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It is for you to substantiate why this qualification matters. In fact, you are welcome to start substantiating any of the claims you've made thus far.
Like this bullshit.
Setting aside you asserted Zoro fought the #2, without qualification for strength, as a matter of "narrative logic" dating to the beginning of One Piece:
Sanji has clashed with, fought and defeated opponents equal or higher in both strength and station to Zoro's on more than one occasion since the beginning of One Piece, dating all the way back to their first arc together as Strawhats in Arlong Park.
As recently as Egghead, Sanji was the only one of the Wings to face Kizaru, the #2 authority present behind the Elders.
You are projecting like a mfer.
Except, as established, he doesn't.
I believe you're dumb enough to not have picked up on the obvious.
In addition to being the only one that could move using Tekkai, Jabra was the more experienced DF user with a Zoan better suited to combat and possed a custom, wolf-themed Rankyaku. Two piece though.
Sanji knocked his ass out and he woke up 5 chapters later to kidnap Nami during Oars' rampage, against who his performance outshined Zoro's despite his insane nerf.
Again, your asserted Zoro's opponents have been the #2 - without qualification of strength - since the beginning of One Piece, and this is obviously untrue.
The strongest two on Thriller Bark were Oars and Moria btw.
You keep projecting while substantiating none of your claims. I'm not convinced you understand what makes something fact.
The fact you've not actually responded to any of the counter arguments or evidence makes it clear you know you've got no leg to stand on, but you're too much of an insecure runt to admit you've lost the argument.
It was reasonable up to any point upto 1022.
Your position is rooted in nothing but hindsight bias.
You're the only one conflating alike with exactly the same. Nobody fights exactly the same as their opponents in One Piece, and Sanji has fought armed and unarmed opponents, so King wouldn't have been unprecedented, but you ignored this like everything else debunking your bullshit.
He fought alike for a time, but not long. He doesn't need G2 to achieve Soru like speeds and G2 is more of a low level measure.
Nice red herring.
They were alike on the basis of being on being unarmed martial artists with extensive repertoires of kicking techniques. That Sanji didn't rip off Moon Step to develop Sky Walk until the time skip is changes nothing. There was ample likeness prior.
Every accusation is just a confession.
You're blatantly trying to distract from the reality you have nothing to substantiate your own arguments or attacks on mine. You're a pedantic piece of shit trying to escape the fact you keep getting dunked on.
Fuck outta here.
Like this bullshit.
Setting aside you asserted Zoro fought the #2, without qualification for strength, as a matter of "narrative logic" dating to the beginning of One Piece:
Sanji has clashed with, fought and defeated opponents equal or higher in both strength and station to Zoro's on more than one occasion since the beginning of One Piece, dating all the way back to their first arc together as Strawhats in Arlong Park.
As recently as Egghead, Sanji was the only one of the Wings to face Kizaru, the #2 authority present behind the Elders.
You are projecting like a mfer.
Except, as established, he doesn't.
I believe you're dumb enough to not have picked up on the obvious.
In addition to being the only one that could move using Tekkai, Jabra was the more experienced DF user with a Zoan better suited to combat and possed a custom, wolf-themed Rankyaku. Two piece though.
Sanji knocked his ass out and he woke up 5 chapters later to kidnap Nami during Oars' rampage, against who his performance outshined Zoro's despite his insane nerf.
Again, your asserted Zoro's opponents have been the #2 - without qualification of strength - since the beginning of One Piece, and this is obviously untrue.
The strongest two on Thriller Bark were Oars and Moria btw.
You keep projecting while substantiating none of your claims. I'm not convinced you understand what makes something fact.
The fact you've not actually responded to any of the counter arguments or evidence makes it clear you know you've got no leg to stand on, but you're too much of an insecure runt to admit you've lost the argument.
It was reasonable up to any point upto 1022.
Your position is rooted in nothing but hindsight bias.
You're the only one conflating alike with exactly the same. Nobody fights exactly the same as their opponents in One Piece, and Sanji has fought armed and unarmed opponents, so King wouldn't have been unprecedented, but you ignored this like everything else debunking your bullshit.
He fought alike for a time, but not long. He doesn't need G2 to achieve Soru like speeds and G2 is more of a low level measure.
Nice red herring.
They were alike on the basis of being on being unarmed martial artists with extensive repertoires of kicking techniques. That Sanji didn't rip off Moon Step to develop Sky Walk until the time skip is changes nothing. There was ample likeness prior.
Every accusation is just a confession.
