Questions & Mysteries Emperor title vs. WGS title?

Emperor title vs. WGS title?


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#21
Yes but there are 4 emperors and only one WSS meaning title as title has more meaning.

If you are asking if Mihawk himself is superior to yonkos like Blackbeard , Shanks, Whitebeard, Kaido then answer is no.
Mihawk is a pirate himself, yet Emperors are considered as ''great pirates''.

If someone becomes ''greatest marksman'' or ''greatest axeman'', are they going to be superior to Emperors as well?

What are you yapping about Erkek ? Who hurt you?
It looks like you ZKKloser got hurt since you don't answer the question instead of crying :vistalaugh:

I know ZKKlosers can't speak proper English, but you can still try reading the first post, and see what I asked there.
 
#22
Mihawk is a pirate himself, yet Emperors are considered as ''great pirates''.

If someone becomes ''greatest marksman'' or ''greatest axeman'', are they going to be superior to Emperors as well?


It looks like you ZKKloser got hurt since you don't answer the question instead of crying :vistalaugh:

I know ZKKlosers can't speak proper English, but you can still try reading the first post, and see what I asked there.
You have a point, given drastic difference in portrayal at Marineford between WSS and yonko and all other stuff, I changed my mind yonko is superior title indeed.
 
#25
Which title is superior?

Oda already showed us which by saying WGS Mihawk hide behind Emperor Buggy but lets hear arguments:



I can't imagine Luffy would say; ''Since your new boss will be PK, if you can't even become an Emperor of the Sea, I would be disappointed''.



If WGS was equal to Emperor title, then Mihawk wouldn't mind being an Emperor since it wouldn't matter to him if he was or if he wasn't, but he specifically says he doesn't want it because being WGS is more peaceful, meaning its safer for him.

Mihawk couldn't even find out the power difference between WB in Marineford because he was too safe in the first half of grandline:



Meanwhile Emperors constantly fought vs WB, their job was more difficult:



Emperors powers are so influential, they have to make ''Warlords'', so Warlords could fight against Emperors alongside with Marines:



Mihawk is a pirate, yet Emperors are called ''great pirates'', WGS isn't enough to make a pirate ''great pirate'':

''Luffy is a great pirate now'':
I mean, Posthawk was happy taking orders by the marines and being their lapdog..
 
#28
I mean, Posthawk was happy taking orders by the marines and being their lapdog..
Especially considering he hates Marines as a ''Marine Hunter'' then joining Warlords is a massive L as well.
Mihawk could become emperor but he chose not to and didn’t have interest in it.

None of the emperors can become the WSS.

So there’s your answer I guess.
Buggy become an Emperor because they think Buggy > Mihawk.
Without someone being stronger than Mihawk, they have no reason to declare that someone as Emperor.
Crocodile and Mihawk's partnership was equal partnership, if Crocodile become Mihawk's underling then maybe this could be a possibility, but that was never the case, so Mihawk couldn't be an Emperor.

Besides, Mihawk himself said Emperor is more dangerous title, thats why he doesn't want it. Literally confirms staying as Emperor is more difficult than staying as WGS.

-Emperors fights Zolo's superior Luffy
-Mihawk's toughest fight is either Zolo or Shiryu, both are underling of Emperor.

If Mihawk was Emperor by some chance, his opponent will be more powerful Luffy.

So staying as an Emperor is more difficult.
 
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#30
Shanks got a movie, what if Mihawk also get a movie?
Not canon of course, but we will get to see his "sword skills."

Has anyone seen Mihawk's moves in any OP game? I have seen some videos of Shanks and Luffy.

I understand why people like Mihawk, but for me, I have to see how bad ass he is "on panels", fightig someone, not just because Oda wrote it.

>>>>> Mihawk fighting any top 5 character(s) and winning in past or present will prove his GOAT status <<<<<
 
#31
"If WGS was equal to Emperor title, then Mihawk wouldn't mind being an Emperor since it wouldn't matter to him if he was or if he wasn't, but he specifically says he doesn't want it because being WGS is more peaceful, meaning its safer for him."

"If WGS was equal to emperor title" You haven't even clarified in what metric it would be equal to a Yonko title.

Mihawk's title already surpasses everyone in it's metric, because we have an example of Mihawk being stated to be superior to a Yonko in the very metric his title suggests.

