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You said Palestinians want to destroy Israel and then proceed to name two terrorist organizations (only one of which is based in Palestine) that actively fight against Israel.
Talk about painting with broad strokes.
The peace talks point isn't even worth discussing when in most of them Palestine either a) wasn't directly represented by any representative, and b) deal were lopsided
Talk about painting with broad strokes.
The peace talks point isn't even worth discussing when in most of them Palestine either a) wasn't directly represented by any representative, and b) deal were lopsided
https://www.commondreams.org/news/a...ution-most-refuse-to-embrace-medicare-for-all
Seriously, what even is the argument against M4A? Rise in premiums? No, because private insurers already do that at least once a year; restricted access to care? Every provider in the US accepts Medicare, so that’s not it either; increased risk of claim fraud? I’ve been a healthcare biller for a decade now, and I can assure y’all that kind of thing will happen no matter what, so it shouldn’t be a bigger concern than it already is. The only thing detractors can say is that it’s a socialist practice, and we’ve all waxed philosophical on that concept as is…ergo, since there’s no real reason not to open it up to everyone, then it’s gotta be the usual - the unfettered, shameless greed of people who already have more money than God
Seriously, what even is the argument against M4A? Rise in premiums? No, because private insurers already do that at least once a year; restricted access to care? Every provider in the US accepts Medicare, so that’s not it either; increased risk of claim fraud? I’ve been a healthcare biller for a decade now, and I can assure y’all that kind of thing will happen no matter what, so it shouldn’t be a bigger concern than it already is. The only thing detractors can say is that it’s a socialist practice, and we’ve all waxed philosophical on that concept as is…ergo, since there’s no real reason not to open it up to everyone, then it’s gotta be the usual - the unfettered, shameless greed of people who already have more money than God
My guy, Hamas was democratically elected. The Palestinians voted for a group that swore in its charter to destroy Israel way back in 1988. They were elected in 2006. You mean to tell me the Palestinians hold no ill will towards Israel? Please, we are not children here. Hamas only softened its stance in 2017.
Back in the Ottoman Empire days, there wasn't such revolt over identity and sovereignty either. All of this is in response to Zionism. I don't support everything Israel does, but there is enough historical evidence to support the claim that the nonexistence of a Palestinian state is to be blamed on the Arabs themselves:
1937- Peel Commission
Zionist leaders accepted the proposition; Arabic leaders did not. In fact, they rejected the idea of partition entirely.
1947- UN Partition Plan (Resolution 181)
The Jewish agency accepted it; Arab states and Palestinian authorities rejected it.
2000- Camp David Summit
The offer included 100% of Gaza and 90% of the West Bank. Arafat did not accept.
2008-Ehud Olmert Proposal
~94% of the West Bank, 1:1 land swaps, shared Jerusalem, and an international plan for refugees. Abbas refused.
Granted some other negotiations were fucked up by Israelis—the 2001 Taba summit, for example—but it is very clear the Arabs have always been nitpicking about these terms.
Edit: Actually, I said that "Arabs" want Israel gone. Of course, it's a generalization. Many Arab nations have strong ties with Israel and could be considered "allied" nations. You get my point.
Back in the Ottoman Empire days, there wasn't such revolt over identity and sovereignty either. All of this is in response to Zionism. I don't support everything Israel does, but there is enough historical evidence to support the claim that the nonexistence of a Palestinian state is to be blamed on the Arabs themselves:
1937- Peel Commission
Zionist leaders accepted the proposition; Arabic leaders did not. In fact, they rejected the idea of partition entirely.
1947- UN Partition Plan (Resolution 181)
The Jewish agency accepted it; Arab states and Palestinian authorities rejected it.
2000- Camp David Summit
The offer included 100% of Gaza and 90% of the West Bank. Arafat did not accept.
2008-Ehud Olmert Proposal
~94% of the West Bank, 1:1 land swaps, shared Jerusalem, and an international plan for refugees. Abbas refused.
