Controversial General Political Discussion

[Monkey D Theories]

I could try to explain to you what colonialism and fascism are all about.. but I don't think you would listen.

Yes. The Israelian gov is aiming at the complete eradication of all gazans FROM Gaza and in some case even outside of it. This is not just a lubbie, this is a documented plan that they have demonstrated themselves under the argument of the hostage situation.

Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th

Israel invaded Gaza in response in order to defeat Hamas

Israel is surely committing war crimes in this effort. They are using collective punishment and siege warfare, killing as many people as possible in order to terrorize the Gazans into submission.

This is unethical, you could even argue it matches the UN criteria of genocide.

But it is not the same as a policy of extermination. For reference look at the Holocaust.
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If Hamas surrendered, the war would end

 

[Logiko]

If Hamas surrendered, the war would end

It's crazy how you are really repeating the propaganda of the appartheid state. No it would not. It would only allow Israel to annex Gaza and oppress Palestinian even more.

Israel invaded Gaza in order to annex it. Any researcher on colonization and international comitee understand that.

Israel is not just commiting war crime, it's commiting hundreds of war crimes, multiple crimes against humanity, an ethnic cleansing and a genocide. And this is WITHOUT even talking about the current oppression of Palestinian and arabs minorities in and out of Israel.

A politic of extermination doesn't necesarily need the extermination of all, it's a politic based on racism and ethnocentric values meant to get rid of an entire population in a area and push the rest to go away. Which is exactly what Israel is doing at the moment.

For the love of Usopp, learn about the history and the sociology of colonialism.

And understand that what Israel wants is an ETHNOSTATE.

 

[Mathias]

But it is not the same as a policy of extermination. For reference look at the Holocaust.

Nazi genocide isn’t the only genocide that happened in history. And for the record, dictators and whatnot know that and have been trying to massacre without massacring for decades. For reference, search for all the thinking and theories that were written about air strikes. Especially the ones on civilians or to be more precise when they think that bombing an entire village because there is possibly an enemy hiding there

 

[Reborn]

It's crazy how you are really repeating the propaganda of the appartheid state. No it would not. It would only allow Israel to annex Gaza and oppress Palestinian even more.

Israel invaded Gaza in order to annex it. Any researcher on colonization and international comitee understand that.

Israel is not just commiting war crime, it's commiting hundreds of war crimes, multiple crimes against humanity, an ethnic cleansing and a genocide. And this is WITHOUT even talking about the current oppression of Palestinian and arabs minorities in and out of Israel.

A politic of extermination doesn't necesarily need the extermination of all, it's a politic based on racism and ethnocentric values meant to get rid of an entire population in a area and push the rest to go away. Which is exactly what Israel is doing at the moment.

For the love of Usopp, learn about the history and the sociology of colonialism.

And understand that what Israel wants is an ETHNOSTATE.

You would have a doctorate by now if you would have invested all the energy you put in writing essays on colonialism/Fascism here on writing thesis for PhD

 

[Logiko]

You would have a doctorate by now if you would have invested all the energy you put in writing essays on colonialism/Fascism here on writing thesis for PhD

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

It also greatly devalued the homes and land, which will allow billionaires to buy it all up at a massive discount....again.

Billionaires pulling a Crassus. Insurance companies removed their fire insurances some months ago it seems.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

After buying up all the land

and who sells it?

market dynamics

=made up bullshit

I get why the West Bank wants war. But Gaza? Still??

War is a socially accepted form of suicide.

You would have a doctorate by now if you would have invested all the energy you put in writing essays on colonialism/Fascism here on writing thesis for PhD

And you'd win a hair beauty contest if you had hair.

 

[Reborn]

and who sells it?

=made up bullshit

War is a socially accepted form of suicide.

And you'd win a hair beauty contest if you had hair.

Thank you for considering that my hair were beauty contest winning worthy

 

[NAMELESS]

Survey was released in November 2023 (not sure)

I found it online so just sharing what I saw.

Done by Arab World for Research and Develop (Internal agency supported by UN, Arab Nations, World Bank)

Summary

• 75% support the October 7 massacre
• 85.9% reject coexistence with Israel
• 71.1% are committed to the restoration of “historical Palestine” as a final resolution
• 74.7% support the creation of a Palestinian state “from the river to the sea” as the only acceptable resolution of the conflict.

Support for Hamas and other such organizations

• 76% believe that Hamas plays a somewhat to very positive role
• 84% believe that Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) plays a somewhat to very positive role
• 79.8% believe that Fatah’s terror wing, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, plays a somewhat to very positive role
• 88.6% believe that Hamas’ armed wing, the Al-Kassam Brigades, plays a somewhat to very positive role.

