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For the 213819283th time, who do you think it's Sanji's BBP matchup?


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Sanji/jimbei vs Pizarro/Burgess is fixed for me. Don't underestimate riki riki no mi's raw power boost.
I didn't mention Burgess or Jinbe, I said Pizarro is only a fitting opponent for either Sanji or Franky. When it comes to Jinbe's matchup, I think it's either Burgess or Vasco Shot.
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Coby. The Hero saving the Slaves from the Corrupt King who is specifically in charge of the slave camps he was held in is clear. Especially since Pizarro was the reason Garp stayed behind to be captured while the rest got free.
I take it you don't believe every SH is getting their 1v1. I disagree with that, so I can't see that happen.
 
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I didn't mention Burgess or Jinbe, I said Pizarro is only a fitting opponent for either Sanji or Franky. When it comes to Jinbe's matchup, I think it's either Burgess or Vasco Shot.
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I take it you don't believe every SH is getting their 1v1. I disagree with that, so I can't see that happen.
I just don’t see every straw hat getting a 1v1. That’s never really been odas way. Oda loves making allies fight the opponents to strong for weaker SHs but too weak for M3 (Like Inu beating Jack while Wings beat K/Q)
 
Oda won’t reveal those till the actual SH matchup cause he doesn’t want to think of pre prime BBP bounties then prime BBP bounties.
I mean the OG crew had official bounties before the TS (and funnily, Chopper's matchup had the highest one). But yeah, I don't expect anything before matchups are set in stone (and even then, Oda probably won't care to reveal all of them in the story lol).

Oda won’t reveal anything before the actual fights lol
Don’t hope anything
Hope? What is that?
 
I added "relative" for a reason, AP isn't his strongest suit. It's not a weakness in the absolute sense of the term, so spare me the strawman argument. It's just not the stat where he shines the most
This ''relative'' is a pretty stupid term to use and based on our arguments down below, you just added it so it wouldn't sound like you are bashing Sanji's AP lol

A relative weakness is something that performs worse compared to something. How do you wanna scale Sanji's AP with his Durability for example? You can't compare those things.
It's just not the stat where he shines the most, hence one IJ kick wasn't enough to take down Queen, and why his IJ version of Hell Memories didn't do anything to Luffy despite Franky and Bonney assisting him.
Those are the exact arguments people use when trying to donwplay Sanji's AP, especialy based on the wording here.
You know i have an idea so hear me out, maybe just maybe, Queen isn't a glass canon and actualy really tanky!! I know, i know it's a pretty crazy idea...
Sanji kicking Queen off the island into the sky like team rocket is one of the best AP showings in the Manga, who else has done that?
Looks like a really ''shiny'' feat to me.

And the Hells Memories part is also a lie.
Luffy literaly said it hurts. But that obviously isn't enough, Sanji had to one shot Giant Baloon G5 Luffy in order for his AP to be good...lol
Luffy was eating Kaidou's Hybrid Form with AdvCoC attacks without saying that it hurts, i guess Kaidou's AP is also not where he shines.:kayneshrug:
Sanji's AP is clearly not a stat he is lacking behind.

Do you expect him to not get stronger and improve his AP later? Because if you don't and reckon he'll need to do so to defeat stronger opponents, then you admit AP is a relative (can't stress this enough, especially in this FC) weakness of his.
Sorry, but what kinda dumb logic is that?
Sanji is gonna grow in every stat in order to defeat stronger enemies, not just AP. So based on your logic, every of his stats is a ''relative'' weakness.:kaidowhat:
Luffy's CoO was not his weakest stat during WCI, but he had to improve it further to be able to defeat Katakuri.
Just because you can improve something, doesn't mean it's your weakest skill...
 
This ''relative'' is a pretty stupid term to use and based on our arguments down below, you just added it so it wouldn't sound like you are bashing Sanji's AP lol

A relative weakness is something that performs worse compared to something. How do you wanna scale Sanji's AP with his Durability for example? You can't compare those things..
Or maybe you're just rejecting that term because you wanna justify your meltdown. I don't need you to tell me what I think, thanks. I used this term because that reflects precisely what I believe, which is Sanji needing to improve his AP to defeat his opponents. And that's factual.

Let's make something very clear: I'm not trying to appeal to you, I don't need your approval and I don't need to express myself in a certain way to pass the Sanji fan loyalty test or whatever you wanna call it. Just like everyone else here (me included), you're a nobody. Your liking of Sanji isn't more legit than mine and you're not an authority figure representing Sanji fanbase. So stop acting like the gatekeeper of his fanbase.

