Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1139 : “The Mountain Eater”

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Save us TCB

 

[kekaro]

no , I meant that if u remove Rayleigh from that panel it still wouldn't have mattered cause being paired with Roger is more than enough hype for gabban

Oda respects old figures way too much he wouldt skipped over someone talking about rogers crew

Same when he brings up often sakazuki unprompted

 

[zenox]

Sorry to correct you but "au même titre" means "legendary figure like the other two". In this sentence it doesn't mean = equal in strength.

bro bodied him in French too

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Gaban is solid himself and is about teach these young cocky pirates a lesson, the fact Luffy dealt with Kaido was inconsequential to him.
But man what Rayleigh did here is a work of art. This is actually real business, he went there and threatened the biggest scum running the seas, knowing very well he’s most likely losing his life if this turns into a real fight
”behave yourselves and quietly leave the island” not a single soul there is muttering a word if even Blackbeard reacted this way
He wants no business with Rayleigh, young or old and washed up

I respect what you are saying, i think no one downplays Gaban, i already said he's a strong BUT i don't think Oda would make Old Rayleigh with army of giants saying :

" No one can stop Loki "

Bro? Loki who Shanks could catch? Rayleigh who could stop Kizaru on his track? Teach who wanted smoke with Law but not old Rayleigh knowing even if he won that would have costed him greatly?
Ain't no admiral level threat being treated like that ! ( I don't say he would win against Admirals but he's there )

 

[SakazOuki]

Imagine thinking Sanji will ever be as strong as Luffy

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

“Here’s three characters who are grouped together, but it doesn’t mean that they are all equals.”

”Here’s another three characters who are grouped together, but it doesn’t mean they are all equals.”

You - BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS FOURTH CHARACTER WHO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE COMPARISONS!

What about Oden? Who cares, doesn‘t have anything to do with what I’m saying. If you can’t see why I’m comparing two groups of three characters whose names are literally King/Queen/Jack and Gold/Silver/Copper that ain’t my problem.

Why are you ignoring the context of chapter? The giants are talking about strength when grouping Roger/Ray/Gaban together. Not unless you want to entertain that Gaban is somehow as famous as Roger despite the strawhats proving this wrong in the chapter.

Furthermore if you read Wano, King/Queen are presented as peers and close in power as with Zoro, Marco and Aramakis comments while we saw that jack see's King and Queen as big brothers showing he's beneath.

Now I know you're going to get stun locked and complain how Queen is weak because he lost to Sanji and King is super duper strong because he fought Zoro lol.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

New translations


Good good ...we got few more days of content

Let me get my popcorns ready

Faced them just to be proven right

 

[Julius]

Imagine thinking Sanji will ever be as strong as Luffy

Rivals fighting together offscreen, you love to see it

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

What are you even talking about lmfao

What remained of the Zolo fan’s mind finally broke after this chapter I guess

 

[ConquistadoR]

and will still be a failure in front of the actual guy who succeeds

the guy with the awakened df lol

And with Conquerors Haki... lmao

 

[Garp the Fist]

Why are you ignoring the context of chapter? The giants are talking about strength when grouping Roger/Ray/Gaban together. Not unless you want to entertain that Gaban is somehow as famous as Roger despite the strawhats proving this wrong in the chapter.

Furthermore if you read Wano, King/Queen are presented as peers and close in power as with Zoro, Marco and Aramakis comments while we saw that jack see's King and Queen as big brothers showing he's beneath.

Now I know you're going to get stun locked and complain how Queen is weak because he lost to Sanji and King is super duper strong because he fought Zoro lol.

You are missing the point spectacularly.

I could be talking about East Blue fodder called Ein, Zwei and Drei and it would not matter.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Oh I see the point you’re trying to make lmfao.

This is the Viz:

Same kanji was used for :
Jimbei stood shoulder to shoulder to Arlong

Buggy stood shoulder to shoulder to Emperor Shanks

Oden stood shoulder to shoulder to Rogerbeard

And sandman said nothing shows it's a strength comparison

 

[Nerve74]

It's not. Sandman explained that the statement with Roger is ambiguous, like the arlong, oden etc one.

While the first statement with Rayleigh definetetly refers to strength and its hard to say who's stronger.

These are sandman words.

Basically you all could had Ray ~ Roger confirmed at least, while you only got Ray ~ Scopper and them being comparable as legend but not strength.

Roger > Ray ~ Scopper is CANON.

Dude. We have the official translation. "AFTER Rayleigh". No mention of strength. No mention of equality. Its over.

 

[kekaro]

And with Conquerors Haki... lmao

Not that i disagree with you but what does conquered the sea means in this context?
Like we know from the Oden flashback PK = reaching laugh tale and coming back, they literal say so. And we know Roger didnt challange and beat everyone on his way from the big mom stuff so it was not a luffy type "i will beat every admiral, yonko" and so on either
So whats Roos win condition here exactly, that a captain/leader without CoC reaches Laugh tale?

 

[Pringles]

No it's not lmao, Spanish version is just like TCB same with Portugues

I'm Spanish you dumbass. It means the same shit, you are just nitpicking random details.

"Ese hombre estaba a la par con Silvers Rayleigh is literally the same shit as "after the first mate, Silvers Rayleigh, this man was known as the Pirate King's left arm."

"After the first mate" = "like the first mate"

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Well Sanjino sisters, it was nice playing along with the nika = Zoro = Sanji joke for the past few days, but it looks like we're back to the reality of Zoro >> nika > Kekji

 

[SakazOuki]

I respect what you are saying, i think no one downplays Gaban, i already said he's a strong BUT i don't think Oda would make Old Rayleigh with army of giants saying :

" No one can stop Loki "

Bro? Loki who Shanks could catch? Rayleigh who could stop Kizaru on his track? Teach who wanted smoke with Law but not old Rayleigh knowing even if he won that would have costed him greatly?
Ain't no admiral level threat being treated like that ! ( I don't say he would win Admirals but he's there )

Loki himself is an enigma, note how they don’t say no one can fight Loki, they say no one can stop him, it’s like they are referring to some ginormous beast whom once unshackled just doesn’t stop rampaging destroying everything in his path, he thinks of himself as a world destroyer and he’s not bluffing, he is a very serious character with all these hints
A single rampage, we are talking about a few days at sea, and the government issued a special 2.6 bil bounty on his head, then tried to recruit him in as a celestial dragon..

Shanks didn’t fight him 1v1, nothing implies that, Loki is a rampaging beast and Shanks set up a net to capture him
@Owl Ki @Tyki_Mikk

 

[zenox]

And with Conquerors Haki... lmao

the entire conflict of egghead was solved with a simple coc blast lmfao

 

[Julius]

Same kanji was used for :
Jimbei stood shoulder to shoulder to Arlong

Buggy stood shoulder to shoulder to Emperor Shanks

Oden stood shoulder to shoulder to Rogerbeard

And sandman said nothing shows it's a strength comparison

 

[L57]

Loki himself is an enigma, note how they don’t say no one can fight Loki, they say no one can stop him, it’s like they are referring to some ginormous beast whom once unshackled just doesn’t stop rampaging destroying everything in his path, he thinks of himself as a world destroyer and he’s not bluffing, he is a very serious character with all these hints
A single rampage, we are talking about a few days at sea, and the government issued a special 2.6 bil bounty on his head, then tried to recruit him in as a celestial dragon..

Shanks didn’t fight him 1v1, nothing implies that, Loki is a rampaging beast and Shanks set up a net to capture him
@Owl Ki @Tyki_Mikk

The castle showed hints of lokis power tho
Some big claws marks on the wall