Controversial General Political Discussion

[Toby D. Dog]

The number of dead civilians is of secondary importance, what really matters is the future and the outcome of wars.

Bibi? That you?

 

[AL sama]

FYI I don’t.

ok then its whatever but the point is I didn't tell nameless to shut i[p for you

 

[Reborn]

ain't war always like this while its ongoing ?? no heroes no villains

There are always heroes and villains.

It's about where we lie ourselves.


In war between A and B,

People supporting A will see A as hero and B as villain
People supporting B will see A as villains and B as more like hero.

 

[Blax Blah]

bro you really don't know??

"
Is DNA showing the degree of relation a fact or an interpretation?

If it is an interpretation then I think it isn't true because if a common creator used the same laws of reality that He made, to make bodies for us, the same result would happen"

This is the entire quote of that topic, what do you mean by asking if I really don't know?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Bibi? That you?

No lol
I'm generally speaking. When no war means misery and oppression then war is necessary even if people die because eventually, everyone dies. Individual lives can be sacrificed for a better future.
My comment is more of a response to the casualty powerscalers that think ranking the evilness of wars/governments purely by the number of civilians killed is a good idea or even remotely makes sense.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

No lol
I'm generally speaking. When no war means misery and oppression then war is necessary even if people die because eventually, everyone dies. Individual lives can be sacrificed for a better future.
My comment is more of a response to the casualty powerscalers that think ranking the evilness of wars/governments purely by the number of civilians killed is a good idea or even remotely makes sense.

Mass numbers of casualties have consequences. That’s what Israel doesn’t understand. They’ll never know peace in their lifetime. They created a whole generation of people who despise them to no end. It only takes a handful of them in order to threaten their national security.

 

[AL sama]

"
Is DNA showing the degree of relation a fact or an interpretation?

If it is an interpretation then I think it isn't true because if a common creator used the same laws of reality that He made, to make bodies for us, the same result would happen"

This is the entire quote of that topic, what do you mean by asking if I really don't know?

I m asking you whether you really don't know if its a fact or interpretation

 

[Blax Blah]

I m asking you whether you really don't know if its a fact or interpretation

What I have seen makes it appear to be an interpretation, that if we share DNA, we have a common ancestor

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Yes but the issue here is that some people shit sling their assumptions and morals. Soyz for example thinks I'm defending Hamas and feels sorry for terrorists and child killers. All because I mentioned history.

I just want an explanation on how those correlate.

He still expects you to feel bad about the Israeli war machine tho. How is that fair? People like him expect you to dehumanize the Palestinians because of Hamas, but by that logic, the Israelis could also be dehumanized because of the idf.

the crux of their argument falls apart as soon as you realize they don’t see the Palestinians as equals.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Mass numbers of casualties have consequences. That’s what Israel doesn’t understand. They’ll never know peace in their lifetime. They created a whole generation of people who despise them to no end. It only takes a handful of them in order to threaten their national security.

Yes that's true. When they said every child is a potential terrorist or that there is no such thing as Palestinian civilians they forgot to mention the part that they'll do everything in their power to ensure this is how it'll turn out. Still not sure whether they're creating terrorists intentionally or whether they're too drunk on blood to see even 10 years into the future.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Yes that's true. When they said every child is a potential terrorist or that there is no such thing as Palestinian civilians they forgot to mention the part that they'll do everything in their power to ensure this is how it'll turn out. Still not sure whether they're creating terrorists intentionally or whether they're too drunk on blood to see even 10 years into the future.

I think they’re creating potential terrorist groups both inside and outside.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I think they’re creating potential terrorist groups both inside and outside.

Israeli terrorists you mean?

 

[AL sama]

There are always heroes and villains.

It's about where we lie ourselves.


In war between A and B,

People supporting A will see A as hero and B as villain
People supporting B will see A as villains and B as more like hero.

history books are written by winners and they decide who is hero who is villain

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Israeli terrorists you mean?

West Bank Palestinians and whatever remains of the Gazans when the dust settles.

 

[AL sama]

What I have seen makes it appear to be an interpretation, that if we share DNA, we have a common ancestor

how so??

we have our DNAs and fossils as proof

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

West Bank Palestinians.

I mean are they doing it on purpose? I can't wrap my head around their lack of foresight

 

[Uncle Van]

He still expects you to feel bad about the Israeli war machine tho. How is that fair? People like him expect you to dehumanize the Palestinians because of Hamas, but by that logic, the Israelis could also be dehumanized because of the idf.

the crux of their argument falls apart as soon as you realize they don’t see the Palestinians as equals.

I'm getting the vibe that he doesn't understand that every civilian in Palestine isn't a part of Hamas. If saying Israel is ethnically cleansing Palestine is the same as defending terrorists, he's implying that every civilian in Palestine is a terrorist and deserves no mercy.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I'm getting the vibe that he doesn't understand that every civilian in Palestine isn't a part of Hamas. If saying Israel is ethnically cleansing Palestine is the same as defending terrorists, he's implying that every civilian in Palestine is a terrorist and deserves no mercy.

Doesn’t know? Or doesn’t care?

 

[Soyz]

The left has always being anti-Israel, because of ideological reasons. It's not necessarily anti-semitism. But yeah, there are people here flying Hamas flags. It's crazy.

Depends on how left, in America moderate leftists aren't anti Israel, it's the extremists leftist who are and usually they have other extremists positions like anarchism, communism etc...

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

implying that every civilian in Palestine is a terrorist and deserves no mercy.

But this is what Netanyahu and his friends are saying to begin with

moderate leftists

..in America are still very much center

extremists leftist who are and usually they have other extremists positions like anarchism, communism etc..

Can you define anarchism? Or are you one of those guys that think anarchy=complete chaos?