Controversial General Political Discussion

[Blax Blah]

you can be right wing and be against authoritarianism, nationalism, using violence or intimidation to censor your political opponents, idolizing the political leader and whatnot... and right wingers can be in favor of democracy.

so yeah, there is much more right wingers can be against with fascism than just the "racism" part of it.

Ok but this is the problem:


Be an anti-authoritarian right winger


Support capitalism




Capitalism gets support, which means bosses get support in their ownership of capital, which means their economic interests are encouraged



Their economic interests are:

1. Pay the workers as little as possible

2. Make the products and services cost as much as possible




They are able to follow those economic interests, because capitalism gets support, because the right wing has power



As their economic interests are followed, wages decrease and prices increase


The population gets crushed more and more


Crysis happens



Fascist party blames it on perceived outsiders or supposed secret hidden elites, to distract from the actual issue, which is that the bosses' economic interest is against the population




You, the anti-authoritarian right winger, part of the governement, are arguing with a fascist party, about why the government should not be fascist



Their argument is: capitalism is good, the bosses know what is best for us, following their economic interest is for the best, so let's make the state act in accordance with the capitalists ( the capital owners, the bosses, the major stock holders ), so the world gets better, since capitalism is good



What argument would you have against that?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

k****ng

This is worstgen, you can write killing here
You think thru are censoring normal words when they won't even ban a guy like this in time?

 

[Jew D. Boy]

nah, you were the one shamelessly lying and who now cries because someone called him out.

Directly quoting someone is lying nowadays, what a wonderful world we live in
Also, hasn’t he been doing a racial speed run the last day or two?? The last few pages of this thread are roughly half as long as ones without the unhinged rantings from my ignore list, but based on the responses I can see, looks like he’s been bitching about immigrants taking his job…hmm, a guy who blames foreigners and immigrants for his own failings and refuses to acknowledge their worth as humans…what does that sound like?? What would you call someone like that??

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I don't remember but it doesn't surprise me lol

The guy was a totally different person in this thread. I had a lot of OP discussions with him, and he was always cool. Then I started following here and he's fantasizing about k****ng minorities in India and shit

MonsterKaido's disappointment lol
He only knew tejas as his yonko buddy and then found out he got banned for rampant hare speech against Muslims

 

[Logiko]

no it doesnt. its short for "antifascist action" and is a political movement.

antifascism is not the same as the political movement "antifascist action".

seriously im not going to bother to read the rest of your post

You like being a contradictor do you?

Being antifascist means doing antifascist ACTIONS

It literally means acting actively against fascism. Yes antifa can mean (but you will not see it used always like that as AFA or "antifascist action" in full. it means antifascism action in full or Afa if you want, I simply removed the "action" because it's a repetition for me but that's the same fucking thing. FFS.

You are always doing that. You argue words for absolutely no reason trying to use definition to justify yourself and looking like a goof at the end. I fight reactionnaries gladly. But if there is something that I really can't stand, it's rightist at the center who try to look like a rationnal person by questionning the terminology of leftism.

For your information Einstein. There are people that are far more radical than me (including antifa) who do not even bother with words and use whatever they want and sometimes even invent their own terminology because they don't have the time to argue about dictionnary definitions. You are not more politically aware than those people, trust me.

Now stop contradict me every two second for no reason and listen to the contextual informations I'm providing.

For a French guy you seem to know surprisingly little of the nature of satire

Akai2 framed Sommers as a sexist in his meme.
He's not condoning sexism or gender based violence.
My God loosen up a little. You're like those traditional Christians with a stick in their rear, but the opposite political leaning.

Good satire laugh with, and not against or about. Humor can be interpreted and used. In this case, the fact that the guy was a sexist was not made into a joke, but a simple observation. As such, we don't laugh because the guy who hit a woman is sexist, but because the man that is sexist beat a woman.

Good satire laugh WITH the victim and AGAINST what it denounce or else it's oppressive as in "with the problem" :

For example I remember once saying "Logiko is the type of guy who would call me a Nazi if I disagree with him on 2 out of 100 points". So I think he was using it in that context.

I never called anyone here a Nazi and I don't think I will, people are too soft here, even far rightist do not go that far.

not necessarily by logiko though.

That's because when I call people out here, it's 20% for warning and 80% for wake up calls. When in other media circles calling out is around 90% for warning and 10% for wake up calls.

This means that I don't need you to call you a Nazi, but I will call people reactionnaries. When in other place, it's a necessity to call reactionnary people nazis to protect rapidely other people and spread the knowledge that someone is being a reactionnary. We usually don't mean it in the first degree, it's a way to create a point and a warning rather.

My goat Logiko called me a right winger and ''not a true leftist''

And I stand by it. It was an error for me to consider you an ally.
I'm more dissapointed than anything with you really.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

And I stand by it. It was an error for me to consider you an ally.
I'm more dissapointed than anything with you really.