Towards West

• 98.2% of Palestinians see the U.S. role as negative
• 96.7% consider the UK role as negative
• 92.6% consider the EU role as negative.
• 85.5% believe that these countries support Israel because of “hatred of Arabs
• 79.5% believe that support is the result of “hatred of Muslims and Islam”

Towards some Arab countries

• 96% disapprove of the UAE
• 95.5% disapprove of Saudi Arabia
• 84.6% disapprove of Egypt
• 75.6% disapprove of Jordan.

Approval ratings​

Jesus...

That channel is funded by Turkey and panders to islamists

When Yahya Sinwar died, they made a video glorifying him and all the comments praised him as a hero

As if this man didn’t needlessly start a war that killed thousands of his own people just to spite Israel.
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Feel like the current war might actually succeed in largely destroying the Palestinian cause.

Like I doubt the Palestinians will ever truly forget their homelands. But much as the Jews did when they were exiled, I could see Palestinians creating some sort of religious cope so they can just move on and stop fighting the same war over and over.

“Eventually Palestinians will return to their homeland in the end times when the Jesus and the Mahdi come, but until then we’ll just live peacefully”

I could see Mossad pushing such a narrative post war.

Ultimately don’t see why anyone in Gaza would still want war with Israel after this.

I don't there will be a Palestine after this war is over.
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and who sells it?

=made up bullshit

War is a socially accepted form of suicide.

And you'd win a hair beauty contest if you had hair.

*Homicide.

 

[Blax Blah]

You would have a doctorate by now if you would have invested all the energy you put in writing essays on colonialism/Fascism here on writing thesis for PhD

@AL sama @NAMELESS @Uncle Van @Brush D. Teeth would you take someone with a political science phd more seriously?
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Pretty interesting though that that is true lol in socialist political circles you have a lot of people who could easily pass any college or master or phd course on the topic of capitalism feudalism and socialism

 

[NAMELESS]

@AL sama @NAMELESS @Uncle Van @Brush D. Teeth would you take someone with a political science phd more seriously?
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Pretty interesting though that that is true lol in socialist political circles you have a lot of people who could easily pass any college or master or phd course on the topic of capitalism feudalism and socialism

I depends on where he got that PHD. Brazilian PHD in political science=Marxist.

 

[Blax Blah]

I depends on where he got that PHD. Brazilian PHD in political science=Marxist.

It depends in the college or on the country?
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I also remember reading in a news article that talked about a class in highschool or college in China where they were talking about marxism, and a student said

Well if marxism just means making profits then isn't Bill Gates one of the greatest marxists

Edit: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYO0HErWwAE-Oed?format=jpg&name=large

 

[Logiko]

I depends on where he got that PHD. Brazilian PHD in political science=Marxist.

"It's science unless I don't like it"

 

[AL sama]

@AL sama @NAMELESS @Uncle Van @Brush D. Teeth would you take someone with a political science phd more seriously?
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Pretty interesting though that that is true lol in socialist political circles you have a lot of people who could easily pass any college or master or phd course on the topic of capitalism feudalism and socialism

only if the person is reasonable

 

[NAMELESS]

It depends in the college or on the country?
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I also remember reading in a news article that talked about a class in highschool or college in China where they were talking about marxism, and a student said

Well if marxism just means making profits then isn't Bill Gates one of the greatest marxists

Edit: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYO0HErWwAE-Oed?format=jpg&name=large

Curriculum!!! College and Country both play a part in this. In Brazil, Fed gov decides what is taught in every college and school, so they all learn the same things. In other nations, things are different of course. Marxism isn't about profits, what the fuck are they on about?

 

[AL sama]

education doesn't really matter to me as long as someone is reasonable

 

[Ali v2]

The Palestinian-Israeli conflict will forever be a political dilemma, as an individual whom land has been divided and taken by foreign powers times and times again I can understand why the Palestinians are refusing to surrender.

 

[Logiko]

education doesn't really matter to me as long as someone is reasonable

It depends what you put on the word "reasonnable".

For me, a reasonnable person is someone that pushes radical political measures in accordance to scientific and political knowledges. Anyone who want to nuance this is by defaut someone who is somewhat ok with the systems of oppressions and the millions of death and precarities that comes with them. Hence, those persons are everything but reasonnable to me.

 

[AL sama]

It depends what you put on the word "reasonnable".

For me, a reasonnable person is someone that pushes radical political measures in accordance to scientific and political knowledges. Anyone who want to nuance this is by defaut someone who is somewhat ok with the systems of oppressions and the millions of death and precarities that comes with them. Hence, those persons are everything but reasonnable to me.

not sure why are you quoting me for

 

[Logiko]

not sure why are you quoting me for

Not sure why you ask that.