Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1162 Spoilers Discussion

[Roo]

Zoro's WSS resume.

damn my resume leaked?

 

[ZenZu]

You are mistaken, Zenzu-chin...
Luffy has beaten 81mil Crocodile, not the 1.8Bil Crocodile.

It's the same character, just retconned to match inflation. He basically showed up too early.

 

[Roo]

 

[comrade]

Nothing would match WB's aura in his own arc where he is meant to go down in a blaze of glory

Whitebeard was basically like a beloved father and husband with a dark and nasty past emerging after his death. Relatives can cope as much as they want remembering the picture they had, but truth prevails.

 

[kurwa]

*Imu doesn't stop rocks at reverie*
*seethes and goes in god valley where there are more enemies*

*imu doesn't show up in egghead and seethes at saturn*
*shows up in elbaf to fight fodder*

normies will eat up this poorly written character because he's a kind and in shadows

 

[nik87]

It's the same character, just retconned to match inflation. He basically showed up too early.

Not the same at all.
The one back then was the one with crushed willpower due to loss to Whitebeard.
This one now is the one whose "wounds healed" and his willpower is back to its prime.
And even the 81mil Crocodile is something that Luffy needed help against...
Your boy's best feat remains Chinjao.

 

[D. Plant]

@Dragon777 Told you Whitebeard didn't betray Xebec, he even offer himself for help even tho Xebec told him to escape.

 

[ZenZu]

Marineford Whitebeard was at the finale of his character arc.
He had his will hardened, fighting to save his "son" and heir apparent. He came with no intent to leave from the battlefield alive. And was the representative of one of the two main factions. Marineford was WHTIEBEARD'S arc, where he was meant to go down in a blaze of glory, ushering in a new era!!

While Garp was conflicted, distraught over his "grandson's" execution, torn between duty and family.
And more importantly from a narrative PoV, it wasn't his time yet to blaze and burn down.

Of course Whitebeard looked like he owned the arc, because it was HIS arc. It was his time to have one last hurrah before his time had expired.

Mentioning Garp alongside WB was never a disservice to him.
Roger ~ WB ~ Garp was well established around that time. If you thought it was, then like Loda says.......reading comprehension.

I will acknowledge that Sengoku should've been more impressive lol.
Nothing would match WB's aura in his own arc where he is meant to go down in a blaze of glory, but Sengoku 100% should've done more as the representative of the winning faction.

You've done really well to describe the downfall. I agree with nearly everything you said here. We were fooled by sendoff tax.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

It's the same character, just retconned

*Imu doesn't stop rocks at reverie*
*seethes and goes in god valley where there are more enemies*

*imu doesn't show up in egghead and seethes at saturn*
*shows up in elbaf to fight fodder*

normies will eat up this poorly written character because he's a kind and in shadows

nobody likes imu lol

 

[ZenZu]

Luffy needed help against...
Your boy's best feat remains Chinjao.

"My boy"

Im dying

 

[comrade]

Not the same at all.
The one back then was the one with crushed willpower due to loss to Whitebeard.
This one now is the one whose "wounds healed" and his willpower is back to its prime.
And even the 81mil Crocodile is something that Luffy needed help against...
Your boy's best feat remains Chinjao.

Rayleigh at old age doing nothing but drinking and gambling for 20 years could go toe to toe with Kizaru. Losing willpower won't lower bonafide top tiers to below veteran level. That was kinda always cope.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Clown walking in the woods had an idea.

Shanks took down Loki, right? But, Shanks doesn't work for the WG, and Shanks is smart.

Is he gonna do that shit for free? NO. Like Rocks with Hachinosu, I imagine he wanted compensation (except Shanks actually held up his end of the bargain).

What if Shanks agreed to capture Loki... if the WG gave God Valley to Shanks as his territory?

The Sake Shanks gave to Newgate was brewed on God Valley, Shanks's hometown, 4 years after Shanks reclaimed it, and 6 years ago in the current timeline.

 

[Boiroy]

Big mom's resume

Got stared diff by jinbei
Run over kawasaki by Franky
Ran away from Marco
her strongest child is a fodder
21yo Kaido negged her n stole the fruit
Zero damage to Garp
Was a burden to Kaido on the rooftop
Lost to usopp level haki users law n kid

 

[nik87]

Rayleigh at old age doing nothing but drinking and gambling for 20 years could go toe to toe with Kizaru. Losing willpower won't lower bonafide top tiers to below veteran level. That was kinda always cope.

Losing willpower is the biggest difference there is.
Willpower is what keeps one going and why rookie with unbroken willpower outlasts veterans with broken willpower.
Rayleigh's willpower was never affected due to inactivity.
He didnt suffer a dream-ending defeat like Crocodile did.
How much can Luffy last during his phase of broken willpower after Ace's death? Not even a competition.

 

[Boiroy]

Losing willpower is the biggest difference there is.
Willpower is what keeps one going and why rookie with unbroken willpower outlasts veterans with broken willpower.
Rayleigh's willpower was never affected due to inactivity.
He didnt suffer a dream-ending defeat like Crocodile did.
How much can Luffy last during his phase of broken willpower after Ace's death? Not even a competition.

Why Zoro willpower so strong nikki chan

 

[comrade]

Losing willpower is the biggest difference there is.
Willpower is what keeps one going and why rookie with unbroken willpower outlasts veterans with broken willpower.
Rayleigh's willpower was never affected due to inactivity.
He didnt suffer a dream-ending defeat like Crocodile did.
How much can Luffy last during his phase of broken willpower after Ace's death? Not even a competition.

It means Croc's willpower wasn't great to begin with. Not to mention Croc wasn't done yet, he still had the ambition to create a military utopia and obtain an ancient weapon. Croc had peak ambition. Only when Luffy whooped his ass, Croc went to jail willingly. Now with Cross Guild he basically has the same ambition he had in Alabasta again.

 

[OPKnK]

Rayleigh at old age doing nothing but drinking and gambling for 20 years could go toe to toe with Kizaru. Losing willpower won't lower bonafide top tiers to below veteran level. That was kinda always cope.

People act like losing will power is make people trash.
Kaido was unhappy drunk etc etc but you still has to be at certain level to even hurt him or get him serious .
At the end of the day people should never look to deep into this stuff cause Oda does what ever the fuck he wants for what ever reason he wants lol.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Theory.

Garp and Roger defended the celestial dragons from Imu, not Rocks.

While the Gorosei and HKs know of the existence of Imu, nothing suggests the civilian CDs do.

Imu might decide that since he made a public appearance, that everyone on the island ought to die. CDs included.

He kills Rocks and the Rocks pirates subsequently flee, not caring about the lives of the CDs. Garp and Roger, unwilling to let civilians die, decide to fight Imu.

Perhaps Harald appears as well and decides to fight alongside them. Idk.

 

[sanjikun]

It's almost like Garp has not reached his peak either.

The issue is you're assuming the same rate of growth. Roger/Garp were basically 95-99% of their peak. WB at most like 70-80%.

 

[ZenZu]

It means Croc's willpower wasn't great to begin with. Not to mention Croc wasn't done yet, he still had the ambition to create a military utopia and obtain an ancient weapon. Croc had peak ambition. Only when Luffy whooped his ass, Croc went to jail willingly. Now with Cross Guild he basically has the same ambition he had in Alabasta again.

It ain't easy for us One Piece fans. We have to cope with every Oda error.