Powers & Abilities Shanks Has A Mythical Power In His Sword Too
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Nika failed..Luffy will become even stronger to actually beat that primordial being...
Oda made Zoro with 3 swords to signify he is stronger than the greatest irl swordsman but he won't be making him the strongest in his own story and will leave doubts over his titlte
Do you hear yourself?
Oda made Zoro with 3 swords to signify he is stronger than the greatest irl swordsman but he won't be making him the strongest in his own story and will leave doubts over his titlte
Do you hear yourself?
You gonna be pushing zoro over Luffy too if he ends up inheriting a sword too
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Like ha0 being a dumbass about it is normal
Ima be honest trolling or not putting zoro over nika and Imu just because they have swords is a dumb ass take
You gonna be pushing zoro over Luffy too if he ends up inheriting a sword too
You gonna be pushing zoro over Luffy too if he ends up inheriting a sword too
Oda purposefully never pitied a swordsman against Luffy. He might do it only against Samrock because he is the copy of Shanks and Luffy can't beat him even if he says he aims for him..
All his strongest opponents never have and seemingly never will use a sword. Akainu his strongest marine adversary doesn't,BB his strongest pirate adversary doesn't.
One of the basics Luffy said is this but you want him to go ahead and use a sword...
..
Oda already threw the seeds of doubt over Joyboy when he compared his haki to Shanks...
Why would Nikas get the benefit of the doubt ,when at the end of the day they failed their cause and the Primordial being still exists to this day?
I think it is really simple. Zoro's sword will end up being stronger than anyone's sword with no doubt inverse over his ability.
You pit Zoro over anyone's swordsmanship and he will be superior. Again Oda made him in his mind to be stronger than the strongest and you don't want that to be true inverse. How does it make sense? His dream doesn't stop at being just being the strongest.
You ridicule nik but there is one thing he is right. The SH have impossible dreams . Just becoming the strongest in his era isn't that impossible.
You base Zoro's EoS level based on current known opponents when there is a next level now with primordial beings...
It isn't "my interpretation", it's what Zoro thinks of the title.
Or rather, it's what Oda wants the readers to think about Zoro's dream.
As the WSS, Mihawk does not lose to any swordsman in a fight.
That is an objective fact and not up for discussion.
What confirmed wins do Whitebeard or Kaido have?
Do we microanalyze what their titles mean?
Or do we keep these standards solely to the only title which is undeniably certain by virtue of being the dream of an MC?
Talking about Haki-based swordsmen are a bit simpler, since we have the likes of Zoro & Oden as a benchmark.
Big Mom is a case where she fails to combine her swordsmanship & her devil fruit ability in a cohesive manner.
Which ends up with her having two distinct fighting styles, moves which can be argued as giant swordsmanship (Ikoku, Mamaraid etc,.) and moves which are due to the Soul DF ability (her Homie attacks, Misery).
Fujitora, f.ex., has zero excuses.
Gravito or "Gravity Blade" is his fighting style and there is zero reason to say Raging Tiger isn't swordsmanship just cuz the Gravity DF is used.
Or rather, it's what Oda wants the readers to think about Zoro's dream.
As the WSS, Mihawk does not lose to any swordsman in a fight.
That is an objective fact and not up for discussion.
What confirmed wins do Whitebeard or Kaido have?
Do we microanalyze what their titles mean?
Or do we keep these standards solely to the only title which is undeniably certain by virtue of being the dream of an MC?
Talking about Haki-based swordsmen are a bit simpler, since we have the likes of Zoro & Oden as a benchmark.
Big Mom is a case where she fails to combine her swordsmanship & her devil fruit ability in a cohesive manner.
Which ends up with her having two distinct fighting styles, moves which can be argued as giant swordsmanship (Ikoku, Mamaraid etc,.) and moves which are due to the Soul DF ability (her Homie attacks, Misery).
Fujitora, f.ex., has zero excuses.
Gravito or "Gravity Blade" is his fighting style and there is zero reason to say Raging Tiger isn't swordsmanship just cuz the Gravity DF is used.
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Why deal with ifs and buts?
Oda purposefully never pitied a swordsman against Luffy. He might do it only against Samrock because he is the copy of Shanks and Luffy can't beat him even if he says he aims for him..
All his strongest opponents never have and seemingly never will use a sword. Akainu his strongest marine adversary doesn't,BB his strongest pirate adversary doesn't.
One of the basics Luffy said is this but you want him to go ahead and use a sword...
..
Oda already threw the seeds of doubt over Joyboy when he compared his haki to Shanks...
Why would Nikas get the benefit of the doubt ,when at the end of the day they failed their cause and the Primordial being still exists to this day?
