Controversial General Political Discussion
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This is more than just free speech: it's about honesty.
Yeah, if you suck up to people who emulate the Germans from the 30s/40s, and use talking points from that regime, and go after the same kinds of people they did, then guess what you are?
These people call the kids they blow up the N-word all the time, god forbid we call them the other N-word, which they call themselves behind closed doors.
They were live streaming themselves murdering the children. Did you not see?
If they won't let us call them the N-word, let us be even more direct: they're Child Killing Terrorists.
I think there is definitely a difference between saying "I am Nazi" and " I am considered Nazi here"
I am Nazi - is kind of self identification and clear give away
I am considered Nazi here - it's not self identification but it means his view points could be considered as Nazi by people here. It's about perception from others and not self proclaimation.
I am Nazi - is kind of self identification and clear give away
I am considered Nazi here - it's not self identification but it means his view points could be considered as Nazi by people here. It's about perception from others and not self proclaimation.
99.99999% of right wingers are not capitalists, capitalists are the people who own capital, the owners of the companies, not regular people
Just like in feudalism, there are feudal lords, and peasants, some peasants may have supported feudalism, but the feudalists are the feudal lords who owned the land, not the peasants
When feudalism was overthrown, feudal lords were overthrown, not the peasants
But my point is, right wingers' arguments, if followed to their natural conclusion, lead to fascism
To be a right winger and be anti-fascist you must put a limit on your support of capitalism, based on your morality letting you know "Hey, this is messed up", because otherwise you have no argument against their economic plan, because their plan is full support of capitalists, which is what right wingers support, they just take it to its conclusion: "Hey, capitalism is good, so let's use the state to help capitalists, since what they're doing is good"
Capitalism is like exposure to risk factors of cancer, fascism is cancer, workers' organisations ( like unions or co-operatives ) are like the cancer vaccine, they overthrow capitalist social relations ( that of someone owning the capital, and someone else doing the work using that capital, like for example, factory owners own the factory and the machinery and collect the profits, but they don't do the work that the workers do with the machinery, they don't build the factory, they don't transport the machinery, they don't maintain the factory, they just pay someone else, the workers, to do all those things, their role is purely owning it and collecting profits because they own it ), by putting the workers as the owners of the capital, instead of some dude sitting around who just owns it and does no work
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Also, capitalist does not mean rich person, capitalist means owner of capital
If I become such a good programmer or engineer, that I get paid millions or dozens of millions of dollars, that does not make me a capitalist
The only way I can be a capitalist, is by owning capital, a part of a company for example, or an entire company
And technically anyone can buy stocks but if you own just 0.000000001% you practically own nothing, those who own 10, 20, 30, 50% actually own the capital and make the decisions
The term for rich person who gets rich through their work, is labour aristocracy, you are rich yeah, like an aristocrat, but you are rich through your labour, not through owning capital
Socialist movements say the labour aristocracy can be bribed by the capitalists into supporting capitalism, because if capitalism gets overthrown, the labour aristocracy loses their privileged roles, but socialism is not looking to overthrow the labour aristocracy, socialism is looking to overthrow capitalism, the capitalists' power
Just like in feudalism, there are feudal lords, and peasants, some peasants may have supported feudalism, but the feudalists are the feudal lords who owned the land, not the peasants
When feudalism was overthrown, feudal lords were overthrown, not the peasants
But my point is, right wingers' arguments, if followed to their natural conclusion, lead to fascism
To be a right winger and be anti-fascist you must put a limit on your support of capitalism, based on your morality letting you know "Hey, this is messed up", because otherwise you have no argument against their economic plan, because their plan is full support of capitalists, which is what right wingers support, they just take it to its conclusion: "Hey, capitalism is good, so let's use the state to help capitalists, since what they're doing is good"
Capitalism is like exposure to risk factors of cancer, fascism is cancer, workers' organisations ( like unions or co-operatives ) are like the cancer vaccine, they overthrow capitalist social relations ( that of someone owning the capital, and someone else doing the work using that capital, like for example, factory owners own the factory and the machinery and collect the profits, but they don't do the work that the workers do with the machinery, they don't build the factory, they don't transport the machinery, they don't maintain the factory, they just pay someone else, the workers, to do all those things, their role is purely owning it and collecting profits because they own it ), by putting the workers as the owners of the capital, instead of some dude sitting around who just owns it and does no work
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Also, capitalist does not mean rich person, capitalist means owner of capital
If I become such a good programmer or engineer, that I get paid millions or dozens of millions of dollars, that does not make me a capitalist
The only way I can be a capitalist, is by owning capital, a part of a company for example, or an entire company
And technically anyone can buy stocks but if you own just 0.000000001% you practically own nothing, those who own 10, 20, 30, 50% actually own the capital and make the decisions
The term for rich person who gets rich through their work, is labour aristocracy, you are rich yeah, like an aristocrat, but you are rich through your labour, not through owning capital
Socialist movements say the labour aristocracy can be bribed by the capitalists into supporting capitalism, because if capitalism gets overthrown, the labour aristocracy loses their privileged roles, but socialism is not looking to overthrow the labour aristocracy, socialism is looking to overthrow capitalism, the capitalists' power
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When you walk into a room and tell people that you’re going to come off a certain way, it probably means that you’ve previously walked into other rooms and were treated that way based on your opinions and how you voice them. I’ve never had to start a post or conversation with some variation of “People here will think I’m a filthy racist after they engage with me” because I’ve also never expressed views that would open me up to that accusation. Y’all are really being willfully ignorant by pretending that he didn’t admit exactly what he is, and by the looks of it, he’s been doubling down on several occasions since then…but if you wanna keep going to the mat for some random Internet cretin like he’s paying you for it, be my guest 
He wants the mods to attack me so bad hahaha
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Mods, he's calling me nazi again because I'm against H1Bs...this is a slur right?
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When you walk into a room and tell people that you’re going to come off a certain way, it probably means that you’ve previously walked into other rooms and were treated that way based on your opinions and how you voice them. I’ve never had to start a post or conversation with some variation of “People here will think I’m a filthy racist after they engage with me” because I’ve also never expressed views that would open me up to that accusation. Y’all are really being willfully ignorant by pretending that he didn’t admit exactly what he is, and by the looks of it, he’s been doubling down on several occasions since then…but if you wanna keep going to the mat for some random Internet cretin like he’s paying you for it, be my guest
Put more simply - if C4N walked in here and said “People think I’m a lunatic for writing academic essays on anime forums every moment of the day,” you could trust him because a) He told you it directly, b) He’s heard people tell him before, and c) He shows you right away why the first two things happened…what’s the difference with Roku?? Does he have kompromat on y’all or something??
When you walk into a room and tell people that you’re going to come off a certain way, it probably means that you’ve previously walked into other rooms and were treated that way based on your opinions and how you voice them. I’ve never had to start a post or conversation with some variation of “People here will think I’m a filthy racist after they engage with me” because I’ve also never expressed views that would open me up to that accusation. Y’all are really being willfully ignorant by pretending that he didn’t admit exactly what he is, and by the looks of it, he’s been doubling down on several occasions since then…but if you wanna keep going to the mat for some random Internet cretin like he’s paying you for it, be my guest
You can argue he believes that his views are extreme and could be considered as Nazi by people here but again this isn't self-identification... it's external labelling not self proclaimation.