You're blatantly trying to distract from the reality you have nothing to substantiate your own arguments or attacks on mine. You're a pedantic piece of shit trying to escape the fact you keep getting dunked on.
Fuck outta here.
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If anyone is wise and sane enough to dispute the point I'm making without going batshit crazy and throwing constant insults because of a Chinese cartoon just to cover up an obvious lack of substantive arguments, I'll be happy to continue discussing this.
In the meantime, have a nice day everyone.
Btw, there's a weird bug with images and most emojis, I can't see them and they're replaced by big blue squares telling me the content isn't viewable in my region.
In the meantime, have a nice day everyone.Btw, there's a weird bug with images and most emojis, I can't see them and they're replaced by big blue squares telling me the content isn't viewable in my region.
If anyone is wise and sane enough to dispute the point I'm making without going batshit crazy and throwing constant insults because of a Chinese cartoon just to cover up an obvious lack of substantive arguments, I'll be happy to continue discussing this. In the meantime, have a nice day everyone.
Btw, there's a weird bug with images and most emojis, I can't see them and they're replaced by big blue squares telling me the content isn't viewable in my region.
In the meantime, have a nice day everyone.Btw, there's a weird bug with images and most emojis, I can't see them and they're replaced by big blue squares telling me the content isn't viewable in my region.
Of course there was a parallel to reflect the fact he was gonna be Sanji's opponent, I'm not denying that. I'm not talking about strength or character dynamics, I'm talking about irrelevant similarities like fighting style, personality or physical traits, things that have no narrative relevance.
Sanji's opponents are nothing like him in those aspects because they're not things Oda attaches importance to when it comes to deciding matchups, those are just made up by some people to justify matchups they want to see happen. One can hardly say Kuroobi, Bon Clay, Jabura and Wadatsumi remind them of Sanji. That's why Sanji vs King was a retarded take from the moment Kaido's whole crew was presented to us, at least it was for anyone unbiased and not suffering from fanboy greed.
What I'm saying is you gotta look for narrative elements and that applies to similarities as well. Like Pizarro being a royalty from North Blue, for example, it's an actual relevant similarity that can serve as a point in favor of this potential matchup because there's a narrative angle Oda could exploit (those similarities can be applied to Sanji's family, that's why Queen was a scientist like Judge).
But King being able to fly and use fire, or Lafitte being a tactician and speedster? Those things don't mean shit. If Lafite does something like torture Pudding for his pleasure, or argues vehemently with Shiryu about stupid things, I'll be the first to say he's Sanji's matchup. The only relevant elements we have so far just don't point in that direction at all.
Sanji's opponents are nothing like him in those aspects because they're not things Oda attaches importance to when it comes to deciding matchups, those are just made up by some people to justify matchups they want to see happen. One can hardly say Kuroobi, Bon Clay, Jabura and Wadatsumi remind them of Sanji. That's why Sanji vs King was a retarded take from the moment Kaido's whole crew was presented to us, at least it was for anyone unbiased and not suffering from fanboy greed.
What I'm saying is you gotta look for narrative elements and that applies to similarities as well. Like Pizarro being a royalty from North Blue, for example, it's an actual relevant similarity that can serve as a point in favor of this potential matchup because there's a narrative angle Oda could exploit (those similarities can be applied to Sanji's family, that's why Queen was a scientist like Judge).
But King being able to fly and use fire, or Lafitte being a tactician and speedster? Those things don't mean shit. If Lafite does something like torture Pudding for his pleasure, or argues vehemently with Shiryu about stupid things, I'll be the first to say he's Sanji's matchup. The only relevant elements we have so far just don't point in that direction at all.
Black Maria also never happens to threaten Kaidou, to to even dream about taking his position.
His threats to BB feels ambitious and ruthless that make him cool character. His df also has cool potential especially if he happens to control the red line itself, then the fight could be linked to Sanji dream of All Blue. Don't think mid/weak trio has means to fight him either.
In this Garp-Aokiji fight, only Aokiji, Shiryu and Pizaro stood out.
Lafitte wasn't here, but until he shows he's strong fans won't jump on it wholeheartedly.
Only Aokiji feels perfect so far. But it's wishful matchup.
His threats to BB feels ambitious and ruthless that make him cool character. His df also has cool potential especially if he happens to control the red line itself, then the fight could be linked to Sanji dream of All Blue. Don't think mid/weak trio has means to fight him either.
In this Garp-Aokiji fight, only Aokiji, Shiryu and Pizaro stood out.
Lafitte wasn't here, but until he shows he's strong fans won't jump on it wholeheartedly.
Only Aokiji feels perfect so far. But it's wishful matchup.