So his title objectively makes him superior to Yonko objectively, this isn't something anyone can argue against. If someone does it's better to just ignore them.

Even if one were to say they mean which is superior overall, it's redundant because the overall purpose of Mihawk's title in the story imposes his superiority in the aspect of his title in the narrative, which is based off individual strength.
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This Erkan kid seems to try to use Mihawk's disinterest, to claim that Mihawk is too weak willed to, or is incapable of successfully holding a Yonko title because of said disinterest. But he cannot prove this objectively, everything he says is just his opinion, and subjective interpretation of the panels he posts.

If it wasn't clear enough, Mihawk's bounty is said to be suitable for the position of his title, and his bounty is already within the realm of Yonko.

He then tries to argue that because Mihawk minds how having a Yonko title would impact his lifestyle, it must mean that his reputation as the WSS must be inferior to that of a Yonko, because being the WSS is safer.

This argumentation is laughable, because it ignores the entire history of Mihawk's rise to becoming the WSS, as if the path Mihawk chose wasn't already that dangerous to begin with. But if Zoro's journey to WSS is any indication, of course it is very dangerous to progress to that level of strength. And the reason Mihawk went through that journey is because of his interest in swordsmanship.

And so saying the WGS title is safer is a redundant point, the WGS title is simply a culmination of his history of battle and reputation as being the best. Just because no one is good enough to fuck with Mihawk, which is why Mihawk is tired of life and waiting for Zoro, is not a good point to say the path Mihawk tread wasn't on the same level of danger as becoming a Yonko, just because he's not fighting currently.

As well as this, after losing his Warlord title, he's being chased by marines anyway, even when he's not a Yonko.

Actually we know that most people going after a yonko, don't even make it to the Yonko. Because they get bodied by the crews alliances and territories or crews before they can even reach them. So having the position of Yonko and that coming with having the territory and alliances and crews, actually guarantees more safety in this aspect.

Erkan could choose to point out that shanks had fodder as his fleet, but he is an outlier, so this point would also be redundant. He also has his most well rounded crew, and cross guild is far from that currently.

Mihawk simply doesn't care to manage all the other political responsibilities a Yonko has. WSS is not a political title. It's one based on individual strength.

Therefore he took the route of swordsmanship, used piracy as a tool, and still ended up in the realm of Yonko in terms of reputation.
It's in Mihawk's favour to gain the benefits of a Yonko by using buggy, and not having to manage it all.
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Honestly anything this Erkan kid says has as much worth as the dump I took this morning
 
#32
"If WGS was equal to Emperor title, then Mihawk wouldn't mind being an Emperor since it wouldn't matter to him if he was or if he wasn't, but he specifically says he doesn't want it because being WGS is more peaceful, meaning its safer for him."

"If WGS was equal to emperor title" You haven't even clarified in what metric it would be equal to a Yonko title.

Mihawk's title already surpasses everyone in it's metric, because we have an example of Mihawk being stated to be superior to a Yonko in the very metric his title suggests.

So his title objectively makes him superior to Yonko objectively, this isn't something anyone can argue against. If someone does it's better to just ignore them.

Even if one were to say they mean which is superior overall, it's redundant because the overall purpose of Mihawk's title in the story imposes his superiority in the aspect of his title in the narrative, which is based off individual strength.
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This Erkan kid seems to try to use Mihawk's disinterest, to claim that Mihawk is too weak willed to, or is incapable of successfully holding a Yonko title because of said disinterest. But he cannot prove this objectively, everything he says is just his opinion, and subjective interpretation of the panels he posts.

If it wasn't clear enough, Mihawk's bounty is said to be suitable for the position of his title, and his bounty is already within the realm of Yonko.

He then tries to argue that because Mihawk minds how having a Yonko title would impact his lifestyle, it must mean that his reputation as the WSS must be inferior to that of a Yonko, because being the WSS is safer.

This argumentation is laughable, because it ignores the entire history of Mihawk's rise to becoming the WSS, as if the path Mihawk chose wasn't already that dangerous to begin with. But if Zoro's journey to WSS is any indication, of course it is very dangerous to progress to that level of strength. And the reason Mihawk went through that journey is because of his interest in swordsmanship.

