Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

Zemmour? Knafo's pet.
Les ecolos bobos? No thanks.
Sarkozy? Guilty, and he didn't even get caught for all he did. He should spend the rest of his life in prison.

PCF then? FI ? Perhaps something more radical, NPA?

That is bullshit, your definition of "white people" is just privelaged people or something. Lol

White people are priviledged by default in an occidental world. But don't worry, I'm not expecting you to be cool with a concept you just discovered. With your values, it would be a shining miracle. No... you need much more context and politicization before taking this concept seriousely. Just keep this in mind: Whiteness is not "white people" or "white" and it's a social status of domination. That's all.

 

[RyoQ]

PCF then? FI ? Perhaps something more radical, NPA?


White people are priviledged by default in an occidental world. But don't worry, I'm not expecting you to be cool with a concept you just discovered. With your values, it would be a shining miracle. No... you need much more context and politicization before taking this concept seriousely. Just keep this in mind: Whiteness is not "white people" or "white" and it's a social status of domination. That's all.

What the fuck do you mean "white people" I thought race wasn't real, so there are no white people

 

[Logiko]

What the fuck do you mean "white people" I thought race wasn't real, so there are no white people

Being "white", as explained, is a social status given by whiteness. So when I'm talking about white people, I'm talking about people who are benefiting from that "invisible salary" that is the social dominating status of whiteness which pushes the white working class to identify to the white elits in opposition to racialized people overall. This is why people in the working class in the US are voting for Trump. >>>

Whiteness. (blanchité en Francais). (created by Judith Ezekiel in 2002, edit : and theorized around 1935)

Whiteness is an invisible norm. It's a position of domination is the racial order. It's the idea that even the poor white working class will have a superior non monayable salary : A superior social status, more space access etc. than racialized people.

This psychological salary pushes white people to identify to white elits instead of black (and other racialized workers). Whiteness therefore acts as a tool to maintain économical and racial order.

Whiteness is not about appearance or biological traits, it's a social construct and a position of domination created by imperialism, colonization and slavery. Whiteness is at the center of white supremacy. It's a political and social status that can evolve. For ex: in the XIX's century. Irish who came to the united states were racialized and discriminated despite having a white skin. They were considered inferior.

Whiteness allows us, white people to be able to ignore colors and the violence against racialized people while dominating them at the same time. It's the entire idea behind universalism and colorblindness.

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And this is why this social norm is important here.

The social order in our current society is pushing the idea that whiteness is a desirable social order because it will allow people to access dignity and recognition. In his work Frantz Fanon (a philosopher and psychiatrist) explained that in colonial context, the oppressed will seek the benediction and acceptation of the oppressor even to the point of fighting for them because of the potential social retribution of whiteness. It's exactly what happens in the United State with these communities. Whiteness is a promisse of a better social status, more priviledges.

But contrary to their internalized beliefs, this whiteness will still works against them. Simply because they are still part of racialized groups.

This is why you can see black people advocating for Trump for a long time and suddenly shift back when it's too late.

 

[RyoQ]

Being "white", as explained, is a social status given by whiteness. So when I'm talking about white people, I'm talking about people who are benefiting from that "invisible salary" that is the social dominating status of whiteness which pushes the white working class to identify to the white elits in opposition to racialized people overall. This is why people in the working class in the US are voting for Trump. >>>

Studying sociology has ruined this man

 

[Zenos7]

Listen, either you trust me or you go read a bunch of sociology and history on your own. One or the other. If you can't take simple sociological data, I can't help you. Racism is a system of domination. First, learn what the term "system of domination" means, then come back to me, but if you are not willing to have a genuine good faith conversation, don't bother.

Me not playing along with you redefining basic terms left and right is not me arguing in bad faith my guy.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

PCF then? FI ? Perhaps something more radical, NPA?

I do not affiliate myself with any party because I don't think very highly of politicians.
And even in their lies, they're not saying anything very appealing to me.

 

[RyoQ]

Me not playing along with you redefining basic terms left and right is not me arguing in bad faith my guy.

That guy lives in his own world. Studying sociology can really turn one insane

 

[Logiko]

Studying sociology has ruined this man

You should try

Me not playing along with you redefining basic terms left and right is not me arguing in bad faith my guy.

I do not affiliate myself with any party because I don't think very highly of politicians.

Me too, but there is are circles of influences. And political movements outside of party.

That guy lives in his own world. Studying sociology can really turn one insane

It's up to you. Do you wanna keep living in a confused world or do you wanna understand precisely how the social world work?