 

[Logiko]

Nothing is set in stone. I'm willing to continue changing my position about you

 

[Zenos7]

Here is the thing:


Be an anti-authoritarian right winger


Support capitalism




Capitalism gets support, which means bosses get support in their ownership of capital, which means their economic interests are encouraged



Their economic interests are:

1. Pay the workers as little as possible

2. Make the products and services cost as much as possible




They are able to follow those economic interests, because capitalism gets support, because the right wing has power



As their economic interests are followed, wages decrease and prices increase


The population gets crushed more and more


Crysis happens



Fascist party blames it on perceived outsiders or supposed secret hidden elites, to distract from the actual issue, which is that the bosses' economic interest is against the population




You, the anti-authoritarian right winger, part of the governement, are arguing with a fascist aprty, about why the government should not be fascist



Their argument is: capitalism is good, the bosses know what is best for us, following their economic interest is for the best, so let's make the state act in accordance with the capitalists ( the capital owners, the bosses, the major stock holders ), so the world gets better, since capitalism is good



What argument would you have against that?

bro there are right wingers that can be and are against state overreach or censorship of political opponents and who are in favor of individual liberties, freedom of speech, religion. i seriously dont get what your point is with this convoluted hypothetical scenario

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the truth is already out. EVEN IF RyoQ is a nazi, he sure as hell didnt proclaim himself as such, so jdb would still have lied. and i know this because this isnt the first time they talked about how ryoq called himself a nazi (when he clearly didnt)

Directly quoting someone is lying nowadays, what a wonderful world we live in
Also, hasn’t he been doing a racial speed run the last day or two?? The last few pages of this thread are roughly half as long as ones without the unhinged rantings from my ignore list, but based on the responses I can see, looks like he’s been bitching about immigrants taking his job…hmm, a guy who blames foreigners and immigrants for his own failings and refuses to acknowledge their worth as humans…what does that sound like?? What would you call someone like that??

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Nothing is set in stone. I'm willing to continue changing my position about you

Whose ally do you want me to be?

 

[Logiko]

Whose ally do you want me to be?

Leftism

 

[Blax Blah]

bro there are right wingers that can be and are against state overreach or censorship of political opponents and who are in favor of individual liberties, freedom of speech, religion. i seriously dont get what your point is with this convoluted hypothetical scenario

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Ok, so what argument does a right winger have against a fascist party's encouragement of following the bosses' economic interests, which is the entire fascist economic plan, and which brutally crushed the population?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

No, H1-B is powering AI lmfao. It is directly powering AI and this is why Elon makes such a big push for H1B and legal immigration

you are just trying to find a way to scapegoat immigrants

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I don't remember but it doesn't surprise me lol

The guy was a totally different person in this thread. I had a lot of OP discussions with him, and he was always cool. Then I started following here and he's fantasizing about k****ng minorities in India and shit

Bruh I forgot how unhinged that dude was lmfao. Probably the worst Yonko fan here, which is sad because his agendas like Kizaru = YC7 and "Kizaru couldn't beat Rakuyo" were so funny

 

[Akai2]

Kizaru = YC7

This alone should've got him banned

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1nrviqx
Good.

This is more than just free speech: it's about honesty.

Yeah, if you suck up to people who emulate the Germans from the 30s/40s, and use talking points from that regime, and go after the same kinds of people they did, then guess what you are?

These people call the kids they blow up the N-word all the time, god forbid we call them the other N-word, which they call themselves behind closed doors.

They were live streaming themselves murdering the children. Did you not see?

If they won't let us call them the N-word, let us be even more direct: they're Child Killing Terrorists.

 

[Reborn]

I think there is definitely a difference between saying "I am Nazi" and " I am considered Nazi here"


I am Nazi - is kind of self identification and clear give away

I am considered Nazi here - it's not self identification but it means his view points could be considered as Nazi by people here. It's about perception from others and not self proclaimation.

 

[Mathias]

it is a contradiction, in English anti means opposed to or against this is the definition of the word, to be against fascism is definitionally antifascist

Would you consider Churchill an antifa ?

 

[Zenos7]

Ok, so what argument does a right winger have against a fascist party's encouragement of following the bosses' economic interests, which is the entire fascist economic plan, and which brutally crushed the population?

that this would be state overreach and therefore bad and detrimental to individual liberties? like what is your point?

 

[Blax Blah]

that this would be state overreach and therefore bad and detrimental to individual liberties? like what is your point?

If the country is in crysis couldn't it be argued individual liberties should not be the main priority?

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My point though is that you have no argument to fight with, no argument or tool to fight with, the right wing supports the cancer out of which fascism grows

 

[Zenos7]

If the country is in crysis couldn't it be argued individual liberties should not be the main priority?

if you want to, feel free i guess?