Controversial General Political Discussion

[Jew D. Boy]

Keep lookin at the man like he is a fool, see where it gets ya.

I'm very serious when I tell you that the man is no fool and control his agenda perfectly. This scam that is blinding you will bite you all very hard.

Look around, man, it already has!! I don’t know why you’re trying to give him any credit, or acting like he’s GOING to play all of us when he’s been doing it for a decade now…but he has always been reliant on other people to push him in a certain direction, starting with that horrible kike Roy Cohn, then another Hebrew race traitor Charles Kushner, then Mark Burnett, then Steve Bannon, and finally ANOTHER vile Jewboy (Miller). He is possibly the least knowledgeable/coherent person in his political OR business endeavors, other people are manipulating him and he’s more than happy to dance for them if it means he gets what he wants

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

notice how i didn't' say anything about colonialism

I just pointed out the huge flaw in your worldview.

You're not very intelligent

 

[Logiko]

First term, he actually had no fucking clue and no plan.

This time, some old white dudes are whispering in his ear.

You're taking Baggy the Clown for Light Yagami.


This might be heading the same way, but the characters are very much different.

No. I'm not. I'm well aware of the wolf that he is. He also knew exactly what he was doing on his first term. The entire first term was a setup of his second.

I'm scared once more at the naivety here. I warned you once before all of this happened, no one listened and I was laughed at. It doesn't really matter as this is but a forum, but it's important for all your politicizations.

I'm telling you now that the guy is in full control. That he is not the stupid man that you think he is. It's important to understand how he is playing the system. How he controls words to make you laugh at him.

And EVEN if he was dumb. Which is highly unlikely. We should absolutely NOT act like the guy is stupid.

Look around, man, it already has!!

No it has not

What you got are just a few cities under army control, a concentration camp and an inflation. It's already the start of fascism. But I don't think you understand how FUCKING WORST it can become.

I'm not giving him credit, I'm telling you to wake up in front of the danger and stop looking at the guy as if his actions are stupid based. They are not. They are planned supremacist and libertarian politics that are meant to make him richer and put the entire country in the hands of white supremacists and other fascists.

If you keep looking at the guy like he is some stupid fk, you will end up surprised at his everymove and it will be 10 times harder to fight back. He is not just a man who listen to the right people, he is a man who chose to be surrounded by fascist supremacists.

It's like thinking Orochi is just a moron who is just doing bad shit because he is dumb. No. he is doing bad shit because he has an agenda. Or AT THE VERY LEAST, we should look at the situation like he has one - even if for some reason it's not the case.

Fascism is no game. It's absolute destruction.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

First genocide in history. Makes me sick to even remember it. We should talk about this everyday !

We shoukd bring back the roman empire

 

[Jew D. Boy]

No. I'm not. I'm well aware of the wolf that he is. He also knew exactly what he was doing on his first term. The entire first term was a setup of his second.

I'm scared once more at the naivety here. I warned you once before all of this happened, no one listened and I was laughed at. It doesn't really matter as this is but a forum, but it's important for all your politicizations.

I'm telling you now that the guy is in full control. That he is not the stupid man that you think he is. It's important to understand how he is playing the system. How he controls words to make you laugh at him.

And EVEN if he was dumb. Which is highly unlikely. We should absolutely NOT act like the guy is stupid.



No it has not

What you got are just a few cities under army control, a concentration camp and an inflation. It's already the start of fascism. But I don't think you understand how FUCKING WORST it can become.

I'm not giving him credit, I'm telling you to wake up in front of the danger and stop looking at the guy as if his actions are stupid based. They are not. They are planned supremacist and libertarian politics that are meant to make him richer and put the entire country in the hands of white supremacists and other fascists.

If you keep looking at the guy like he is some stupid fk, you will end up surprised at his everymove and it will be 10 times harder to fight back. He is not just a man who listen to the right people, he is a man who chose to be surrounded by fascist supremacists.

It's like thinking Orochi is just a moron who is just doing bad shit because he is dumb. No. he is doing bad shit because he has an agenda. Or AT THE VERY LEAST, we should look at the situation like he has one - even if for some reason it's not the case.

