General & Others Ryokugyu didn’t forge a black blade

[Sentinel]

@Reborn

I also don't get the disapproval from the majority of the Z fandom when Aramaki could be perfectly made into a formidable opponent for a stronger Zoro who would blacken at least one of his swords to get the W. He's an admiral ffs, these characters are at the top food chain of the One Piece world.

We have several moments of Aramaki's blade looking like a BB and @Dragon777 really brought up lots of arguments for that.

 

[Dream]

Simple Ryokugyu painted his sword until we get confirmation just like his idol Mihawk

Spoiler

 

[nik87]

At the end it depends how Aramaki's blade is gonna look like the next time we see it. If it's black again, that's basically the third moment. Or are you gonna wait till a statement confirms it? It's also alright, better playing save rather than looking like a fool at the end.

Was Ryuma's Shusui also directly confirmed as a black blade the first time we saw him? I don't remember exactly when it was confirmed.

It doesn't matter how it looks, what matters is what it is. It will look the same the next time we see it.
It cannot change appearance unless it somehow turns out to be a scabbard that has a pattern that is usually found on the blade itself.
It doesn't matter to me if its 3rd or 4th or 34th appearance, I need a direct statement that it is a Kokuto to have no doubts and I explained my reasons why there could be doubts - due to Oda being master baiter.
Other than that, it looks like Kokuto to me and I am ready to treat it as such with everything that comes with it - as I have mentioned in the other thread, which is lifting GB above all others.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Was Ryuma's Shusui also directly confirmed as a black blade the first time we saw him? I don't remember exactly when it was confirmed.

It got introduced as a black blade directly, also Yoru.
Also this :

> Black blade with hamon

> Aramaki had a black sheath in his movie cover " Roningai " with a white blade when he was shown in action :

> Blud thinks Fraud Bull said this while struggling with Morley:

 

[Reborn]

@Reborn

I also don't get the disapproval from the majority of the Z fandom when Aramaki could be perfectly made into a formidable opponent for a stronger Zoro who would blacken at least one of his swords to get the W. He's an admiral ffs, these characters are at the top food chain of the One Piece world.

We have several moments of Aramaki's blade looking like a BB and @Dragon777 really brought up lots of arguments for that.

Zoro vs GB was set in stone for a long time coz kiz isn't a swordsman for real and Fuji won't be fighting SHs seriously.


And, the reason it's hard to accept for some that GB has BB is simply one "Denial mechanism".

Regardless of the fandom we belong, we all have agendas. How we want to interpret the story, how we argue, our stance when it comes to PL is consciously or sub-consciously shaped by our agenda.

Mihawk haters still till this date see him as YC level despite we having clear evidences of him being around yonkou level.


Same goes for GB's blade - the denial coming from some is simply because of their overwanked agenda of Mihawk as Top 1 in a story in which Luffy is the MC. So, whenever that bubble would take a hit, resistance or denial would surface.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

When you ask Admirals fans, where's his black blade against Scabbards? Morley who he struggled against?
They stay silent, and evidently having a black blade means Green bull's a better swordman than Fujitora yet the later who's a confirmed swordman used his blade each time he fought, King who Shanks tards push as someone who isn't a swordman used his blade frequently to +90% of his Screen time.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Zoro vs GB was set in stone for a long time coz kiz isn't a swordsman for real and Fuji won't be fighting SHs seriously.

Sanji, will fight who?

 

[Sentinel]

When you ask Admirals fans, where's his black blade against Scabbards? Morley who he struggled against?

So is Reborn an admiral fan?

I don't get your constant argument of "Aramaki struggling vs Morley" when it's just your typical "high tier stalls a top tier for some time" moment. Mihawk also had it with Vista and many downplayers use it as a reason to downplay him. Big Mom was stalled by weak trio and humiliated by Franky and Robin. Jinbe even tossed her off the ship.

Yet it's unthinkable that an admiral possesses a BB when a high tier stalled him for some time?

 

[Reborn]

Sanji, will fight who?

He could fight kiz or no one

Thing is you have a clear swordsman here - Greenbull. Kiz isn't a swordman. He doesn't carry a sword


Also, throughput the egghead you got sanji and luffy clashing with kiz while not once oda brought Zoro against him to build any plot.

 

[Dragon777]

When you ask Admirals fans, where's his black blade against Scabbards? Morley who he struggled against?
They stay silent, and evidently having a black blade means Green bull's a better swordman than Fujitora yet the later who's a confirmed swordman used his blade each time he fought, King who Shanks tards push as someone who isn't a swordman used his blade frequently to +90% of his Screen time.

We have, and I have, answerd you plenty of times of this, quite the opposite of "silent".

The fact is you keep reposting the same question because you don't like the answer.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I feel weird being one of few Zoro/Mihawk fans here that isn't trying hard to prove Aramaki doesn't have a black blade
Tbh I don't even get it. We know Mihawk is confirmed to be above Issho (since Issho is a swordsman and Mihawk is the WSS) and Issho is relative to Aramaki, therefore Mihawk > Aramaki based off that alone.
This black blade stuff doesn't matter imo. It doesn't make him equal to Mihawk or above him in any way. It also doesn't make black blades less important. It just means he's stronger than we expected, and that's fine imo.

