Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion
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Lmao desperation is real af.
Xebec never " Clashed " with them with that kind of Haki.
These people are brutes all the way in.
Tell me how many times have you seen Xebec w8th lightening Trails. Barely one.
He is strong yes. But Refinment is a doubt in itself.
Luffy easily had Better CoA then entire Scabbards. But they knew Ryou.
That's what you call refinement.
Strength > Refinement.
Zoro brute forced his Ryou attacks to act like AdCoC against Kaidou.
Xebec never " Clashed " with them with that kind of Haki.
These people are brutes all the way in.
Tell me how many times have you seen Xebec w8th lightening Trails. Barely one.
He is strong yes. But Refinment is a doubt in itself.
Luffy easily had Better CoA then entire Scabbards. But they knew Ryou.
That's what you call refinement.
Strength > Refinement.
Zoro brute forced his Ryou attacks to act like AdCoC against Kaidou.
No, middle ground is accepting Garp is on their level.
Garp > Rogerbeard is absolutely absurd given the 1000+ chapters of precedence which tells us the opposite. This conclusion straight up makes no sense and is as dumb as saying things like Zoro > Luffy or Sanji > Zoro. Rogerbeard are Garp's ceiling, not the other way around.
Similarly, Rogerbeard >> Garp is absurd given that Garp is clearly portrayed as one of the top fighters of his era. Before GV, many had Garp on par with guys like Shiki, Prime Kaido etc... Now it's safe to say Prime Garp was a PK level fighter.
My middle ground is that the PK tier is Prime Roger >= Prime WB > Prime Garp, and the only reason Garp is in that conversation is because of this very brief GV flashback. Roger ~ WB as the top 2 is a One Piece staple, solidified for decades. Recency bias based on a brief flashback which also doubles as the peak/highlight of Garp's career is not gonna change that. Garp's peak is an equal win with Roger - Roger went onto become Pirate King and when he died, Whitebeard was the one who became known as Roger's closest equal and the strongest, don't forget that.
Garp > Rogerbeard is absolutely absurd given the 1000+ chapters of precedence which tells us the opposite. This conclusion straight up makes no sense and is as dumb as saying things like Zoro > Luffy or Sanji > Zoro. Rogerbeard are Garp's ceiling, not the other way around.
Similarly, Rogerbeard >> Garp is absurd given that Garp is clearly portrayed as one of the top fighters of his era. Before GV, many had Garp on par with guys like Shiki, Prime Kaido etc... Now it's safe to say Prime Garp was a PK level fighter.
My middle ground is that the PK tier is Prime Roger >= Prime WB > Prime Garp, and the only reason Garp is in that conversation is because of this very brief GV flashback. Roger ~ WB as the top 2 is a One Piece staple, solidified for decades. Recency bias based on a brief flashback which also doubles as the peak/highlight of Garp's career is not gonna change that. Garp's peak is an equal win with Roger - Roger went onto become Pirate King and when he died, Whitebeard was the one who became known as Roger's closest equal and the strongest, don't forget that.
"My HAKI is too strong it cancels out attacks"
"NUH UH my HAKI is stronger it can cancel out your attack-cancelling technique"
"NUH UH my HAKI lets me see into the future so I can avoid your stronger Haki cancelling my attack-cancelling move"
"NUH UH my HAKI is the strongest I can channel it through my sword to paralyze you from doing anything"
"NUH UH my HAKI is stronger it can cancel out your attack-cancelling technique"
"NUH UH my HAKI lets me see into the future so I can avoid your stronger Haki cancelling my attack-cancelling move"
"NUH UH my HAKI is the strongest I can channel it through my sword to paralyze you from doing anything"
Imagine Oda coming up with a rank system for weapons, naming all the graded weapons, coming up with lore and curses for them, handing out the 12 strongest weapons in the world to only top tier characters and then peep a forum like this and see talks about throwing a beloved supreme grade sword into the ocean and pick up a flintlock pistol to fight someone like Rocks. 
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