And so saying the WGS title is safer is a redundant point, the WGS title is simply a culmination of his history of battle and reputation as being the best. Just because no one is good enough to fuck with Mihawk, which is why Mihawk is tired of life and waiting for Zoro, is not a good point to say the path Mihawk tread wasn't on the same level of danger as becoming a Yonko, just because he's not fighting currently.

As well as this, after losing his Warlord title, he's being chased by marines anyway, even when he's not a Yonko.

Actually we know that most people going after a yonko, don't even make it to the Yonko. Because they get bodied by the crews alliances and territories or crews before they can even reach them. So having the position of Yonko and that coming with having the territory and alliances and crews, actually guarantees more safety in this aspect.

Erkan could choose to point out that shanks had fodder as his fleet, but he is an outlier, so this point would also be redundant. He also has his most well rounded crew, and cross guild is far from that currently.

Mihawk simply doesn't care to manage all the other political responsibilities a Yonko has. WSS is not a political title. It's one based on individual strength.

Therefore he took the route of swordsmanship, used piracy as a tool, and still ended up in the realm of Yonko in terms of reputation.
It's in Mihawk's favour to gain the benefits of a Yonko by using buggy, and not having to manage it all.
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Honestly anything this Erkan kid says has as much worth as the dump I took this morning
Holy mental gymnastic
:nikalaugh:

Imagine saying that WGS is above yonko if he had to become Marine's lapdog to be left alone..
What a hunter, choosing to obey the ones he's meant to hunt.

As always, the strongest only answer to themselves. Luffy takes no orders, Kaido takes no orders.
Mihawk has to obey Buggy and ask Crocodile's permission to sweat and shit at the thoughts of fighting yonkos.
:shame:
 
#33
Doesn’t matter if he was yonko or not it’s a fact he spent majority of his life living under protection of wb hiding behind his shadows until he could stand on his own.
Yes, I'm talking about Yonko not needing protection, which is true, BB waited for decades just so he can become a Yonko, meanwhile Mihawk the WGS needed protection from the WG and now from Cross Guild.
 
#34
To be WSS you gotta beat the man to be the man, or be crowned by the world. Becoming an Emperor is much more difficult and complicated.

What even is this thread? Imagine an Emperor serving the WG. :suresure:

Emperors are their own sovereign entities. They rule the New World because they took it, not because the WG let them.
 
#38
Holy mental gymnastic
:nikalaugh:

Imagine saying that WGS is above yonko if he had to become Marine's lapdog to be left alone..
What a hunter, choosing to obey the ones he's meant to hunt.

As always, the strongest only answer to themselves. Luffy takes no orders, Kaido takes no orders.
Mihawk has to obey Buggy and ask Crocodile's permission to sweat and shit at the thoughts of fighting yonkos.
:shame:
You say it's mental gymnastic but look at the first line you say

"Imagine saying that WGS is above yonko " In swordsmanship, which is his title.

You don't think Mihawk isn't objectively superior to Yonko in the essence of his title?

Or you just admitted you didn't read what I said, yet you claim I'm making mental gymnastics.

It's easy for me to identify a baboon such as yourself who makes a low effort post exposing they either didn't read, or failed to grasp what I said
 
#39
Yes, I'm talking about Yonko not needing protection, which is true, BB waited for decades just so he can become a Yonko, meanwhile Mihawk the WGS needed protection from the WG and now from Cross Guild.
Who will really do the protecting when shit gets real lol
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Did WGS refuse the Yonko title or not? :DeepThink:
Worthless in Takanome eyes :jordanmf:
 
#40
You say it's mental gymnastic but look at the first line you say

"Imagine saying that WGS is above yonko " In swordsmanship, which is his title.

You don't think Mihawk isn't objectively superior to Yonko in the essence of his title?

Or you just admitted you didn't read what I said, yet you claim I'm making mental gymnastics.

It's easy for me to identify a baboon such as yourself who makes a low effort post exposing they either didn't read, or failed to grasp what I said
I insist.
You claimed that WGS in its metric is above yonko.
I assume you mean strength, and then I question this strength.
Simple as that.
If being WGS meant being strong, i cannot imagine someone stronger than a yonko as a pirate being a dog of the ones he's meant to hunt.

As I said, mental gymnastics
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The guy with WGS title refused Yonko title.
He didnt want it. You didnt put 2 and 2 together?
Source?
Because he was more than happy to beg to be the marines lapdog
 
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