Character Discussion Why do you think ZBoys are in such denial about Green Bull having a black blade?

GB having a black blade would prove 2 things.

1. You don’t need ACoC, or even just CoC, to unlock a black blade. It’s either a CoA feat or special conditions need to be met beyond just raw powerlevel.

2. Having a black blade doesn’t automatically place you above people without one since obviously Shanks and Roger are > GB
Him having a BB Is exactly want should led you to believe he has CoC lol.
 
To be fair when Ace walked around drum island it didn’t snow for a whole day. That’s likely not a sign of awakening.
I cannot disagree with this.

But my intuition is still leaning towards Greenbull being a DF main with awakening.

If he is not, it'll be more acceptable for me that he is a black blade forger.

Oden’s best in verse feat was replicated by the same Zolo who got Ping ponged across Onigashima by Queen’s equal. Not even sure why you would believe Kaido lol. It’s not like Kaido ever actually fought anyone stronger than pre Gear 5 Luffy.
Zoro wasn't ping ponged the moment he uses advCOC.
King isn't Queen's equal.
King was actually afraid of KOH Zoro.
That's why King flew away and gave everything in his last attack as a last hail mary, even his lunarian fire defense.

Laughable. Oden would do more damage to pre-Gear 5 Luffy than Kaido. Even G5 Luffy was getting cut with Kaido's non-haki wind slashes.

Enma only required AdCoC because it is a cursed blade. Cursed blades are very rare. Mihawk taught Zolo how to make a black blade but Mihawk didn’t tell Zolo AdCoC was required.
Law's sword is cursed.
Same with Sandai Kitetsu.
They didn't require advCOC.

Also, by the blacksmith himself. "Cursed" means a sign of great quality.

There's a reason why the top 1 strongest blade among the Supreme 12 is a black blade.

Green Bull hasn’t been defeated at any point in his life so far as we know. So speculating who he may lose to if he even loses to anyone is pointless, first of all.

Secondly there are several non black blade users who would body Mihawk and Ryuma, having a black blade doesn’t make you top 3 lmfao.
We have no information whether Green Bull has no defeats. Stop lol.

Well maybe it is pointless to you. Not pointless to me since it's clear he isn't the final big bad villain. He isn't even Fleet Admiral.

Yet Ryuma wasn't defeated by the WG, the group that defeated arguably one of the top 2 in the verse in Joyboy.

Mihawk also has never been defeated. Not even to Shanks, Roger's prodigy who wifi-diffed Aramaki.

"Having a black blade" is different from forging one. Seriously? Zoro had a black blade lol.

Green Bull has superior Haki to Oden and Kaido, not even sure how you could possibly argue those bums have Admiral level Haki.
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Bro is reading a manga where the most likely final villain is an awakened Zoan with AdCoC and immortality but apparently a black blade user and awakened user would be stronger than an immortal demon lord? lol
Except I never said stronger.

Not even Kaido was given awakening by the author.

Yet you think a mere admiral will be given both being a logia awakening and being a black blade forger.

Well congratulations, every single sentence you typed was just hilariously incorrect.
Says the fool.


I'd welcome Aramaki being a black blade forger though, if he actually is, and would be one of my top fav chars. But until proven, I'd rather assume if his blade is a black blade, then it is inherited instead.
 
I dont know why the Admiral fans want GB to have a BB so much. At least before the BB he would not come under the WSS title, now for damn sure he will be weaker than WSS.

And this would hype Mihawk even more, an Admiral with a Logia (likely awakened) and haki so strong to forge a BB and yet is still weaker than Mihawk, just kind of an otherworldly monster fighter is Mihawk. At least Ryuma, the OG BB forger is not from this era so he is safe from the WSS.

People weaker than Mihawk:
1. Pirates - Shanks, Oden, Rocks, Roger
2. Gorosei - Venus, Garling
3. Marines - Fujitora, GreenBull

People safe from WSS curse:
1. Pirates - Kaido, WB (not that much since he is equal to Roger), BB (Fatpedofuck still a bum)
2. Gorosei - Warcury, Mars, Peter (by extension they are also weaker)
3. Marines - Akainu, Kizaru (by extension they are also weaker)
4. Revs - Dragon (safe)
 
I dont know why the Admiral fans want GB to have a BB so much. At least before the BB he would not come under the WSS title, now for damn sure he will be weaker than WSS.

