Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1162 Spoilers Discussion
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I'm going with bum L'ees view of the Admirals now. Every single one of them is written to fight for the good side by EOS. Egghead really had the ship sail in that direction showcasing how Admirals are really just normal human beings torn between personal relationships and duties that force them to support evil and then on the other side we have literal demons.
Also when it comes to Greenbull there's that one sbs that somewhat teased he joined the Navy with an anti WG agenda of his own. I'm not saying that's extremely likely, but it isn't impossible.
Also when it comes to Greenbull there's that one sbs that somewhat teased he joined the Navy with an anti WG agenda of his own. I'm not saying that's extremely likely, but it isn't impossible.
1000% this.
Vergo continuously gets more respect than someone like Queen, because Vergo showed up and kicked ass, and Queen kept jobbing.
Great point about final villain buffs.
I honestly really like when games/media make it clear it's the final boss, and there aren't any new gimmicks or evolutions or shit, it's just that guy doing his thing.
Dragon Ball has never really topped Frieza.
Nuance is way more interesting than raw strength.
Vergo continuously gets more respect than someone like Queen, because Vergo showed up and kicked ass, and Queen kept jobbing.
Great point about final villain buffs.
I honestly really like when games/media make it clear it's the final boss, and there aren't any new gimmicks or evolutions or shit, it's just that guy doing his thing.
Dragon Ball has never really topped Frieza.
Nuance is way more interesting than raw strength.
It can but in every showing these characters have looked bad to worse. Whether it’s getting blown away by Sengoku, running ass from Akainu, or getting dropped by old Garp oda doesn’t make us really hyped for them at all. As such them being final villains gives the same vibes of imagining Sasukes Akatsuki as final villains of Naruto.
Right and that's why i'm saying he so far hasn't brought up in change. So he saw the corruption of the WG at Ohara (which is weird since he should already know about the giant slave network of the WG as a Vice-Admiral), he then took the promotion to be an admiral years after that... and did nothing to bring up any change. Instead became the most laziest marine top tier.. That's morally worst than Garp. Garp still kept his passion for putting criminals in their place and protecting civilians. He simply never attempted to change the system. Kuzan not only saw a similar incident, but with years of thinking and reflecting upon it... he took a position with authority to bring change... and did jackshit. Now to be clear i'm not holding that against Kuzan, since there's other marines like Smoker who've already said they wouldn't be doing shit Fujitora is doing even as an admiral.
If the change we're talking about is based on morality. Where we're saying Garp is morally fraud because even though he spends most his times fighting criminals and pirates who terrorize civilians, but refuses to take a stance against the CD. Kuzan is being brought up as somebody who doesn't bootlick the CD anymore... while also being the most lazy top tier in history of the marines, I would assume being correct would be a point no? Since we're talking about morality. Kuzan's morality of joining mass murderers to empower and help Teach get closer to his goal, due to w.e secret goal he might have, isn't any better than Garp training young marines with good morals and fighting criminals/pirates while not rebelling against the CD... Garp actively as a Marine is still doing overall more good than Kuzan as a BBP, just off the fact he's inspiring younger marines to fight criminals and protect civilians. Kuzan is inspiring criminals who harm civilians.
Like Fujitora, he's flat out better than Garp, which I've stated numerous times though in general. Even Akainu I think is more passionate and bringing upon change than Garp ever did. Saka and Fuji the two most passionate marines to exist, while ideologically on two different ends of justice. Opposites of Sengoku and Garp who accepted the system while doing the most good they could within it.
Dragon just a different breed. Though, I think not enough is stressed upon the fact Dragon and Garp still communicate with each other to this day. So it's not gonna be out of realm of possibilities we see Garp leading a group of marines whenever Dragon actually starts the frontal war with the CD. TBC, I'm not saying Garp is morally a great guy, I think he's just like your normal "good marine", nothing particularly special in the moral department.
MB for the long post.
If the change we're talking about is based on morality. Where we're saying Garp is morally fraud because even though he spends most his times fighting criminals and pirates who terrorize civilians, but refuses to take a stance against the CD. Kuzan is being brought up as somebody who doesn't bootlick the CD anymore... while also being the most lazy top tier in history of the marines, I would assume being correct would be a point no? Since we're talking about morality. Kuzan's morality of joining mass murderers to empower and help Teach get closer to his goal, due to w.e secret goal he might have, isn't any better than Garp training young marines with good morals and fighting criminals/pirates while not rebelling against the CD... Garp actively as a Marine is still doing overall more good than Kuzan as a BBP, just off the fact he's inspiring younger marines to fight criminals and protect civilians. Kuzan is inspiring criminals who harm civilians.
Like Fujitora, he's flat out better than Garp, which I've stated numerous times though in general. Even Akainu I think is more passionate and bringing upon change than Garp ever did. Saka and Fuji the two most passionate marines to exist, while ideologically on two different ends of justice. Opposites of Sengoku and Garp who accepted the system while doing the most good they could within it.
Dragon just a different breed. Though, I think not enough is stressed upon the fact Dragon and Garp still communicate with each other to this day. So it's not gonna be out of realm of possibilities we see Garp leading a group of marines whenever Dragon actually starts the frontal war with the CD. TBC, I'm not saying Garp is morally a great guy, I think he's just like your normal "good marine", nothing particularly special in the moral department.
MB for the long post.
Greenbull expert @Dragon777 has it. Post the sbs pls.
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