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Loki literally admitted to be defenseless and that the seastone was draining his strength.

If Loki can use FS, he can use CoA to protect himself, which he didn't.
And?

We have literal evidence of inconsistent use of haki.

And, you yourself admitted that sea stone drains stamina

It doesn't negate haki so you can't say "loki can't use it at all"

He can if he has some energy left
 
Big mom couldn't even move and had to "beg" Kaido to remove the seastone chains lmao.

You guys are not real right now.
Please don’t lump me in with @JoNdule and @Reborn
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Isn't garp also like imprisoned by the Blackbeard pirates by seastone or am I wrong
Which makes sense because it suppresses Haki, thanks again for giving more evidence to our side if you are right about this detail
 
First of all, that is how CoO works. No one can tell the future, they just make an educated guess with more or less detail. It may be too difficult for your brain, but the “future” they see with CoO isn’t the real future since it can change 🤡
Post a panel of seastone NEGATING HAKI

We got statements that Seastone can Newgate df users from using their dfs but not haki

Being weak to haki due to energy being drained =// haki is negated or can't be used at all

But since you're a troll, I'll let you continue
 
Show me the panel saying "sea stone negates haki and one cannot use it at all"

There is none

It depletes energy which makes it difficult to use haki.

You people misinterpret the meaning lmao
They made their conclusions a fact

And then they'll start saying "oda retconned haki, oda now doing whatever"
When in fact, Oda never said anything about seastone negating haki
 
Nobody has been shon cutting seaston material without hax like ope ope

AS LONG AS YOU HAVE ENERGY, you can use haki
Especially for a top tier.

There's no statement stating haki CANT BE USED AT ALL or that SEASTONE NEGATES HAKI
If he can freely use haki then there was no need to do a desperate move like cutting off his legs. He could just destroy parts of the wall that the cuffs are dangled into.

The burden of proof lies on you, because the last time it was addressed in the manga, a df user can’t use haki at all. Never mind an advanced haki like FS which we know is more of a stamina drain. If Loki also has armament or acoc then why didn’t he just use that instead of FS to defend? Lol
 
Show me the panel saying "sea stone negates haki and one cannot use it at all"

There is none

It depletes energy which makes it difficult to use haki.

You people misinterpret the meaning lmao
You need to prove otherwise.

Like many said, no one so far, Top Tier or not who had a DF showed signs of being able to use Haki while handcuffed by seastones.

And claiming Luffy couldn't because his haki isn't up there when he literally used CoC when he was knocked by Kaido is a disingenuous remark.

And that was still supressed handcuffs, so they could still work on the prison.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Wow, so please explain to us the difference between 0 ability because it drains your energy and 0 ability because it is negated?
I will give you two examples


Sea water - it doesn't negate df abilities. It simply drains df user energy making them difficult to use df. It makes them hammer. Luffy during Arlong arc was able to stretch with help from others despite being in water

Yami - negates it. It nullifies df. One cannot use it at all

Sea stone cuffs drains stamina. Less stamina= less energy to use haki

But it doesn't negate haki
 
You need to prove otherwise.

Like many said, no one so far, Top Tier or not who had a DF showed signs of being able to use Haki while handcuffed by seastones.

And claiming Luffy couldn't because his haki isn't up there when he literally used CoC when he was knocked by Kaido is a disingenuous remark.

And that was still supressed handcuffs, so they could still work on the prison.
Not even signs. As soon as the seastone cuffs dropped Luffy blasted Conquerors within a second. It suppresses everything.
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I will give you two examples


Sea water - it doesn't negate df abilities. It simply drains df user energy making them difficult to use df. It makes them hammer. Luffy during Arlong arc was able to stretch with help from others despite being in water

Yami - negates it. It nullifies df. One cannot use it at all

Sea stone cuffs drains stamina. Less stamina= less energy to use haki

But it doesn't negate haki
“With help from others” negates your argument

ohhh I see, he is seeing the future with Gunko’s help! Thanks for agreeing with us
 
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