 

[Zenos7]

Just say you hate white people

 

[Logiko]

It will be quite a moment to watch your radicalization. You are a US citizen? German perhaps? Should arrive soon 1, perhaps 2 years?. Well, either that, or you will completely side with the reactionaries that you are already flirting with. It depends on how your material conditions will be affected, I guess. Don't worry, I won't judge you. After all, I did the journey myself.

 

[Zenos7]

Who is "we"? Everyone considers whiteness a racial people, don't just assume everyone lives in the same schizophrenic delusion as you do


Tell me, what defines this "social status" and why all who seem to fall under the white "race", also happen to fall under this...um..."social status"

This doesnt even work in the slightest, especially when considering europeans distinguish between themselves despite all being "white".

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Why have I never seen this before

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Why have I never seen this before

Asking the children to leave after he explained what fisting was lol

 

[Juanpiz]

The pro-Sarkozy tears are so good that it makes me lose my sleep !

French internet is full of videos of obnoxious protestors yelling their hate for the law



@Juanpiz Are you unironically one of them btw ?

Neither Sarkozy Supporter nor French but heard about it

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Asking the children to leave after he explained what fisting was lol

This whole video kills me on every level😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
His SUPER VIVID demonstrations😂😂😂💀

 

[Mathias]

Just say you hate white people

Anti-western feeling isn't racism

Neither Sarkozy Supporter nor French but heard about it

Ok just casual trolling as expected. Anyway, I can't wait to see picture of him dressed with the prisoner uniform

I do not affiliate myself with any party because I don't think very highly of politicians.
And even in their lies, they're not saying anything very appealing to me.

Your seem so confused though. Imagine quoting anticolinial authors and dropping that LePen is the best

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Your seem so confused though. Imagine quoting anticolinial authors and dropping that LePen is the best

Never said she was the best. Never said I agreed with what Miano says. I just recomended it to Logiko because I knew he would probably like that author.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Just say you hate white people

He even has white friends though!

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I do not affiliate myself with any party because I don't think very highly of politicians.
And even in their lies, they're not saying anything very appealing to me.

2d women with big tits.

Can I have your vote?

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yep, because only white people colonized and only white people can view themselves as superior to other 'races'.

Those people really don't understand what racism means.

If you are white and think you are superior to any other color. You are racist.

If you are white and think you are inferior to any other color. You are racist.

No matter what color your are if you think you are superior/inferior to any other. Guess what? You are racist!

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What the fuck do you mean "white people" I thought race wasn't real, so there are no white people

There is human race and white ethinicity.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

I think the term "Own the Libs" is very interesting, from the people who miss the days when African children were traded in public as sex slaves.

And then the people who want to "Own the Libs" both support:

1. The government kidnapping poor children (the demographic most likely to be sexually trafficked)
2. A man who used teenagers to run a sex-spa in Florida, and has been associated with a global crime syndicate involving multiple heads of state, which has been proven real by Prince Andrew, a great friend of Jeffrey Epstein.

Wow, it's almost like some of these domestic terrorists want to "Own the Libs"

Because they miss the days when their ancestors owned child sex slaves.

Like Thomas Jefferson, who raped and forcefully impregnated a 14-year-old African Girl, Sally Hemmings.

And these freaks can tell me they never supported what they are.

If that's the case, why did the US government and education system teach me to worship a known slave-trafficking child rapist like Thomas Jefferson, who impregnated 14-year-old Sally Hemmings?

They aren't lying

They want to "Own the Libs" and "Make American Great Again"?

Yeah, because they love slavery, and want to make it legal to use black kids as their sex slaves again

Which tracks, because all three of the Abrahamic Religions have historically loved slavery, and justified it within their scriptures.

We can still see slavery legal in places like Dubai. I guess that's why I always hated Jehovah: all the scripture with him just feels like a master talking down to their slaves, when Christ acted the complete opposite. Well, congrats, MAGA, you've convinced me that your God is real, and your God is freaking Satan in disguise, because that's the only thing that explains why ya'll have any power: its puppets sucking up to a fatter evil. Ya'll are the Satan.

Only reason the North Atlantic Slave Trade stopped in the first place was economic boycotts by the British Commonwealth being disgusted by the nobility's treatment of enslaved Africans.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/z3rj7ty/revision/7

Own the Libs?

Nah.

Imprison the Fascists who use religion and politics to make children their slaves.

 

[Logiko]

Those people really don't understand what racism means.

If you are white and think you are superior to any other color. You are racist.

If you are white and think you are inferior to any other color. You are racist.

No matter what color your are if you think you are superior/inferior to any other. Guess what? You are racist!