Volume 111 - Discussion Thread (March 4th, 2025)

[U c 4 up da idly]

So you think he did all of that, then somehow ran into shanks and got spanked in a matter of days? We literally see him in PH.

you’re making the world a lot smaller

Kidd could have gotten spank by shanks and then went to wci which is believable as I doubt the RHP have the network to send news unlike BMP

 

[[No Name]]

That's all? Really?

 

[Paragorn]

Not that it matters because power scaling is worthless with Oda not giving a shit about power consistency and logic.

Yeah, and Admiral/Yonkou/Zoro/Kidd/Doffy fans still in their eternal agenda war in 100+ pages after an sbs.

Oda doesn't even realize that everytime he brings back Ace or any character realeted to Ace(Hanafuda), he unconsciously puts more kerosene in the Marineford Powescaling debate.

 

[Roo]

Kidd could have gotten spank by shanks and then went to wci which is believable as I doubt the RHP have the network to send news unlike BMP

He lost his arm after raiding WCI

 

[JoNdule]

Kinda cool when you realise Hanafuda and Doflamingo (Joker) probably were both serving Kaido at the same time before Kuma took over that role.

Even cooler when you realize Ace and Luffy both took them out as siblings. Oda should have included Hanafuda in the Ace/Wano FB, that would have been neat.

When did Smile business start ? 3 or 4 years ago?

Hanafuda got beaten 4-3 years ago

 

[Buusatan94]

Oda never has enough of ace, doesn't he?

 

[Paperchampion23]

When did Smile business start ? 3 or 4 years ago?

Hanafuda got beaten 4-3 years ago

Around the paramount war based on Doflamingo's dialog Pre-TS so that would track. Kaido needed an alternative to Hanafuda. Pretty cool imo

 

[Cross_Marian]

Ace is really a creator's pet. It's really annoying.

He’s the Charizard of the One Piece Universe
Overused and it makes him less likeable
I mean we get it, it’s enough damn

 

[Buusatan94]

He’s the Charizard of the One Piece Universe
Overused and it makes him less likeable
I mean we get it, it’s enough damn

And it doesn't really make him look better, because giving more awesome powers and feats in flashbacks or SBS can't erase his not so great performances against BB and Akainu.

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

Sure & Jack was sent to capture the man who defeated Katakuri & Law.

Jack > Katakuri???

Jack just happened to be in area while a drunk kaido sent him on a suicide mission and it's not even the first time that Jack does this.

Compared to Cracker who sent with full intel of the situation even showed to be a major obstacle to Luffy. Just look at egghead where kizaru an admiral and the gorosei were sent to deal with Luffy not some random schmucks.

 

[nik87]

I think unlike Luffy, Kid would as example defeat Doflamingo or Cracker without any help.

I sincerely hope you are trolling...

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

When did Smile business start ? 3 or 4 years ago?

Hanafuda got beaten 4-3 years ago

2 years ago unless caesar was working in the lab while Akainu and Kuzan were fighting it out

 

[Veku]

Urouge defeated Snack too, but complete got wrecked by Cracker, showing the gap between Cracker and Snakc lvl.

I think based on the power:
Cracker>Perospero>Snack.

Snack is a YC4lvl at best, can´t fight off YC3lvl characters.
I think Kid was stronger than Luffy until the Katakuri battle.

Kid had more skills and better arsenal of phyiscal skills.
I think unlike Luffy, Kid would as example defeat Doflamingo or Cracker without any help.

He's back

 

[Julius]

Kinda mid SBS ngl, lets hope theres something more interesting..

The Admirals really were saving its face

Still better than what we used to get prior to all of that

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Any Ace scale is technically upscale for the goat


Ace beat a warlord stronger than Doffy
@Elder Lee Hung @SakazOuki @Kurozumi Wiwi @MarineHQ

Marineford Ace > the Roger who beat Rox. That said,

Where did we get this from?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Urouge defeated Snack too, but complete got wrecked by Cracker, showing the gap between Cracker and Snakc lvl.

I think based on the power:
Cracker>Perospero>Snack.

Snack is a YC4lvl at best, can´t fight off YC3lvl characters.
I think Kid was stronger than Luffy until the Katakuri battle.

Kid had more skills and better arsenal of phyiscal skills.
I think unlike Luffy, Kid would as example defeat Doflamingo or Cracker without any help.

Nah, Perospero would’ve been promoted if he was strong enough to be a commander. He’s not too old either given Katakuri is two years his junior.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Marineford Ace > the Roger who beat Rox. That said,

Where did we get this from?

SBS - Hanafuda (the warlord Ace beat) clashed with Kaido and was respected by him

 

[ConquistadoR]

Jack just happened to be in area while a drunk kaido sent him on a suicide mission and it's not even the first time that Jack does this.

Compared to Cracker who sent with full intel of the situation even showed to be a major obstacle to Luffy. Just look at egghead where kizaru an admiral and the gorosei were sent to deal with Luffy not some random schmucks.

It was the exact same thing you dumb idiot.

Cracker was sent cuz Smoothie & Katakuri were not at the Chateau yet. And even Big Mom did not truly believe Cracker along with the Homies in the forest & Brulee will be able to stop Luffy lmfao

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

P1 and Ulti dad (also Kaido's rival) killed by nameless fodder pirates

No wonder they got clapped by WsW underlings

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

SBS - Hanafuda (the warlord Ace beat) clashed with Kaido and was respected by him

So did Moriah, who cares. Kaido is trash.

That said, yeah Ace was always highly underrated, Ace isn’t losing to Cracker or Jack.