[FNZ] Light game Naruto Chunin Exams Filler Game

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Fallen Prince

I have some knowledge about Mafia games, I know that light games don't feature a faction kill. I played tons in my lifetime and this is how things proceeded each time.

I see that Natalija jumped on me so prominently based off her usual cripple reads. Reminds me of Gambit after all. She sus'es people out of pure tinfoil.

I still stand by the opinion she and Reborn are the remaining scums.

So I want her out.

Vote Lynch Natalija
Wait what light games ? You are confusing me.

This post looks iffy.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
After I answer this, I’m going to bed, just so you don’t get on me for disappearing/not responding.

Mafia, because of what he said about Rayan.

If he is mafia, then it’s between you/Final/Nat for the SK (the latter because she’s playing in a similar manner as she did last time she was that, the first two I already explained).

Any of the three I said above.
You can reply to this whenever you come online but I think I missed something.

You said that apart from cobra, you sus me, beta and nat but you incline more towards nat for sk


But these are your posts today which imply something else

Here is what I have to say:

Gambit - Has come back after Natalija's vote on him, but has not proven himself.

People get lynched for not trying hard or focusing on something easy like game mechanics because it looks suspect.

This quote is not something I would put against Gambit. He has his opinion and backed it up with reason. The one thing he is really missing is helpfulness in detecting scum, which he has not decided to do even after being confronted by Reborn on this.

This is as much as I have found. One null read on one person.

@Reborn I can't use meta against TAC because I have never played with him before. FinalBeta is tough to read for me. If I was to ignore that and look at facts, beta has 4 posts where he talks about mechanics (if you say you have around 10 posts, almost half are mechanical):



He has more than 2 posts on Naruto, this is fine, it was early in the day.

Later in the day:





All he has been vocal about is Zara, if you say you have been much more vocal in the past, I'm not too sure how you would have been able to post atleast 5 times a day to not get kicked out (;

But you have to agree you talked more about mechanics and fluffy posts than actual legitimate suspicion like you did with Zara. So for now, putting aside the fact that beta's meta is unreadable to me for now, he acts like he did more than he actually did. Sounds suspect.

As for TAC,



Sounds like what has been happening up to then.. I think TAC suspicion is valid.

A word on Jew since maybe people didn't catch my opinion before. I think he misworded himself and that put everyone's eyes on him. He is defending himself the way a town would.

In the end though, because Gambit has not done a lot he will have my vote. vote lynch Gambit @AL sama

(I hope my quotes are ok, don't wanna pull a Marimo :gokulaugh:)
You're right, I meant sus instead of vote.

But the days are short, take advantage of the hours while you can Marimo Vote Lynch Marimo @AL sama
I wouldn’t call it immediate; she was sussing you yesterday after rereading your stuff from the first couple of days. Not saying that makes her automatically right about you, but it makes me think she could possibly be onto something.
but if we’re pretty sure the GF can’t kill without a faction, I think I can see a case against Final...he could have killed Sera to make Reborn (who he was also against) look scummy and draw the heat for a lynch.
I’m inclined to side with Nat based on her moving off Gambit before he flipped town, but I still haven’t read their interactions thoroughly yet.


Please care to elaborate that if you think nat is onto somethings on final and you are also inclined to side with her then why you give preference to nat over beta as sk?
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Ignore melon posts. Her posts are being quoted for some thing else
 
From where you read this?
From this link Marimo provided.
Telling the cop to investigate him is a pretty good way of making him look less scummy however Godfather is immune to this.
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Godfather
Specific quote is this.
An investigation-immune Godfather may lose his investigation immunity if he performs a kill himself.
I posted this last day phase as well. Not reading posts? Open the post, it is provided in quotes.
Maybe Why a Kill was not performed? 🤔


Scummy Players, are our catch. Gambit spoke of wanting to be looked into by a Cop and has been scummy since D1. Hasn't been helpful townie. Second guess would be Beta.



See how useless the role is, and saving Godfather obviously would be priority for Goon, since they get atleast one more Kill and have hope of GF town clearing himself next day phase, by speaking things a Godfather wouldn't. And i noticed that about Gambit.

On surface Gambit first few posts have some details that normally will townclear him, reading Tac as Goon when he was Role Blocker( a mafia buddy can't remember other wrong),, but on second thoughts that info was unnecessary in itself there and was fit in to intentionally get himself town cleared.

It made me doubts my entire reads when i read that, bt after reading Godfather role. I am sure Gambit is GF.


My my Beta why did you deduce it was SK and not Godfather. :wellwell:
I think there were posts hinting Gambit was town, but i ignored em and believed he acted so intentionally to get town reads. 🤦‍♂️
@Yo Tan Wa suggests AL told him that the GF can also kill in this game, alone or not
Where/How did you get that impression Beta?
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
From this link Marimo provided.

Specific quote is this.


I posted this last day phase as well. Not reading posts? Open the post, it is provided in quotes.

I think there were posts hinting Gambit was town, but i ignored em and believed he acted so intentionally to get town reads. 🤦‍♂️

Where/How did you get that impression Beta?
The link says GF is invest immune.

