It isn't confirmed, but Rabid Dog is listed as an enhancer in two databooks and Porcupine is listed as a transmuter. An injuring cheap shot from another enhancer, in a 3v1 battle, even if he's considerably less skilled than Uvo, isn't weird. As for Porcupine, he apparently didn't directly damage Uvo's hands, he just dampened the attack... after that, he circumvented his arm with his hair to pierce it. His cushioning capability was probably pretty good, since he was confident about blocking anything that Uvo could throw at him just after he used his Big Bang Impact.

Just for clarification, I don't think that Uvo would wipe the floor with Phinks (or any of the top members of the troupe for that matter)... it would be probably a crippling battle for both of them IMO. I just don't think that Phinks' hatsu would be good against someone like Uvo. (Btw, people sleep on Nobunaga but he might be the strongest enhancer* of the troupe. In a fight against Uvo or Phinks, no holds barred, I'd give him the advantage.)

* Nobu is listed as an enhancer just in the databooks and other non-canonical sources, he might be a transmuter actually.

 

[zenox]

True, but it doesn't mean that Phinks' simple punches would do much to Uvogin. He probably would need at least a decent amount of aura to hurt Uvo (which would leave his defenses weakened). As @SkySanji commented, the troupe complimented the Shadow Beasts for being able to hurt Uvo, they were actually pretty good in regards to their extremely specific hatsus.

It isn't confirmed, but Rabid Dog is listed as an enhancer in two databooks and Porcupine is listed as a transmuter. An injuring cheap shot from another enhancer, in a 3v1 battle, even if he's considerably less skilled than Uvo, isn't weird. As for Porcupine, he apparently didn't directly damage Uvo's hands, he just dampened the attack... after that, he circumvented his arm with his hair to pierce it. His cushioning capability was probably pretty good, since he was confident about blocking anything that Uvo could throw at him just after he used his Big Bang Impact.

Just for clarification, I don't think that Uvo would wipe the floor with Phinks (or any of the top members of the troupe for that matter)... it would be probably a crippling battle for both of them IMO. I just don't think that Phinks' hatsu would be good against someone like Uvo. (Btw, people sleep on Nobunaga but he might be the strongest enhancer* of the troupe. In a fight against Uvo or Phinks, no holds barred, I'd give him the advantage.)

* Nobu is listed as an enhancer just in the databooks and other non-canonical sources, he might be a transmuter actually.

We really dont know what that dog and porcupine used tho ( if it was their hatsu )
My main argument was just abt their durability , I have uvo above phinx but there is no way uvo won’t get damaged by phinx’ punch like that gorilla
Shadow beasts are meant to be good nen users in that instance , they can enhance their teeth and hair to the point that it can even pierce uvogin
And in this area , phinx should be leagues above them since he is also an enhancer .

 

[Chrono]

That's a feat for the Shadow Beasts, not an antifeat for Uvogin, even Feitan was impressed as shown in the page you posted.

You could say the same thing for the gorrila ant easily tanking Phinks base punch ?

 

[SkySanji]

You could say the same thing for the gorrila ant easily tanking Phinks base punch ?

No you can't say that because both Phinks base punch and the ants durability are entirely featless outside of that instance, Uvogin's durability has insane feats and hype outside of the Shadow Beasts instance.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Uvo was stronger in base. But Ripper cyclotron is insanely broken depending on its limits. I think Phinks takes it.

 

[Chrono]

No you can't say that because both Phinks base punch and the ants durability are entirely featless outside of that instance, Uvogin's durability has insane feats and hype outside of the Shadow Beasts instance.

What insane base feats does it have ?

 

[SkySanji]

What insane base feats does it have ?

He no sold a tank destroying missile as well as sniper shots and other guns and Feitan states that he has the strongest body out of all the Phantom Troupe, meaning his durability and strength > all of theirs including Phinks.

What feats does Phinks base punch have? None? It's fodder.

 

[Chrono]

He no sold a tank destroying missile as well as sniper shots and other guns and Feitan states that he has the strongest body out of all the Phantom Troupe, meaning his durability and strength > all of theirs including Phinks.

What feats does Phinks base punch have? None? It's fodder.

He used nen for that. Couldve possibly even been his hatsu since it envolops his entire body like that. Base Uvogin with no nen enhancement would not be able to tank that.

Phinks is the second strongest PT member and his base punch doesnt hurt the gorrila.

 

[SkySanji]

He used nen for that. Couldve possibly even been his hatsu since it envolops his entire body like that. Base Uvogin with no nen enhancement would not be able to tank that.

Phinks is the second strongest PT member and his base punch doesnt hurt the gorrila.

Why would I be ignoring Uvogin's nen lmfao? And no, Uvogin's durability has nothing to do with hatsu.

Right and his basic punch ain't doing shit to Uvogin.

 

[Chrono]

Why would I be ignoring Uvogin's nen lmfao? And no, Uvogin's durability has nothing to do with hatsu.

Right and his basic punch ain't doing shit to Uvogin.

Because we dont know if Phinks used Nen in his original punch.

 

[SkySanji]

Because we dont know if Phinks used Nen in his original punch.

His basic nen punches are just as featless as his non nen punches, so it's irrelevant.