Not only do I understand all that, I’ve said as much multiple times in this thread and offline, I know he’s a fucking fascist…and as a Jew whose grandparents survived the Holocaust, I am acutely aware of the tactics they used during that period, as well as how they’re being implemented in this country right now. A rotten fish certainly stinks from the head, but that doesn’t mean the scales aren’t contributing to the stench; they’re ALL culpable and complicit, but we shouldn’t split hairs on whether or not Donnie’s intelligent when it is patently obvious he isn’t, the people behind him are, which is admittedly much more dangerous!!

 

[Logiko]

Sorry If I sound a bit alarming. But it feels like the first time wasn't enough. So I'm a little scared that you guys are still looking at the situation as if its some kind of convergence of bad people...

.. and not a convergeance of bad agenda.

Not only do I understand all that, I’ve said as much multiple times in this thread and offline, I know he’s a fucking fascist…and as a Jew whose grandparents survived the Holocaust, I am acutely aware of the tactics they used during that period, as well as how they’re being implemented in this country right now. A rotten fish certainly stinks from the head, but that doesn’t mean the scales aren’t contributing to the stench; they’re ALL culpable and complicit, but we shouldn’t split hairs on whether or not Donnie’s intelligent when it is patently obvious he isn’t, the people behind him are, which is admittedly much more dangerous!!

No. An ignorant is not more dangerous than a man with bad intent who knows what they are doing. I'm sorry if it comes as paternalist, but underestimating Trump will hinder any anti-fascist progress... as I explained, the state of sideration will prevent you from thinking ahead.

Things will get worse... and worse.. and worse. The wheel of fascism might not be stopped by a reelection. You might get very lucky, but this is unlikely now.

Think beyond.

 

[Mathias]

@Logiko you just have a different definition of what intelligence means.
No one is denying where the US is heading

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Not only do I understand all that, I’ve said as much multiple times in this thread and offline, I know he’s a fucking fascist…and as a Jew whose grandparents survived the Holocaust, I am acutely aware of the tactics they used during that period, as well as how they’re being implemented in this country right now. A rotten fish certainly stinks from the head, but that doesn’t mean the scales aren’t contributing to the stench; they’re ALL culpable and complicit, but we shouldn’t split hairs on whether or not Donnie’s intelligent when it is patently obvious he isn’t, the people behind him are, which is admittedly much more dangerous!!

He might suffer from cognitive decline in the last years but to attribute EVERYTHING he ever did during his campaigns and while in office wouldn't be clever.
Trump is a shrewd piece of shit.

 

[Logiko]

@Logiko you just have a different definition of what intelligence means.
No one is denying where the US is heading

Look at how Trump has adapted his language pattern to assert his domination. This clew alone should be enough to stop underestimating his wolf factor.

 

[Mathias]

Look at how Trump has adapted his language pattern to assert his domination. This clew alone should be enough to stop underestimating his wolf factor.

And no one really underestimates the threat either. History isn't already written though. The fall of the US democracy isn't unavoidable.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

We shoukd bring back the roman empire

Okay TAC

 

[Mathias]

We shoukd bring back the roman empire

Gotcha Mussolini !

 

[Jew D. Boy]

He might suffer from cognitive decline in the last years but to attribute EVERYTHING he ever did during his campaigns and while in office wouldn't be clever.
Trump is a shrewd piece of shit.

Sorry, I’m just not willing to believe the bullshit; yes, he’s carefully crafted his persona because he’s had decades to refine it and fashion himself as a brilliant businessman, but the cracks are so easy to see without looking too hard. Like I said, he’s always had more clever people behind him and those quasi-Rasputins have always told him how he should operate, which really started with his daddy and continued onwards through all those cronies I mentioned a few posts ago.

 

[Ravagerblade]

You stupid commie. Do you want famine through your continent ? Billions will die if you don't work everyday ! The weekend was granted to us by God himself ! This is the only reason why it works.

I think a happier, well rested not overworked population would do better in the long run, but that's my opinion.
5 day work week may have worked in the past, but it's outdated in many ways/areas.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I think a happier, well rested not overworked population would do better in the long run, but that's my opinion

Nit only your opinion but a well attested fact proven by countless studies

 

[Logiko]

And no one really underestimates the threat either. History isn't already written though. The fall of the US democracy isn't unavoidable.

Yeah we do. Antifascist are called antifascist for a reason. Historian, antifa, activist, we all understand how this world could somber toward a global fascist paradigm.

