Spoiler One Piece Chapter 987 Spoilers Discussion

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Unless Akainu coats his magma with haki then he won't hurt Kaido.
Bro, the Red Scabbards with their Ryuo - nearly not as strong as Oden's by far - managed to penetrate Kaido's skin at least. Heck, Kiku even pierced through his hands...

Akainu's AP is massively superior than them, even without Ryuo.

I know that Kaido does not look that impressive on the current chapter/spoilers but you simply have to accept that his durability does not make him invincible.

If Oda gave Kaido and BM top tier haki, they will be gods, way Unbeatable.
Rn, Kaido's getting pressured by foes significantly weaker than top tiers.

If he does not have something up his sleeve, Kaido really wouldn't look that impressive against other top tiers.
 
I didn't say they didn't
If they wanna hurt him they need to go close combat and punch or use their elemental swords almost all of their ranged attacks will be useless
Something to note though is Kaido didn't use his own CoA to block. So it's possible that even Advanced CoA doesn't work. Only the internal destruction one works. Which means only Luffy gets to beat him.
 
Now that the raid has officially started....It will be good if Samurais can take care of gifters and other BP while SHs, Kidd pirates and Heart Pirates can proceed towards the stage....
But it's kinda difficult for the Samurais as BP number 30 k while Samurais number nearly 5k.... Hope the heavy hitters in the alliance clean up fodders as quick as they can xD....
 
I honestly see this as a big W for Kaido and yonko fans :kayneshrug:
Fujitora and greenbull were pushed to high or extreme diff by a Yc1 level and 3 people who i would hesitate to call veteran level even if people wanna say they were nerfed there is still 2 of them and if it's true that green bull is a zoan he wouldn't need to nerf himself he would be able to fight at 100% or close to it
I guess nerfed fuji would still be able to use more than 60% of his power so the combined admiral team was using 120% to 160% of what 1 admiral is capable of
And now Kaido has been penetrated the excuse of durability cannot be used now and he is gonna take on 3 yc 4 to yc3 level dudes and a veteran and 2 yc2 to yc1 level ( sulong dukes ) and Kinemon, Raizo, and Kiku plus 200 sulong minks this is a force almost 3x or 4x the one that Fuji and greenbull fought if he beats them without hybrid form or awakening which he will probably i don't know how admiral vs yonko will be a question afterwards
 
People just expressing their rage in that way because of Oda's bad writing but it doesn't mean that they mean it. Kaido's feats got overshadowed by Kinemon lol. I'm joking.
That the scabbards stabbed kaido isnt bad writing. They wanted to avenge their master by taking his advice and putting their soul into 1 attack. And they did that. If the red scabbards had no confrontation with kaido this arc. Then that would be bad writing.
 
Next week is break and the current chapter humiliated Kaido even more? Man, these 2 weeks will be funny af lol.

Tbh, I really hope that Kaido has AdCoA as well. At least his Haki would even protect him from other AdCoA attacks - making his durability even more impressive. Because, at this point, Kaido's durability is really not that special if other top tiers could easily damage him with their most casual attacks.

Imagine if it was Akainu magmapunching Kaido instead of the Red Scabbards - dude already would blow a huge hole on Kaido's chest.
Kaido has taken barely no damage from this sneak attack from 9 characters some of whom are YC3+ level, even dealing with Oden shock.

He most likely has barrier haki as even Hyogoro and the scabbards have it, he definitely doesn't have penetration haki, but neither do the scabbards.

Dragon Zoan regen as we have seen from inferior Ryu Ryu no Mi Zoans Ulti and Page One is significant so his endurance will be insane.

Jinbe blocked a magma fist. I don't see Jinbe blocking a sneak attack from 9 scabbards.
 
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Bro, the Red Scabbards with their Ryuo - nearly not as strong as Oden's by far - managed to penetrate Kaido's skin at least. Heck, Kiku even pierced through his hands...

Akainu's AP is massively superior than them, even without Ryuo.

I know that Kaido does not look that impressive on the current chapter/spoilers but you simply have to accept that his durability does not make him invincible.



Rn, Kaido's getting pressured by foes significantly weaker than top tiers.

If he does not have something up his sleeve, Kaido really wouldn't look that impressive against other top tiers.
It's not about AP alone
It's about AP + ryou

G4 has more AP than retainers yet did nothing.
And since when does Akainu has AP >all 9 retainers? Should I remind you that Jinbei and Marco blocked Akainu without budding

Y'all keep stating fake news, Akainu AP isn't that great compared to Oden and Rocks trio.

This combined is compared to Oden attack, you think pre Udon Luffy or Jinbei or Marco can block this? No they won't.

Oden has better AP and CoA than all 9 combined.

Your first mistake is think Akainu without ryou will damage kaido
The second is Akainu having vastly superior AP.
If he did, he would overpower Jinbei or Marco like Skinny BM sent Jinbei flying.
 
Bro, the Red Scabbards with their Ryuo - nearly not as strong as Oden's by far - managed to penetrate Kaido's skin at least. Heck, Kiku even pierced through his hands...

Akainu's AP is massively superior than them, even without Ryuo.

I know that Kaido does not look that impressive on the current chapter/spoilers but you simply have to accept that his durability does not make him invincible.



Rn, Kaido's getting pressured by foes significantly weaker than top tiers.

If he does not have something up his sleeve, Kaido really wouldn't look that impressive against other top tiers.
Pressured? What manga you reading ma Dude?
 
I honestly see this as a big W for Kaido and yonko fans :kayneshrug:
Fujitora and greenbull were pushed to high or extreme diff by a Yc1 level and 3 people who i would hesitate to call veteran level even if people wanna say they were nerfed there is still 2 of them and if it's true that green bull is a zoan he wouldn't need to nerf himself he would be able to fight at 100% or close to it
I guess nerfed fuji would still be able to use more than 60% of his power so the combined admiral team was using 120% to 160% of what 1 admiral is capable of
And now Kaido has been penetrated the excuse of durability cannot be used now and he is gonna take on 3 yc 4 to yc3 level dudes and a veteran and 2 yc2 to yc1 level ( sulong dukes ) and Kinemon, Raizo, and Kiku plus 200 sulong minks this is a force almost 3x or 4x the one that Fuji and greenbull fought if he beats them without hybrid form or awakening which he will probably i don't know how admiral vs yonko will be a question afterwards
extreme diff in a fight you didnt see
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yall see this shit?
kaido bleed from kinemon kiku .just a scratch
fujitora gets a bandage from sabo and other revo commanders - extreme diff . lmao . get yourselves ready in battledome for the next 2 weeks. all I will say.
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