I think it is really simple. Zoro's sword will end up being stronger than anyone's sword with no doubt inverse over his ability.
You pit Zoro over anyone's swordsmanship and he will be superior. Again Oda made him in his mind to be stronger than the strongest and you don't want that to be true inverse. How does it make sense? His dream doesn't stop at being just being the strongest.
You ridicule nik but there is one thing he is right. The SH have impossible dreams . Just becoming the strongest in his era isn't that impossible.
You base Zoro's EoS level based on current known opponents when there is a next level now with primordial beings...
Oda purposefully never pitied a swordsman against Luffy. He might do it only against Samrock because he is the copy of Shanks and Luffy can't beat him even if he says he aims for him..
All his strongest opponents never have and seemingly never will use a sword. Akainu his strongest marine adversary doesn't,BB his strongest pirate adversary doesn't.
One of the basics Luffy said is this but you want him to go ahead and use a sword...
..
Oda already threw the seeds of doubt over Joyboy when he compared his haki to Shanks...
Why would Nikas get the benefit of the doubt ,when at the end of the day they failed their cause and the Primordial being still exists to this day?
I think it is really simple. Zoro's sword will end up being stronger than anyone's sword with no doubt inverse over his ability.
You pit Zoro over anyone's swordsmanship and he will be superior. Again Oda made him in his mind to be stronger than the strongest and you don't want that to be true inverse. How does it make sense? His dream doesn't stop at being just being the strongest.
You ridicule nik but there is one thing he is right. The SH have impossible dreams . Just becoming the strongest in his era isn't that impossible.
You base Zoro's EoS level based on current known opponents when there is a next level now with primordial beings...
- Buggy knife man
- Kuro sword glove
- Arlong spikey sword
- Lucci tempest kick
- Hody fin sword
- Doflamingo’s main arsenal is just cutting shit
- Cracker had a sword
- Kaido had tons of cutting attacks
Luffy doesn’t need mihawk level sword skill to use a sword
So the giants comparing joyboy’s casual no hostility conquerors over the strongest conquerors they themselves seen is down play?
Thinking zoro will be stronger than nika and Imu just because sword is a delusion ass take no matter how you spin it
Retarded excuse.
In a War in Marine Ford, and he wouldn't try while Sengoku himself said :
Having this army can't make us having a clear win against this man.
Deadbeard with no Haki and weakened from Squardo's stab and had heart attacks, yet he didn't kill nor beat Whitebeard.
He didn't use his Diamond Form while being distracted with what happened t Whitebeard and Marco.
I like how you retards used the excuse for Kizaru when he got hit by Luffy saying he's distracted.
Yet, they don't have any feats and didn't prove to beat anyone.
Who did aramaki beat to be an admiral? Kizaru? Kuzan? Fujitora?
In a War in Marine Ford, and he wouldn't try while Sengoku himself said :
Having this army can't make us having a clear win against this man.
Deadbeard with no Haki and weakened from Squardo's stab and had heart attacks, yet he didn't kill nor beat Whitebeard.
He didn't use his Diamond Form while being distracted with what happened t Whitebeard and Marco.
I like how you retards used the excuse for Kizaru when he got hit by Luffy saying he's distracted.
Yet, they don't have any feats and didn't prove to beat anyone.
Who did aramaki beat to be an admiral? Kizaru? Kuzan? Fujitora?
Yeah, but worse than that when it includes YC7 Morley :
- Deskainu :
1/ He couldn't get past an already weakened Marco while being blood lusted :
2/ He used his signature attack, "Meigo," but failed to stop a 1HP severely injured, brain-dead, and tortured Kuma.
Afterward, 1 HP Kuma still had the strength to defeat New Pacifistas and Vice Admirals, land a punch on Saturn, and save Bonney from an attack using his back, this is how much Meigo affected him with literally nothing lmao :
3/ Sabo speed blitzed him and saved both Luffy and Ace while he was attacking Luffy :
https://x.com/pewpiece/status/1721405846825886027
4/ He couldn't hit Buggy who was overweight :
5/ He got sonned when Shanks came to Marine Ford :
Dude literally went from this
To this
When Shanks came, so NO lol
No wonder dude had to use Squardo to hope for internal betrayal before attempting any confrontation with Whitebeard
No wonder he had an equal 10 days fight with Kuzan later on, ending up scarred all over the body and barely winning despite magma devil fruit when regular fire can cancel out Kuzan's fruit
6/ Deskainu was treated as nonexistent and his presence was completely disregarded when Shanks was near him casually picking up the Straw Hat while leaving himself open and exuding confidence.