And this would hype Mihawk even more, an Admiral with a Logia (likely awakened) and haki so strong to forge a BB and yet is still weaker than Mihawk, just kind of an otherworldly monster fighter is Mihawk. At least Ryuma, the OG BB forger is not from this era so he is safe from the WSS.
It's not about "want." GB's sword's visual design matches known black blades perfectly. Personally I acknowledge that that only helps Mihawk, most importantly because it demonstrates at least one other living person besides his disciple in the op-verse actually gives a crap about it. It's always been confusing for me why the concept has gotten swordbois' panties in such a bunch. Probably ties back to Sanji vs Zolo in some convoluted way as was alluded to earlier in the thread.
 
It's not about "want." GB's sword's visual design matches known black blades perfectly. Personally I acknowledge that that only helps Mihawk, most importantly because it demonstrates at least one other living person besides his disciple in the op-verse actually gives a crap about it. It's always been confusing for me why the concept has gotten swordbois' panties in such a bunch. Probably ties back to Sanji vs Zolo in some convoluted way as was alluded to earlier in the thread.
Personally I don't want it because it seemed that Shanks haki forced GB out of or stopped him from using his DF and tht coupled with his overreaction doesn't sit well with me. Look at the other 2 BB forgers, and I think no sane fan can imagine Ryuma and Mihawk to act the way GB did.

That's my main issue and then you have to think how insufferable the Shanks Top1 crowd is going to get, they already deny the manga but now they will have a feat against a BB forger.

Sometimes I think the Admiral fans are just being petty, Shanks did GB bad so they want not only themselves to suffer but also drag the swordbros down with them. Just to clarify I don't hate Shanks, I rank him just below Mihawk and stronger than everyone else. IIRC they have been called the strongest of rivals in Road to LT Mag and with recent info that Shanks could copy DD around 15 years age hypes this shit.
 
This sums up all the nonsense about twerkbull kokuto clinging on to Mihawk to soften the blow is hilarious. Fandom who have been victim of yonko for ages so the desperation is somewhat understandable :suresure:
Sure :suresure:.
Just the most recent: Akainu above any Emperor, Kizaru saving one, Fuji Saijo, and Aramaki BB.

And in some days we are going to see his black Blade again. No wonde the denial.
 
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Because an Admiral accomplishing Zoro's endgame goal and everything that makes Mihawk who he is, as a side ability he doesn't give a damn about exposes Mihawk and Ryuma as the frauds they are.

Tick Tock bum @L57 Ryokugyu in the colored volume is coming.
This is just the same reason why you and other Zoro haters also want the same. Because it shits on Zoro .

Unfortunately for you, as shitty as current Oda's writing is, he wouldn't make the dream of the 2nd most important SH a fraud.

But go on with the agenda and keep coping along with the other haters. Gonna age like milk when the time comes
 
This is just the same reason why you and other Zoro haters also want the same. Because it shits on Zoro .

Unfortunately for you, as shitty as current Oda's writing is, he wouldn't make the dream of the 2nd most important SH a fraud.

But go on with the agenda and keep coping along with the other haters. Gonna age like milk when the time comes
The only one on who this shit is the one who thought Admirals weren't absolutely top tier even after Kuzan, Akainu and Kizaru.

BTW, our bet is fullfilled if even the colored manga, after the actual manga and the VCs, show it is a Black blade?

Personally I don't want it because it seemed that Shanks haki forced GB out of or stopped him from using his DF and tht coupled with his overreaction doesn't sit well with me. Look at the other 2 BB forgers, and I think no sane fan can imagine Ryuma and Mihawk to act the way GB did.
That is just a type of character. We just had Imu + all Gorosei doing worse against an haki that was hyped to be comparable. As always, no one but an eye for them, but for GB Is a problem.
Same for BB btw.

That's my main issue and then you have to think how insufferable the Shanks Top1 crowd is going to get, they already deny the manga but now they will have a feat against a BB forger.
This Is simply agneda. Now and before.

As I said, the two greates clowns are MC and almost final enemies and do faces and reactions all the time.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Akainu above any Emperor
Not a thing.
We all saw how old Garp treats Akainu's equal...

Luffy being Luffy, cant blame Emperors for it.

Nothing weird about it.

Unconfirmed.

Admiralbros are sabotaging themselves for who knows which time.
It was funny before but now it is just painful to watch.
They don't realize that they are Sanjibros of the end game...
 
Not a thing.
We all saw how old Garp treats Akainu's equal...
Beating him while wavering and without even really using the fruit?

Yeah, that's why Akainu has a 5B bounty and his above any Emperor.