Now, about the term "relative", it simply means in relation to something else. In this case, it means in relation to Sanji's opponent. Before DJ, Sanji's AP was his relative weakness against Jabra, not in a general sense. Before IJ, his AP was his relative weakness against Queen, not in a general sense. Of course, there were fights where his AP wasn't his relative weakness: against Kuroobi, Bon Clay or Wadatsumi. But against Jabra and Queen, it was.

I very specifically mentioned Sanji's need to overcome his relative weakness against Pizarro to destroy his giant rock form (if that fight does happen), but all you saw was the term "weakness", took it out of context and lashed out.

Those are the exact arguments people use when trying to donwplay Sanji's AP, especialy based on the wording here.
You know i have an idea so hear me out, maybe just maybe, Queen isn't a glass canon and actualy really tanky!! I know, i know it's a pretty crazy idea...
Sanji kicking Queen off the island into the sky like team rocket is one of the best AP showings in the Manga, who else has done that?
Looks like a really ''shiny'' feat to me.

And the Hells Memories part is also a lie.
Luffy literaly said it hurts. But that obviously isn't enough, Sanji had to one shot Giant Baloon G5 Luffy in order for his AP to be good...lol
Luffy was eating Kaidou's Hybrid Form with AdvCoC attacks without saying that it hurts, i guess Kaidou's AP is also not where he shines.:kayneshrug:
Sanji's AP is clearly not a stat he is lacking behind.
None of what you just wrote changes what I said in any way. What does Queen being tanky as fuck (which he was) changes the fact that Sanji's AP wasn't enough to take him down? How does that change the fact he needed greater AP to defeat him? And if he needed that, it means his AP was his relative weakness in his fight against Queen. I never said his AP wasn't good.

Sorry, but what kinda dumb logic is that?
Sanji is gonna grow in every stat in order to defeat stronger enemies, not just AP. So based on your logic, every of his stats is a ''relative'' weakness.
That's not how it works. Let's say the key to defeating Queen wasn't AP. Let's say Sanji's DJ and Hell Memories were enough, but he just couldn't touch Queen because he kept doging all his moves. And eventually, Sanji gained enough speed to land a clean hit that finally took him down. In this case, that would have meant his relative weakness was speed. That's what relative weakness is about, what needs to be improved to win a fight. That's it.

Luffy's CoO was not his weakest stat during WCI, but he had to improve it further to be able to defeat Katakuri.
Just because you can improve something, doesn't mean it's your weakest skill...
And Luffy's CoO was very obviously one of his relative weaknesses against Katakuri.

I never claimed Sanji's AP was his weakest skill btw. You seem to project your insecurities about Sanji bashing onto whatever you perceive as a negative remark about the character, making you exaggerate what I say. And frankly, that's not my problem. Stick to the debate and stop trying to denounce something that exists only in your head, that paranoia and victim mentality is none of my concern. Refrain from throwing stupid accusations or I'll stop debating with you.
 
We are at the final saga and people are still repeating the fake news of "sanji's weak AP".
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Unfortunately Oda never gave a clear island level feat to Sanji. Someone like Zoro cutting Pica in half, Luffy punching Doflamingo and destroying in half Dressrosa, Sai destroying in half dressrosa hill, Coby/Garp destroying Pizzarro island form.

While Sanji demonstrated repeatedly that he has super human strength that is sure comparable to the few characters that I already mentioned, still we never saw something like their feats. Sure Sanji is capable of doing it, but Oda seems like to never took a chance.

Maybe we will see something in Elbaph where everyhing is huge. I hope it, a clear feat like that will shut down a lot of non believers.

Sanji kicking Queen massive body to the sky is an huge feat showcasing his raw power, unfortunately it is not "spectacular" or "flashy" like the ones I already mentioned, so Sanji get the title of character who "lacks attack power" which is clearly false.
 
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Unfortunately Oda never gave a clear island level feat to Sanji. Someone like Zoro cutting Pica in half, Luffy punching Doflamingo and destroying in half Dressrosa, Sai destroying in half dressrosa hill, Coby/Garp destroying Pizzarro island form.

While Sanji demonstrated repeatedly that he has super human strength that is sure comparable to the few characters that I already mentioned, still we never saw something like their feats. Sure Sanji is capable of doing it, but Oda seems like to never took a chance.

Maybe we will something in Elbaph where everyhing is huge. I hope it, a clear feat like that will shut down a lot of non believers.

Sanji kicking Queen massive body to the sky is an huge feat showcasing his raw power, unfortunately it is not "spectacular" or "flashy" like the ones I already mentioned, so Sanji get the title of character who "lacks attack power" which is clearly false.
Just leech.
Its all good.
 
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