- Pizzalu :
1/ He got humiliated in a clash against Marco :
2/ He needed Marco to be distracted and in 2 v 1 with the help of a Vice Admiral to weaken him so he could affect his HP after the 1st humiliation :
3/ He couldn't get past an old man who was rusty and hadn't wielded a sword for decades and what's funny is Pizzalu started panting mid-clash:
4/ Pizzalu couldn't get past Gear 5th nor speed blitzing it and neither giving moderate damage which Kaido did for fun :
5/ His only damage against Gear 5th was giving a paper cut damage while using an army of clowns that got negdiffed:
6/ Franky, Sanji, Bonney, and Sentomaru suffered nothing from his attacks :
- Midkiji :
1/ He couldn't handle a human form Jozu without a distraction :
2/ He disappeared after a single open-handed attack from old Garp, who had been fighting hundreds of fodder soldiers and Teach’s officers. He only reappeared when Garp decided to leave.
3/ He couldn’t handle an old Garp who had significantly lost his strength due to age, even with thousands of fodder soldiers and Teach’s officers helping him. This only conveyed a sense of desperation on Blackbeard’s side.
No one believed in his strength lmao.
4/ He was speed-blitzed by an already weakened old Garp, who, with a hakiless and nameless throw, treated him as an afterthought to save Coby—and succeeded :
5/ He acknowledged being a weak ass without the help he received in Hachinosu against Garp by stating that they barely won with a team effort :
6/ He got stopped by Ace's flame attack easily :
- Fraudtora :
1/ A YC-level Zoro managed to send a slash from his weakest sword, even under his own gravity, to overpower Fraudtora's Devil Fruit power. Fraudtora was left shivering, pushed back, and kneeling, with his soldiers screaming his name :
2/ He failed to beat a Dressrosa Gear 2sd,3rd Luffy while stating that he was using his utmost :
3/ He couldn't do shit to 2 swords Zoro :
- Fraud Bull :
1/ He got sonned from miles away by Shanks's CoC and chose to retreat while he was shivering and crying :
モモの助や侍達を追い詰めるもシャンクスの覇気により退散
"Although he cornered Momonosuke and his comrades, he retreated due to Shanks's Haki."
2/ He didn't want Kaido's smoke and only came after he got beaten :
3/ He struggled against a YC 7 Morley :
- Deskainu :
1/ He couldn't get past an already weakened Marco while being blood lusted :
2/ He used his signature attack, "Meigo," but failed to stop a 1HP severely injured, brain-dead, and tortured Kuma.
Afterward, 1 HP Kuma still had the strength to defeat New Pacifistas and Vice Admirals, land a punch on Saturn, and save Bonney from an attack using his back, this is how much Meigo affected him with literally nothing lmao :
3/ Sabo speed blitzed him and saved both Luffy and Ace while he was attacking Luffy :
https://x.com/pewpiece/status/1721405846825886027
4/ He couldn't hit Buggy who was overweight :
5/ He got sonned when Shanks came to Marine Ford :
Dude literally went from this
To this
When Shanks came, so NO lol
No wonder dude had to use Squardo to hope for internal betrayal before attempting any confrontation with Whitebeard
No wonder he had an equal 10 days fight with Kuzan later on, ending up scarred all over the body and barely winning despite magma devil fruit when regular fire can cancel out Kuzan's fruit
6/ Deskainu was treated as nonexistent and his presence was completely disregarded when Shanks was near him casually picking up the Straw Hat while leaving himself open and exuding confidence.
- Pizzalu :
1/ He got humiliated in a clash against Marco :
2/ He needed Marco to be distracted and in 2 v 1 with the help of a Vice Admiral to weaken him so he could affect his HP after the 1st humiliation :
3/ He couldn't get past an old man who was rusty and hadn't wielded a sword for decades and what's funny is Pizzalu started panting mid-clash:
4/ Pizzalu couldn't get past Gear 5th nor speed blitzing it and neither giving moderate damage which Kaido did for fun :
5/ His only damage against Gear 5th was giving a paper cut damage while using an army of clowns that got negdiffed:
6/ Franky, Sanji, Bonney, and Sentomaru suffered nothing from his attacks :
1/ He couldn't handle a human form Jozu without a distraction :
2/ He disappeared after a single open-handed attack from old Garp, who had been fighting hundreds of fodder soldiers and Teach’s officers. He only reappeared when Garp decided to leave.
3/ He couldn’t handle an old Garp who had significantly lost his strength due to age, even with thousands of fodder soldiers and Teach’s officers helping him. This only conveyed a sense of desperation on Blackbeard’s side.
No one believed in his strength lmao.