But I read your statement as you are trying to say GF can invest twonies

Godfather info state it will Invest Townie as long as it not performs a Kill.

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Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
@Fallen Prince

Since in the past I played games in which only one mafia member could kill and they were light games like this one I preemptively assumed this to be the case either. It's always up to the host however, this could be a game in which right now both SK and GF could kill, in fact I don't rule out the chance and never did. Funnily instead Natalija did. It has to be said that the write up suggests only one kill happened in two night in a row however there could be explanations in both scenarios.

My case is on Nat being SK actually, not Reborn, who I still find sus. I believe her reaction at the beginning of the day phase is no different than the one she had against Gambit long ago and that her vote on me is a set up. She also is pretty fixiated with the SK notion that's why I believe she is one.

About me susing people back that's my meta and you can ask anyone here and will tell you the same.

@Yo Tan Wa You said you asked AL about the set up, right? What did he tell you exactly?
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
That is wrong Beta.

I literally called out Goon role information to you last day phase and you ignored my question reply despite making posts.

Goon is Vanilla Mafia and can only do Faction Kills. And Tac was Role Blocker. So either GF can Kill or they have Faction Kill.
@Yo Tan Wa I thought this post implied you had asked AL about the Goon in this game. It's my bad then I suppose.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
@Melontonin

I know you have worked really hard this game but I see there is something off

You raised a bit of sus on everyone here including rayan.

But when I was going through rayan posts to cross check his reads I found something odd and I would post here.


Let's Look at his reads- in this posts on day one he give reads on yo tan vs sera(mention Sera and yo tan both and there is another post in which he has given read on them individually),jew, Reborn, tris and on tac vs beta.

But if we look carefully then on tac vs beta, he avoided saying anything on tac and his whole read was on beta. Since both tac and Rayan flipped mafia, it's clear that rayan tried to avoid speaking on tac here.



So reads :

Yo Tan Wa vs Sera : I can understand the point of YTW move but this was done in a really weird style haha. YTW being stubborn to not answering anything and pointing Sera who barely didn't say a word can be seen as quite suspect. But at the same time if YTW was scum I don't really think he would go that way being that hostile right in the beginning. YTW move was way to flashy. So for now I don't put him as scum but will follow his future posts.

Jew : don't really like the way he talked and behave about Reborn or his overall posts but he seems sincere. I don't know yet.

TAC vs Final : final was indeed quite calm in the beginning of the game but this doesn't mean much with him. He sussed back TAC right away when TAC voted against him but this is so Beta-like that even that doesn't look suspicious when for someone else it could have been.

Reborn : he is fishing as always. Mostly town read

Trismegistus : first game and trying to ask reads and thoughts etc : town read
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And I am for a lynch tonight, no lynch is a bad option

Then he sus jew, cobra and zara and gave read on me vs Gambit (this time read is on both me and gambit unlike only on beta in his read on tac vs beta which further proves my point that he tried to avoid speaking on tac)


Then he again sussed jew and cobra
Haha I remember some heated debates between neutral and you (if I remember well) in the first games

I honestly don't know who to vote :

Either Jew or Cobra for now.

I don't really understand what Zara is trying to do with Beta. Trying to make him unvote and ally against someone else etc ? Seems weird to me
No real activity while being here from Cobra

Jew reactions in the begining of the game were a bit iffy and as a whole too.



haha yeah and said that it will better for both of them to not vote against each other like if she didn't care about town etc



Mostly a good town vs town. Reborn is fishing but has some obsessions this game and a harsh way of doing it and Gambit had low activity and didn't want to lynch quickly rose his tone.
But i just see two townies here.

and you ?
Voted zara

Now he give reads on Marimo and cobra and again on me and tris
The guys who didn't talked that much : Marimo and Cobra mostly.

Marimo : I have quite a good vibe about him, even if It will me my dearest pleasure to lynch him he didn't seem scum to me.

Cobra is still weird, he reminds me beta gameplay lol his answers were shady and a bit of trolling etc.

About the others :

Tris : mostly town to me, for a first time she wants to do things wants to participate and gave reads. I think this is mostly a town behavior.
For me she is in my top list as town.

Reborn : mostly town too he scum hunt like he is used to do. The only thing here that changed a bit is that he is challenged and he was not really used to be in the last games I played with him. So I think he has some difficulties to not leading town because people don't go his way and want to do their own things haha. But still town teh guy fights like a lion to give reads and push cases.
I will try to do a Jiraya sensei and send you a message with a foot on the grave :

town : Drago, Sera, Reborn, Tris and Marimo

Neutral : Gambit and YTW

Bad : Cobra, NAt and Fallen prince

In this post he mentioned even nat and fallen



But not even once he mentioned you in his reads? It's quite weird isn't it?



Now, apart from his last post when he was trying to pull jiraya sensei, he didn't give reads on neither fallen and nataljia as well.


So, I looked at the timing of votes casted on him by you three.

Nat raised sus on him and called her reads diplomatic so did fallen. Both put votes on him.


You initially raised a bit of sus on him but you casted vote on him in the last half an hour day two.

And, he pulled that jiraya Sensei read after you voted him.