 

[Gyro]

I feel weird being one of few Zoro/Mihawk fans here that isn't trying hard to prove Aramaki doesn't have a black blade
Tbh I don't even get it. We know Mihawk is confirmed to be above Issho (since Issho is a swordsman and Mihawk is the WSS) and Issho is relative to Aramaki, therefore Mihawk > Aramaki based off that alone.
This black blade stuff doesn't matter imo. It doesn't make him equal to Mihawk or above him in any way. It also doesn't make black blades less important. It just means he's stronger than we expected, and that's fine imo.

oh yeah , Mihawk is confirmed to be above Issho since they both hold swords
its not like issho has a fruit , of course, and even if he did , that is irrelevant
THEY BOTH HOLDS SWORDS

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

oh yeah , Mihawk is confirmed to be above Issho since they both hold swords
its not like issho has a fruit , of course, and even if he did , that is irrelevant
THEY BOTH HOLDS SWORDS

Before I go off on you I just want to make sure, are you joking?

 

[Gyro]

Before I go off on you I just want to make sure, are you joking?

of course not , THEY BOTH HOLD SWORDS

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

of course not , THEY BOTH HOLD SWORDS

If you're being sarcastic then I just want to ask you, if someone is seen fighting with a sword in every single fight they're in, are they or are they not a swordsman?

 

[Gyro]

If you're being sarcastic then I just want to ask you, if someone is seen fighting with a sword in every single fight they're in, are they or are they not a swordsman?

where's the sarcasm ? THEY BOTH HOLD SWORDS so that makes mihawk automatically stronger regardless of fruits or haki or anything
heck even if issho had the 10 strongest fruits and joyboy level of haki he would still be weaker than mmihawk because THEY BOTH HOLD SWORDS

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

So is Reborn an admiral fan?

Did i say he's one?

I don't get your constant argument of "Aramaki struggling vs Morley" when it's just your typical "high tier stalls a top tier for some time" moment. Mihawk also had it with Vista and many downplayers use it as a reason to downplay him. Big Mom was stalled by weak trio and humiliated by Franky and Robin. Jinbe even tossed her off the ship.

Mihawk? he used his black blade to fight Vista

Big Mom? She got sneaked from behind by Jimbei and Franky.

Green Bull? He struggled against Morley in Tree form because he couldn't use its full potential with Celestial Dragons around him since it exudes great damage while doing so, yet this Elite swordman who advised Fujitora to not drop a meteor since it would do great damage chose to hold back his swordmanship who would do less damage than his DF.

Yet it's unthinkable that an admiral possesses a BB when a high tier stalled him for some time?

Basically you have nothing

He could fight kiz or no one

C3 > Fujitora / Green Bull, so you claim Sanji fighting someone stronger than Zoro's opponent.

Thing is you have a clear swordsman here - Greenbull. Kiz isn't a swordman. He doesn't carry a sword


Also, throughput the egghead you got sanji and luffy clashing with kiz while not once oda brought Zoro against him to build any plot.

Kizaru fights 2sd in command :

Ben beckman / Marco / Rayleigh

We have, and I have, answerd you plenty of times of this, quite the opposite of "silent".

The fact is you keep reposting the same question because you don't like the answer.

You have said nothing beside excuses.

 

[Reborn]

Did i say he's one?

Mihawk? he used his black blade to fight Vista

Big Mom? She got sneaked from behind by Jimbei and Franky.

Green Bull? He struggled against Morley in Tree form because he couldn't use its full potential with Celestial Dragons around him since it exudes great damage while doing so, yet this Elite swordman who advised Fujitora to not drop a meteor since it would do great damage chose to hold back his swordmanship who would do less damage than his DF.


Basically you have nothing


C3 > Fujitora / Green Bull, so you claim Sanji fighting someone stronger than Zoro's opponent.

Kizaru fights 2sd in command :

Ben beckman / Marco / Rayleigh

You have said nothing beside excuses.

Admirals aren't our regular pirate crew so that rule doesn't apply here.


We have Fleet Admiral who is the strongest

Then you have 3 admirals who are put at the same footing even in terms of bounties given by Oda.

Greenbull ~ Kiz ~ Fuji are at same spectrum.

Being C3 doesn't give you that hype anymore. Infact, if anyone has better hype right now then it's GB - a df with black blade ( his Shanks fiasco is often misinterpreted by yonkou fans because of agenda)

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Admirals aren't our regular pirate crew so that rule doesn't apply here.


We have Fleet Admiral who is the strongest

Then you have 3 admirals who are put at the same footing even in terms of bounties given by Oda.

Greenbull ~ Kiz ~ Fuji are at same spectrum.

Being C3 doesn't give you that hype anymore. Infact, if anyone has better hype right now then it's GB - a df with black blade ( his Shanks fiasco is often misinterpreted by yonkou fans because of agenda)

Fleet Admiral was decided after Akainu fought Kuzan and NOT Kizaru, so him being stronger than Kizaru is a headcanon.

C3 have better portrayal than someone like Fraud bull who got wifi diffed against Shanks.

 

[Reborn]

Fleet Admiral was decided after Akainu fought Kuzan and NOT Kizaru, so him being stronger than Kizaru is a headcanon.

C3 have better portrayal than someone like Fraud bull who got wifi diffed against Shanks.

Kizaru name never even came up for FA lmao

And, don't even tell me you think kiz is on par with Akainu ? This is absurd.


And, GB getting wifi diff hold as much weight as vista stalling Mihawk.