I'm not telling that history is done. I'm explaining that with the current mindset of thinking that Trump is just a pedophile reactionnary goof who do not understand what he is doing... there is no chance for counter politics and actions to be effective.

If you underestimate an enemy that is 3 time stronger than you, you have no chance. Even if his strenght is only his advisers.

Sorry, I’m just not willing to believe the bullshit; yes, he’s carefully crafted his persona because he’s had decades to refine it and fashion himself as a brilliant businessman, but the cracks are so easy to see without looking too hard. Like I said, he’s always had more clever people behind him and those quasi-Rasputins have always told him how he should operate, which really started with his daddy and continued onwards through all those cronies I mentioned a few posts ago.

Well.. good luck then. I Hope you guys will manage to counter him.

I think a happier, well rested not overworked population would do better in the long run, but that's my opinion.

I love this marxist side of yours. Please, keep it going!

 

[Mathias]

Yeah we do. Antifascist are called antifascist for a reason. Historian, antifa, activist, we all understand how this world could somber toward a global fascist paradigm.

I'm not telling that history is done. I'm explaining that with the current mindset of thinking that Trump is just a pedophile reactionnary goof who do not understand what he is doing... there is no chance for counter politics and actions to be effective.

If you underestimate an enemy that is 3 time stronger than you, you have no chance. Even if his strenght is only his advisers.

I really fail to see where I underestimate him.

I also said that his first term had no plan, AND that this time he has one. But you mix up everything that has been said.

He is dangerous, not intelligent.

 

[Logiko]

I really fail to see where I underestimate him.

I also said that his first term had no plan, AND that this time he has one. But you mix up everything that has been said.

He is dangerous, not intelligent.

- Expecting an ignorant reactionnary to make mistake pushes us to have a specific strategy.
- Expecting a smart fascist to make certain politics will pushes us to adopt a different one.

The entire difference between our mindset and yours is that we have a clearer idea of what he will do next. Not only because he follows the step of project 25, but because we understand (rather some people much more knowledgable than me) understand how capitalism shapes fascism and work with the different system of domination.

- When some will wait for him to apply the next project 25 bullet points of his advisers, others will be already preparing for the moment when he will start to fire on opponents, not just to prevent crime but to shut down any opposition.
- When some will be trying to fight the next anticonstitutionnal laws that he is making, other will be already peparing for armed fighting and start to devopp underground networks of communication to fight back against his future milicias.

> Taking Trump for a fool implies a vision of his reign as a glitch in the capitalist system.
> Taking Trump for who he really is implies the understanding that the guy is a PERFECT product of capitalism and white supremacy.

Yes, you are underestimating Trump. But I'm also telling you that you are underestimating fascism and capitalism as well.

I'm not trying to scare people to create a sideration, but to wake up your politicization so you can spread the word sooner than later.

This is not a glitch. This is not a moron in power. This is capitalism at work.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Yeah we do. Antifascist are called antifascist for a reason. Historian, antifa, activist, we all understand how this world could somber toward a global fascist paradigm.

I'm not telling that history is done. I'm explaining that with the current mindset of thinking that Trump is just a pedophile reactionnary goof who do not understand what he is doing... there is no chance for counter politics and actions to be effective.

If you underestimate an enemy that is 3 time stronger than you, you have no chance. Even if his strenght is only his advisers.



Well.. good luck then. I Hope you guys will manage to counter him.



I love this marxist side of yours. Please, keep it going!

What’s the difference, really? Whether he’s smart or not, the results are the same, so why do we have to quibble over the motivation? He does imbecilic and highly dangerous things every 30 seconds, so whichever of our opinions is correct is immaterial, this shit is happening either way. The reason why there’s no chance for countering him is that we only have two parties, and both of them profit by keeping him in charge - Republicans get all the tax breaks and relaxed regulations their shriveled black hearts can handle, and Democrats get to keep fundraising for “the resistance” without taking any real actions against his administration. If we had an actual opposition force in either the judicial or legislative branches, this nightmare would have been wrapped up in early 2017, so I’m not willing to give him credit for supposedly running the table when nobody else in power is making a play to stop him.

 

[Reborn]

Trump is not playing any 4D chess. This guy is just dumb.

He can't even keep conversation he has with leaders a secret. His statements are getting crazier day by day.

But yes...he's definitely a narcissist but a dumb one.