Luffy being Luffy, cant blame Emperors for it.
Sure, the Emperors are Emperors as long as don't do something against the agenda.

Nothing weird about it.
Still, before for swordfans Saijo were the mark of excellency; the moment Fujitora got one suddenly it didn't meant much anymore.

Unconfirmed.
1) Ryo full image (twice, confirmed in volume):





1.2) OP day:


VC:


+ What we are going to see in the official colored manga.

Is this is really going to be Kizaru fed Luffy 2.0, where all the people with actual eyes and no agenda could tell it was Kizaru but we had to wait for Oda to state the obvious because agenda is agenda and people refused to concede even in front of the manga?
 
The only one on who this shit is the one who thought Admirals weren't absolutely top tier even after Kuzan, Akainu and Kizaru.

BTW, our bet is fullfilled if even the colored manga, after the actual manga and the VCs, show it is a Black blade?
It absolutely does shit on Zoro's dream if somebody forged a black blade as a side job.
Imagine somebody becoming PK as a side job when they were actually trying to do something else, or imagine if somebody fulfill Ohara's destiny by accident, or somebody found the cure of all diseases as a side job. Won't that be shitting on Luffy, Robin, Chopper?

Greenbull's lack of aura is just icing on the cake. Shanks doing what he did, to someone who forged black blade would just be giga disrespectful.

Bet is fulfilled if we get confirmation that Greenbull forged a black blade, not by some manga colouring.
If confirmed, you win the bet.
If the opposite is confirmed, or if greenbull's story is finished without any confirmation, I think it would be fair to say I won the bet.
 
This sums up all the nonsense about twerkbull kokuto clinging on to Mihawk to soften the blow is hilarious. Fandom who have been victim of yonko for ages so the desperation is somewhat understandable :suresure:
They are totally becoming the Sanjifans of the top tiers, since we cant get to the top, lets drag others down with us. On one hand they will say Sanji = Zoro and then also shit on Zoros feats, like how the fuck does this happen, lets bring the benchmark lower.
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The only one on who this shit is the one who thought Admirals weren't absolutely top tier even after Kuzan, Akainu and Kizaru.

BTW, our bet is fullfilled if even the colored manga, after the actual manga and the VCs, show it is a Black blade?



That is just a type of character. We just had Imu + all Gorosei doing worse against an haki that was hyped to be comparable. As always, no one but an eye for them, but for GB Is a problem.
Same for BB btw.



This Is simply agneda. Now and before.

As I said, the two greates clowns are MC and almost final enemies and do faces and reactions all the time.
Bro I don't care about Gorosrei, BB, Luffy, BM etc. they are not Ryuma or Mihawk.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Beating him while wavering and without even really using the fruit?

Yeah, that's why Akainu has a 5B bounty and his above any Emperor.
The fruit doesn't help against hakimen... He caught him into Ice Ball and it did nothing...
One burst of haki and Aokiji's fruit is neutralized completely... Same for Akainu.
Akainu is worth 5bil because of his job, not because of his strength.

Sure, the Emperors are Emperors as long as don't do something against the agenda.
It is just Luffy and Buggy, they ruin the good name of anything they join.
Warlord, Emperor, you name it. If they joined Navy and became Admirals, they would ruin their name as well.
Whitebeard, Kaido, Shanks, Blackbeard are all top dogs of the show. The only lame name among them is BM.
Even with her, the portrayal of handful of strongest is there. Admirals arent those guys.

Still, before for swordfans Saijo were the mark of excellency; the moment Fujitora got one suddenly it didn't meant much anymore.
Probably, I was never one of those tho.
Always considered Fujitora one of two strongest Admirals alongside Kizaru.

+ What we are going to see in the official colored manga.
Sure, it looks like a duck, talks like a duck so it must be a duck.
But this is master baiter Oda we are talking about.
Drawing a sword, seemingly black without a Scabbard with one purpose - to show it being black, is obvious bait.
After what he did with Who's Who's sword, we shouldn't fall for such baits.

This is really going to be Kizaru fed Luffy 2.0, where all the people with actual eyes and no agenda could tell it was Kizaru because there were thousand hints but we had to wait for Oda to state the obvious because agenda is agenda and people refused to concede even in front of the manga?
I have eyes and had no agenda and still couldn't tell it was Kizaru...
And I am a guy who loves dirt on Luffy... It simply wasn't obvious. Those who guessed it, good for them.
In the case of this really being a black blade on GB, good for him. We will see what he does with it.
I simply doubt Green Bull will be listed among Ryuma, Mihawk and Zoro.
 
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