4/ He was speed-blitzed by an already weakened old Garp, who, with a hakiless and nameless throw, treated him as an afterthought to save Coby—and succeeded :
5/ He acknowledged being a weak ass without the help he received in Hachinosu against Garp by stating that they barely won with a team effort :
6/ He got stopped by Ace's flame attack easily :
- Fraudtora :
1/ A YC-level Zoro managed to send a slash from his weakest sword, even under his own gravity, to overpower Fraudtora's Devil Fruit power. Fraudtora was left shivering, pushed back, and kneeling, with his soldiers screaming his name :
2/ He failed to beat a Dressrosa Gear 2sd,3rd Luffy while stating that he was using his utmost :
3/ He couldn't do shit to 2 swords Zoro :
- Fraud Bull :
1/ He got sonned from miles away by Shanks's CoC and chose to retreat while he was shivering and crying :
モモの助や侍達を追い詰めるもシャンクスの覇気により退散
"Although he cornered Momonosuke and his comrades, he retreated due to Shanks's Haki."
2/ He didn't want Kaido's smoke and only came after he got beaten :
3/ He struggled against a YC 7 Morley :
Just one question for me to test your level of mental sanity.
Would Mihawk be interested in dueling someone who uses earthquake waves on his long-handled sword to overcome him?
Would Mihawk be interested in dueling Fujitora, who uses gravity and meteors in his attacks?
Would Mihawk be interested in dueling against Law, who uses peculiar surgical methods in his sword attacks?
Would Mihawk be interested in fighting King, who uses fire dragons (karyudon) on his sword?
Would Mihawk be interested in fighting someone who uses a giant cerberus to fight with his sword?
Mihawk doesn't mind dueling against characters who use other fighting methods, he is always on the lookout for characters who consider themselves swordsmen
Would Mihawk be interested in dueling someone who uses earthquake waves on his long-handled sword to overcome him?
Would Mihawk be interested in dueling Fujitora, who uses gravity and meteors in his attacks?
Would Mihawk be interested in dueling against Law, who uses peculiar surgical methods in his sword attacks?
Would Mihawk be interested in fighting King, who uses fire dragons (karyudon) on his sword?
Would Mihawk be interested in fighting someone who uses a giant cerberus to fight with his sword?
Mihawk doesn't mind dueling against characters who use other fighting methods, he is always on the lookout for characters who consider themselves swordsmen
buddy talking abt sanity check like he didnt make this iconic L thread
Apparently, someone started leaking this disinformation, causing several other idiots to replicate this disinformation forward, without even investigating the reality. It's apparently easy to fool people here.
We talk about this panel:
We see SFX metallic sounds, of metal colliding with each other.
On the panel itself there is a name for the preparation of Zoro's attack ''blades drawn'', where Zoro flexes his swords against each other, hence the metallic sound.
As an example, on this panel:
There's also a metallic sound SFX coming out of Queen's claws, it doesn't mean that the claws are colliding with some other material, but it means that Queen is flexing to open them, so we have the metallic sound.
I hope I don't get that kind of argument in discussions, thank you.
We talk about this panel:
We see SFX metallic sounds, of metal colliding with each other.
On the panel itself there is a name for the preparation of Zoro's attack ''blades drawn'', where Zoro flexes his swords against each other, hence the metallic sound.
As an example, on this panel:
There's also a metallic sound SFX coming out of Queen's claws, it doesn't mean that the claws are colliding with some other material, but it means that Queen is flexing to open them, so we have the metallic sound.
I hope I don't get that kind of argument in discussions, thank you.
Define "win"
None of the 3 Admirals could prevent Whitebeard from destroying Marineford
All 3 could still beat him in a 1v1 though
It's a shitty road to go down because
-Akainu didn't get killed by Whitebeard, in fact he didn't even go unconscious
-Whitebeard didn't get killed by Akainu
However we can see that Whitebeard unevenly took significantly more damage than Akainu did from their exchange
Prove it
Doesn't really matter to me anyways since Aokiji negged Cracker and BB pirates. Jozus just one of many in terms of victims
Well we know it isn't mere hearsay as Titles are because it's through the World Government
None of the 3 Admirals could prevent Whitebeard from destroying Marineford
All 3 could still beat him in a 1v1 though
It's a shitty road to go down because
-Akainu didn't get killed by Whitebeard, in fact he didn't even go unconscious
-Whitebeard didn't get killed by Akainu
However we can see that Whitebeard unevenly took significantly more damage than Akainu did from their exchange
Prove it
Doesn't really matter to me anyways since Aokiji negged Cracker and BB pirates. Jozus just one of many in terms of victims
Well we know it isn't mere hearsay as Titles are because it's through the World Government