Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
The current EO isn’t nearly as extreme, but it’s still very concerning

I believe any baby born 30 days from the signing of the order who doesn’t have a PR or citizen for at least one parent won’t get citizenship. It doesn’t work retroactively.

not only does it screw the kids of illegal immigrants, it screws the kids of legal immigrants on work visas.

My parents are legal immigrants but I was born while they were on visa because it takes many years to get a green card. Guess it’s a good thing I was born before Trump lol.
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hopefully the courts strike it down because it blatantly violates the 14th amendment

but if by some miracle they do uphold it, imho that would be legitimate grounds for secession.

the 14th amendment is one of the cornerstones of American civil rights law. If it Is in jeopardy and even century old rulings like Wong Kim Ark can be overturned, then America as we know it is dead and spiraling into fascism. Better to get off a sinking ship while you can.
Not quite. A lot of the amendmens were initially made vague to be open to interpretation for later societies. It's the main reason the 2nd Amendment and gun control is such a debated topic. The 1st Amendment is one fo the few that's set in stone, but they even find loopholes around that one.

"I'm not violating the constitution. I'm just legally interpreting it a different way". It worked quite a few times in the past.


I highly doubt that the majority of people who voted for Trump are shocked with what he is doing
Alot of them just think Trump is getting rid of illegals and giving jobs back to Americans.
 
A good way to understand and confirm what I have been saying here is by observing who is defending Musk in medias and internet.

And one of these groups are people who kept on trying to legitimize the genocide of Gaza and call antisemitic every studient protest. This is a clear case of two far right groups finding a common interest.

For example we have a guy in France who calls himself a leftist who has been constantly attacking the left on the principle that they are creating antisemitic dog whistle (the antifascist red triangle being one of them) and after Musk's gesture he said this:



"It's not a nazi salute, but the awkward gesture of a guy who sends hearts to a mob of fans. Even when the danger is in front of you, you keep fighting windmills"

This is not a surprise that the defensors of fascist methods are now defending a fascist gesture.

I don't necessarily agree with him but still, Hitler's body isn't at an angle as he says. Read other people's posts before replying.
There is no "angle" in the nazi gesture. It's only about the arm. Stop the BS. Stop trying to defend this undefendable.
 
Not quite. A lot of the amendmens were initially made vague to be open to interpretation for later societies. It's the main reason the 2nd Amendment and gun control is such a debated topic. The 1st Amendment is one fo the few that's set in stone, but they even find loopholes around that one.

"I'm not violating the constitution. I'm just legally interpreting it a different way". It worked quite a few times in the past.




Alot of them just think Trump is getting rid of illegals and giving jobs back to Americans.
I mean the courts could definitely uphold Trump’s order

I’m just saying it would be such a great disregard for the law and spirit of America that I think secession would be justified

Birthright citizenship has been law of the land for over 100 years. Countless Americans were granted citizenship this way.

If the GOP can take this down then it legitimately isn’t worth even trying to coexist in a country with them. Let them go create whatever country they desire, and the rest of us can uphold our America.
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
I mean the courts could definitely uphold Trump’s order

I’m just saying it would be such a great disregard for the law and spirit of America that I think secession would be justified

Birthright citizenship has been law of the land for over 100 years. Countless Americans were granted citizenship this way.

If the GOP can take this down then it legitimately isn’t worth even trying to coexist in a country with them. Let them go create whatever country they desire, and the rest of us can uphold our America.
Spirit of America? If you mean abusing immigrants even before it's official creation in 1776, then yeah. America loves to torment immigrants.
 


:milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:

Anyone wiith a brain would check themselves anytime they raise their right hand between 90* and 180*. He knew well what he was doing, and its typical for “conservatives” to deny deny deny, literally the foundation of Trumps principles (attack, deny, never admit defeat)
lol you watched the film about Trump.

Yes Musk knew what he was doing, even if he probably did it for banter knowing his troll habits.

I'm sure he'll do it again and this time will yell sieg heil and far-righties will say they can't hear properly.


With that said I personally don't care that much about this douchebag doing a nazi salute.

It's funny how historians are asked if this is a good nazi salute or something else. Like we definitely need someone who studied nazism their entire life to recognize a nazi salute :kobeha:

He replied with "lol you see nazism everywhere haha" btw.




"It's not a nazi salute, but the awkward gesture of a guy who sends hearts to a mob of fans. Even when the danger is in front of you, you keep fighting windmills"

This is not a surprise that the defensors of fascist methods are now defending a fascist gesture.
Enthoven is a notorious shill to the nazis without foreskin. One of these idiots who are often called on tv.

From DeGaulle to Pétain.
 
Random anons five years later: "Thank God Trump deported me from that shithole country."
It's already been seen with stalinists for instance. The Stalin bros in the high hierarchy who worshipped the purges and who got purged later were sorry for not having been good enough and that "they couldn't see what was wrong with themselves but thankfully Stalin sent them to the gulag so that they could be a sacrifice to build communism". Peak psychology.
 
Sure, in the meantime, learn about fascism.
Do you think you are so smart? I even said I disagreed with him in my first reply but your poor comprehension of the English language prevented you from picking up on that I guess. He had literally only cited 2 characteristics of the gesture and you very trimphantly posted a video of Hitler only respecting one of them. Learn how to be humbler.
 
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