How strong is EOS Sanji?


  • Total voters
    253
  • Poll closed .
Status
Not open for further replies.

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
How strong his peak is doesn’t matter if it can’t take anyone out due to gassing out so quickly.

Heck It didn’t even leave a mark on Kizaru in Egghead with Kizaru feeding and helping Luffy in the fight. G5 has a lot of power, but its cost is wayyyy too great.
So? He still made kiz a pizza roll and Saturn a flying goof ball....

He's still the man who went toe to toe with kaido in G5


Argue gap is small when sanji even remotely shows something on that scale even for a minute.
 
Usopp will get his moment don’t worry. Whether it’ll be satisfactory or not depends on your expectations though.
What even are realistic expectations for him now? It's been 15 years since his last fight so just asking for a fight may already be too much.

Usopp will always be weak, forget that. What he need is develop a "warrior" spirit
That's hard to swallow considering the expectations for the rest of the crew.
 
Literally this.

I feel like I've entered some weird twilight zone where people have suddenly forgotten who Sanji actually is lmao.

Luffy is undeniably a top-tier now. Sanji if undeniably still a high-tier. Sanji is far closer to post-WCI Luffy than he is to current Luffy - this honestly can't even be debated.

However strong someone thinks EoS Sanji will be compared to EoS Luffy, it's undeniable that right now they are tiers apart. Luffy shits on Sanji, and it's not close.
Yes except if you weren’t so fucking incomprehensible, you would know that this is end game rankings. That this statement shows. You previously ignored this statement and said the gap between Luffy and Sanji would remain how it is which this comparison of the monster trio precursor completely negates. Stop trying to move the goal posts!
 
yeah except Zoro with his ACOC did fuck all to Kaido whilst Luffy was able to out him down. Zoro is not anywhere near Luffy. ACoC is just another tool to increase your output. It isn’t the end all and be all. Luffy’s output was way better than Zoro’s even before they both unlocked ACoC. Which hasn’t even been confirmed for Zoro anyway but eh precious databooks you all love to use?
Poor argument … knocking Kaido down was done by the scabbards, WCI Luffy, and post training Luffy on Wano it isn’t much of a feat, however scarring Kaido is.. only done by 1 person Oden.

Zoro’s output craps on Luffy’s it’s always been this way what Luffy needs multiple punches for Zoro can do it in 1 cut or 2.

Are you arguing if Zoro has CoC?
 
So? He still made kiz a pizza roll and Saturn a flying goof ball....

He's still the man who went toe to toe with kaido in G5


Argue gap is small when sanji even remotely shows something on that scale even for a minute.
After Kizaru stopped fighting him. And those “feats” vs nerfed Kaido are the same reason people thought Luffy would beat Kizaru instead Luffy got literally saved by him… like it looks more like Kaido was more weakened than anything than it is Luffy being that strong.
 
Literally this.

I feel like I've entered some weird twilight zone where people have suddenly forgotten who Sanji actually is lmao.

Luffy is undeniably a top-tier now. Sanji if undeniably still a high-tier. Sanji is far closer to post-WCI Luffy than he is to current Luffy - this honestly can't even be debated.

However strong someone thinks EoS Sanji will be compared to EoS Luffy, it's undeniable that right now they are tiers apart. Luffy shits on Sanji, and it's not close.
Tbf @Sir Yasheen is basically the sanji fan equivalent to @HA001
:kayneshrug:
I’m pretty sure he puts fmi sanji over cracker
:hope:

If im being honest all this chapter does is confirm Gaban is strong and relevant despite all the hate he was getting lol
As of now I don’t think the whole Gaban being equal to Roger and Rayleigh thing is all that deep tbh. It more likely than not just being another monster trio like dynamic
 
I think Oda will preserve the M3 dynamic for the core crew. What was shown or established since the start (East Blue) will persist. Luffy = Zoro > Sanji. 6 in Strength for both Luffy and Zoro and 5 in Strength for Sanji (as per one of the earliest databooks).
I disagree, and think there will be a gap between Luffy/Zoro as well, not matter how low.

But anyway, as long as you think the gap between Zoro/Sanji at EoS won't be high enough to the point Sanji gets low or mid diff'd, that's respectable.
They will be close in power, the big gap that exists now will become narrower

4000
2200
2180

As per the manga instead of a databooks of early one piece which Oda wouldn't care a shit about and strength could be referring to physical strength not battle power.
So much out of context here.

- Doriki measures physical power. When Lucci/Jabra were physical combatants, while Kaku was a swordsman. Plus, Kaku didn't have his DF back then (we know zoan DFs have an impact on base as well). Lucci/Kaku dynamics was established back then (which is still active!) for a reason
- Lucci was actually a bit stronger than Luffy, and Luffy needed extreme diff + PoF to beat him, was KO for days afterwards. Zoro and Sanji high diff'd their opponents, had more energy to spare.

Same manga had Luffy/Zoro fight in wiskey peak and fight to an even. I can pull up more Luffy/Zoro portrayals than you can pull up Zoro/Sanji portrayals.
We can all cherry pick what we want to push agendas, but when overall picture is looked at unbiased, it establishes portrayal/dynamics between Luffy/Zoro (captain/partner), Zoro/Sanji (two strongest underlings), Luffy/Zoro/Sanji (monster trio)
 
What even are realistic expectations for him now? It's been 15 years since his last fight so just asking for a fight may already be too much.


That's hard to swallow considering the expectations for the rest of the crew.
Usopp was never meant to have DBZ levels of fights like the M3 lol. He will always be a weak trio member

Some good character conflict to progress his dream are the expectations
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
After Kizaru stopped fighting him. And those “feats” vs nerfed Kaido are the same reason people thought Luffy would beat Kizaru instead Luffy got literally saved by him… like it looks more like Kaido was more weakened than anything than it is Luffy being that strong.
You simply can't toy with two top tiers (kiz and saturn) at the same time unless you are one yourself.

Arguing kaido was weakened means mute because so was luffy.

As I said, come argue gap is small when sanji shows something on such scale EVEN FOR A MINUTE.

And, as of now there is literally nothing that you can put as a case for sanji.
 
You know, Sanji rarely goes to a fight without being previously nerfed
Like when he fought gin, he was fucked up by peral before it
and when he fought jabra, he was fucked up by kalifa before it
And Vergo, nami fucked up his body before it
Doflamingo, viola beat the shit out of him before it
Queen, he was fucked up by black Maria before it
There are a lot of things that people like to ignore just to be anti-Sanji. There is nothing we can do about it but wait for chapters like these to be vindicated. The downplay will continue until the next big statement, or parallel or win against an Admiral then a Gorosei etc. But at every junction prior to these events Sanji will be no less downplayed than he is now. Because it's not about Oda doing him justice, he's already done that and will continue to, it's just about agendas.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top