So I am really clueless why rayan never mentioned you in any of his reads
 
@Yo Tan Wa I thought this post implied you had asked AL about the Goon in this game. It's my bad then I suppose.
Big leap, i dont think it in anyway implies that.

I quoted you Mafia scum page Statements last day phase, and you read that too and replied. Infact the very next post is yours.

Anyway, i immediately read back my pm had i done that, in case i forgot it Lol.

And the setup is there on first page but i dont think Host will give away any role abilities. Try asking that.
 
Listen to me very carefully. Beta is the SK, and if we don’t lynch him today, Konoha WILL lose. It’s do or lose at this point. Vote. @Reborn @Yo Tan Wa @Jew D. Boy @Trismegistus

We totally forgot about the doc. He/she is still in the game. So it might be the doc's doing.
There would be a failed kill
Question to you natalie

Why would beta go after TAC since he was getting framed bh tac , if sk did kill TAC wouldnt it make good frame for beta to look bad.
That’s precisely why he did it. He’s crazy enough to make that his defence. He thinks he’s a mafia demigod by killing the ones who suspected him. Pretty great plan tbh. He’s 100% the SK. I know.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
That’s precisely why he did it. He’s crazy enough to make that his defence. He thinks he’s a mafia demigod by killing the ones who suspected him. Pretty great plan tbh. He’s 100% the SK. I know.
And yet I killed Seraphoenix all of a sudden? For no concrete reason given that you claimed I did it for changing my line and yet I was started to be sused way earlier than during last day. 🤔 Why not changing it earlier instead of killing Dragomir?

And why killing off Dragomir instead of looking for the Cop he had called to look on me in the night?

You keep throwing tinfoily accusations to strenghten your apparent case on me.
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if we don’t lynch him today, Konoha WILL lose. It’s do or lose at this point.
This is false and you know it lol.

It is way too soon for Town to lose the game, no matter today's lynch flip.

I see what you did here my dear.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Listen to me very carefully. Beta is the SK, and if we don’t lynch him today, Konoha WILL lose. It’s do or lose at this point. Vote. @Reborn @Yo Tan Wa @Jew D. Boy @Trismegistus


There would be a failed kill

That’s precisely why he did it. He’s crazy enough to make that his defence. He thinks he’s a mafia demigod by killing the ones who suspected him. Pretty great plan tbh. He’s 100% the SK. I know.
There is plenty of time left today so why to hurry?

Can you please explain me your case on beta? Take your time. Quote his posts but can you show me the case? Your reason to sus him are too scattered
 
So I am really clueless why rayan never mentioned you in any of his reads
Lmao i totally missed it. Beta n Jew are also not in there.

Tbh i also don't know what to make of this.

A scum usually mix in his buddies among Townies or sus, and won't separate him/her to be focus of town.
But he also didn't separate her alone but 3 persons, so it could be possible.

There's equally likely chance it could be setup.

I also tried asking him for reads fast, so he don't have enough time to mix em well, but he still took his sweet time to provide em. Maybe he still was unsure and hence didn't put him/her in his list and separated two more with his buddy. Possible.

I would say it is Not definite Reborn. There's no one way to make sense of this but many.

And Rayan not speaking on Tac also doesn't mean he would so the same with other scum buddy. It was his last read, i am sure he was aware that it will looked in closely once he flips scum and so might not have kept distance anymore, despite it being strategy at first.
 
There is plenty of time left today so why to hurry?

Can you please explain me your case on beta? Take your time. Quote his posts but can you show me the case? Your reason to sus him are too scattered
There’s no hurry, I just want to point out that we will LOSE this game if we don’t lynch him today. We’d head for a mislynch and then he can kill again, we will be left with him and mafia and our numbers will be done for.

I know his meta, Reborn. His targets are only something he would pull off. Go read his posts. I’m more sure of this than of you being Cult Leader.
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So, if it was a failed kill, would that be said in the writeup?

You are saying that there wasn't a kill attempt at all, right?
Correct, that’s what AL told me.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Lmao i totally missed it. Beta n Jew are also not in there.

Tbh i also don't know what to make of this.

A scum usually mix in his buddies among Townies or sus, and won't separate him/her to be focus of town.
But he also didn't separate her alone but 3 persons, so it could be possible.

There's equally likely chance it could be setup.

I also tried asking him for reads fast, so he don't have enough time to mix em well, but he still took his sweet time to provide em. Maybe he still was unsure and hence didn't put him/her in his list and separated two more with his buddy. Possible.

I would say it is Not definite Reborn. There's no one way to make sense of this but many.

And Rayan not speaking on Tac also doesn't mean he would so the same with other scum buddy. It was his last read, i am sure he was aware that it will looked in closely once he flips scum and so might not have kept distance anymore, despite it being strategy at first.
Huh?

He didn't miss out on jew and beta. He gave reads on both of them.(look back at my posts)


The only person on whom he never spoke is melon and on tac when he gave tac vs beta read which is quite weird to me.
 
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Fallen Prince

Okay here is what i think SK will not sus on a GF in any case . So both will likely team up to reduce town number .

Even Sera point this well , no wonder he was killed .
 
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