Granted some other negotiations were fucked up by Israelis—the 2001 Taba summit, for example—but it is very clear the Arabs have always been nitpicking about these terms.
Edit: Actually, I said that "Arabs" want Israel gone. Of course, it's a generalization. Many Arab nations have strong ties with Israel and could be considered "allied" nations. You get my point.
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Ignorant + coward + Fascist ideology + Colonist apologist (+ sanist)
Citizenship is not mentioned in the definitions, it concerns all people resident in the country and racialized groups. It's simply the case of strong a racial form of domination. Racism in the open, if you prefer. Technically, many western countries are paving the way to apartheid at the moment. I'm scared for the US especially.
Citizenship is not mentioned in the definitions, it concerns all people resident in the country and racialized groups. It's simply the case of strong a racial form of domination. Racism in the open, if you prefer. Technically, many western countries are paving the way to apartheid at the moment. I'm scared for the US especially.
Ottoman Empire in Palestine was chill compared to the Zionist deportations and genocide. As a matter of fact, Ottoman Empire as a whole was tolerant (with limits depending on which exact era) compared to its European neighbour with his « minorities » and its colonization.
Obviously not an utopia though
Obviously not an utopia though
Ignorant + coward + Fascist ideology + Colonist apologist (+ sanist)
Citizenship is not mentioned in the definitions, it concerns all people resident in the country and racialized groups. It's simply the case of strong a racial form of domination. Racism in the open, if you prefer. Technically, many western countries are paving the way to apartheid at the moment. I'm scared for the US especially.
Citizenship is not mentioned in the definitions, it concerns all people resident in the country and racialized groups. It's simply the case of strong a racial form of domination. Racism in the open, if you prefer. Technically, many western countries are paving the way to apartheid at the moment. I'm scared for the US especially.
No, Brazilians that migrate illegally deserve to be deported just like anyone else. The thing is, THERE IS NO ILLEGAL MASS MIGRATION OF BRAZILIANS GOING ON IN PORTUGAL. Btw, around ~5 million Brazilians are Portuguese citizens as well. We have received way more Portuguese in Brazil than the other way around.
There are over 25 ethnicities living in Brazil. Jews, Arabs, Asians, Africans, Europeans...you name them. We have historically received migrants from all over the world every time a conflict popped up. 99% of our population speaks Portuguese. They all assimilated into our culture, and we cherish the good things their cultures have shared with us. We don't have conflicts over ethnicity/religion.
You are trying to label me as a racist anti-immigration zealot with nothing to back your arguments. I wouldn't be saying a thing about Europe if there were no spike in criminality, disrespect of the European way of living, and political/cultural subversion perpetrated by said migrants. There would be no reason to complain about anything if life there was going on as usual; the problem is that European peace has been disturbed, and their national identities are also at risk.
But go on about how I'm such a racist for condemning ILLEGAL AND UNCONTROLLED IMMIGRATION. It's very easy to point fingers and virtue signal about shit you don't live from the safety of your mom's basement.
There are over 25 ethnicities living in Brazil. Jews, Arabs, Asians, Africans, Europeans...you name them. We have historically received migrants from all over the world every time a conflict popped up. 99% of our population speaks Portuguese. They all assimilated into our culture, and we cherish the good things their cultures have shared with us. We don't have conflicts over ethnicity/religion.
You are trying to label me as a racist anti-immigration zealot with nothing to back your arguments. I wouldn't be saying a thing about Europe if there were no spike in criminality, disrespect of the European way of living, and political/cultural subversion perpetrated by said migrants. There would be no reason to complain about anything if life there was going on as usual; the problem is that European peace has been disturbed, and their national identities are also at risk.
But go on about how I'm such a racist for condemning ILLEGAL AND UNCONTROLLED IMMIGRATION. It's very easy to point fingers and virtue signal about shit you don't live from the safety of your mom's basement.
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