Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1139 : “The Mountain Eater”

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Official shueisha mangaplus spanish

Ese hombre estaba a la par con silvers Rayleigh

Es una estrella legendaria que estaba a la par con Roger y Rayleigh!!


Official French shueisha mangaplus version

De meme que le vice captaine silvers Rayleigh

C'etait une figure legendaire de la piraterie, au même titre que Roger et Rayleigh
Portuguese translation says "on par with" btw
 

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Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Official shueisha mangaplus spanish

Ese hombre estaba a la par con silvers Rayleigh

Es una estrella legendaria que estaba a la par con Roger y Rayleigh!!


Official French shueisha mangaplus version

De meme que le vice captaine silvers Rayleigh

C'etait une figure legendaire de la piraterie, au même titre que Roger et Rayleigh
It says Gaban is a legendary figure like Ray and Roger
 
Official shueisha mangaplus spanish

Ese hombre estaba a la par con silvers Rayleigh

Es una estrella legendaria que estaba a la par con Roger y Rayleigh!!


Official French shueisha mangaplus version

De meme que le vice captaine silvers Rayleigh

C'etait une figure legendaire de la piraterie, au même titre que Roger et Rayleigh
I speak both languages and this is literally the same meaning like the English chapter.
 
When did that happen?


Literally that second panel is Kaido being condescending to Luffy, Oda even drew him looking down on Luffy

It does not matter because he is far more credible than the hopes & wishes of fans, being a Yonko, a pirate at the top of the food chain & among the 4 closest to the One Piece for decades.
The Yonko, more specifically Kaido and Big Mom are failures. You are being mistaken when you take their words for gospel. No matter how strong they are, their words mean shit because they couldn't achieve their potential


And it's not like he doesn't know about DF Awakenings either, in fact he's the most knowledgeable one regarding it.

It doesn't matter if he knows, its the fact that he lacks it.


Kaido's argument only falls apart when you bring up an example of how a non-CoC user with DF Awakening ended up surpassing the Yonko & Admirals to rule the seas. There are zero characters like that.

The cope that there is no difference between a CoC user & a non-CoC user ended long ago in Wano when CoC started being weaponized.
It definitely matters, ESPECIALLY at the top tier level where the CoC users can weaponize it.

Again, from a thematic standpoint DREAMPOWER will never be surpassed by willpower in a story about DREAMS. People need to take off the powerscaling glasses and view it from a literal standpoint.

Kaido is not a good guy, authors almost never speak through villains. In fact most of the times villains are supposed to be unreliable narrators.

Yeah no else commented about something else
If you can point out who else made a comment then go ahead
 
Rayleigh > Gaban
Gaban doesn’t have to be as strong as the two to be part of the main group
He was much closer to them than the 4th strong guy
There’s really nothing that says they are dead equal in strength, not this chapter nor 1000 chapters of canon
Standing shoulder to shoulder, King Roger, his strong right arm and firstmate, partner since day one Rayleigh, and his left arm and brain, Gaban
 
Power scaling brain rot if you think comparing different crews structures means comparing different crews strength.
Your post about strength comparing calamities dynamic to the pirate king crew? It's a fact that Kaido is head and shoulders above his commanders just like the big mom pirates while this is not the case for the Roger pirates as shown in the chapter.
 
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