Controversial General Political Discussion

[Zenos7]

Yeah. I still haven't explained this slogan and why it's generalizing yet accurate. You see, it's the problem with you guyz. You are sleeping, comfortable in your lives, thinking that you understand the world because someone taught you about critical thinking once. As such, you are unaware of the dawn but also the anger and reality of the world. I'll speak, when you will listen.

well what my point (and bisoromis) was is that it doesnt really matter what you want to imply using a slogan, the slogan itself at face value is generalizing a huge portion of the population, and that is fallacious.

and i dont feel like you have adressed bisoromis point at all so far, thats why i repeated it.

Acab stands for all cops are bastards.
If the message you want to convey is "the structure of our society fosters a climate that enables violence among the executive" then find an acronym for it.
Until then acab still means ALL cops are bastards.

this shit has been going on for pages my guy. so i think its safe to assume that what roo said below is the case

you won’t explain because it’s either stupid and you have realized that but continue the act, or because you don’t know

Acting like you’re above explaining something in a FORUM ffs lmao

because instead of this mental gymnastics, you could have just explained it pages ago. but you didnt. it is you who is dodging shit and deflecting lmao.
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Looking at the level of gaslight coming from both of you, you are definitely projecting here lmao

i dont think you know what "gaslight" or "project" means.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Pushing the idea that "reverse racism" aka racism against white people is not possible is dangerous. It may lead to a future where people of European heritage are discriminated or ethnically cleansed under the pretense that it's justified because white people are always the oppressors and therefore can never be victims of oppression.
We can already witness anti white and anti European bias under the guise of anticolonialism.
Considering that white and European people are, globally speaking, a minority this has the potential to get really hairy in a few decades or centuries

There are things you need to understand.

This is the only response I ever got to this post.
Fluffy keeps dodging conversations he doesn't want to have
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As well as this

similar to all men are trash.

They are not.
Ask the boys who live a life of (sexual) abuse at the hands of their own mothers what they think of this phrase. If they are brainwashed enough they might even agree with you.

Can you boys do me a favor?

I'm not a man🤣🤣🤣

 

[Logiko]

i dont think you know what "gaslight" or "project" means.

"I don't think you know what gaslight means" *proceeds in gaslighting me again* Lmao

this shit has been going on for pages my guy. so i think its safe to assume that what roo said below is the case

because instead of this mental gymnastics, you could have just explained it pages ago. but you didnt. it is you who is dodging shit and deflecting lmao.

This is the only response I ever got to this post.
Fluffy keeps dodging conversations he doesn't want to have

I will speak when you will listen.

As long as you do not understand the meaning behind this sentence and believe that it is a "word salad" you won't understand shit.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I will speak when you will listen.

'Listen to me'='obey and agree with me'

As long as you do not understand the meaning behind this sentence and believe that it is a "word salad" you won't understand shit.

'As long as you don't understand, you don't understand'
peak supreme logic right here from our most esteemed Leader of The Left

What happened to 'speak to women' little boy? I am a biological woman. All I see you do here is mansplaining feminism and women's rights.

 

[AL sama]

bruh

 

[Logiko]

'Listen to me'='obey and agree with me'

No. Just have an open ear. Either you are willing to open it, or not. But if you want to understand reality (maybe you don't, I don't know) you need to listen and have an open ear in this matter.

'As long as you don't understand, you don't understand'

You don't need to understand, to listen. That's what curiosity is for.

peak supreme logic right here from our most esteemed Leader of The Left

What happened to 'speak to women' little boy? I am a biological woman. All I see you do here is mansplaining feminism and women's rights.

If you have a reactionary position, I'll call your BS, no matter your gender or biology. You are wastin your time with your trolling mate.

 

[Blax Blah]

Looking through the leftist subreddits talking about Mamdani's win, and all I can do is be happy and think about how good God is

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Yeah. I still haven't explained this slogan and why it's generalizing yet accurate. You see, it's the problem with you guyz. You are sleeping, comfortable in your lives, thinking that you understand the world because someone taught you about critical thinking once. As such, you are unaware of the dawn but also the anger and reality of the world. I'll speak, when you will listen.

Bro you're not fucking Vegapunk and the real world is not a manga

i dont think you know what "gaslight" or "project" means.

He uses these as insults like a preschooler who learned a new word
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No. Just have an open ear. Either you are willing to open it, or not. But if you want to understand reality (maybe you don't, I don't know) you need to listen and have an open ear in this matter.

Well I asked you to respond to my posts. That's the definition of having an open ear and wanting to listen.

 

[Logiko]

Bro you're not fucking Vegapunk and the real world is not a manga

Listening implies a human to human form of respect. If noone is willing to show this form of respect, there will be no conversation.

When you speak, I contradict, but I ALWAYS listen first. For the moment, you guyz are not willing to do the same simple thing with me.

So I'm waiting for the moment when you will show me a minimum of respect, and maybe we will be able to have a conversation.

He uses these as insults like a preschooler who learned a new word

See above

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Writing 1000 word essays to not having to address statements other users made.

Wow.
Just wow.

 

[Uncle Van]

I don't understand...say something confusing and contradictory, refuse to explain it, and get upset when people are seemingly not understanding your point and demanding elaboration?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I don't understand...say something confusing and contradictory, refuse the explain it, and get upset when people are seemingly not understanding your point and demanding elaboration?

Manipulation tactics.
He'd be a great propaganda minister

 

[Logiko]

Writing 1000 word essays to not having to address statements other users made.

Wow.
Just wow.

If there is something I learned from this thread, is that explanations can only be convincing when the audience ask for them.

I don't understand...say something confusing and contradictory, refuse to explain it, and get upset when people are seemingly not understanding your point and demanding elaboration?

I'm not upset. I'm trying something new. I'm trying to replicate, with them, the feeling that made me seek uncomfortable information in the first place.. And I'm trying to show that there is a difference between someone arguing while demanding an explanation and someone trying to understand an opposite point of view through active listening.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

If there is something I learned from this thread, is that explanations can only be convincing when the audience ask for them.

I asked for your explanation 4 times or more.

 

[Logiko]

I asked for your explanation 4 times or more.

If I post a paragraph of more than 15 lines, will you read it with attention?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

If I post a paragraph of more than 15 lines, will you read it with attention?

20 lines max and I'll read.

 

[Logiko]

20 lines max and I'll read.

Ok. That's fair. What about you @Zenos7 ?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Just write your post already !
Am I not enough for you?

Ok. That's fair. What about you @Zenos7 ?

 

[Logiko]

Just write your post already !
Am I not enough for you?

I already have to figure how I need to approach this explanation to make it accessible without alienating you, I don't want to repeat the process ad infinitum

 

[AL sama]

I already have to figure how I need to approach this explanation to make it accessible without alienating you, I don't want to repeat the process ad infinitum

you've a huge vocab problem

for example this very post post of yours is coming off as if you're looking down on others but I know you didn't intend it that way

m I right??