Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1168 Spoilers Discussion
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Harald probably realized his mistake too late when Imu asked him to create the giant army which is not the path he is pursuing. He summoned Loki and Jarul to form the army because they seems to be the two strongest giants on the island.
The elders might have a part to play in this in revenge to what Loki did to the clan and his way of ruling the country. They likely framed Harald of treason and ordered the troops to kill him. That lead to what Loki and Jarul saw in the flashback.
Still not sure who creates the huge scratch mark on the throne room. Either Harald gains a demon form, God's Knights intervention, or Loki's DF power.
The elders might have a part to play in this in revenge to what Loki did to the clan and his way of ruling the country. They likely framed Harald of treason and ordered the troops to kill him. That lead to what Loki and Jarul saw in the flashback.
Still not sure who creates the huge scratch mark on the throne room. Either Harald gains a demon form, God's Knights intervention, or Loki's DF power.
Are you serious
The Revolutionary Army is at explicit war with the World Government
Harald doesn’t want to go to fucking war with the WG, he wants peace with them LMFAO
What exact future do you think Harald is trying to create for the children of Elbaph? The type of future where if they sneeze too loud, six Cipher Pol agents show up and murder them on sight?
Jesus H. Fucking Christ bro lmfao.
And the rest of those nations are at explicit war with the Government
If Harald wanted to go to war with the WG, he should absolutely do what you suggested and copy *checks notes* the actions of the fucking Revolutionary Army
The Revolutionary Army is at explicit war with the World Government
Harald doesn’t want to go to fucking war with the WG, he wants peace with them LMFAO
What exact future do you think Harald is trying to create for the children of Elbaph? The type of future where if they sneeze too loud, six Cipher Pol agents show up and murder them on sight?
Jesus H. Fucking Christ bro lmfao.
And the rest of those nations are at explicit war with the Government
If Harald wanted to go to war with the WG, he should absolutely do what you suggested and copy *checks notes* the actions of the fucking Revolutionary Army
Hurr durr, why would Harald's attempts at grand diplomacy be ultimately futile without the official approval of the WG?!
Does have giants in the Marines help clear their reputation? Yes.
Is kneeling to the Gorosei and marking yourself as their slave for life the immediate most logical step? Not so sure.
If Harald wanted to go to war with the WG, he should absolutely do what you suggested and copy *checks notes* the actions of the fucking Revolutionary Army
I think Ida was from some sort of special clan. One Imu wanted eradicated.
Maybe she had buccaneer blood or Davy blood, or something of the sort. Idk.
Anyways I think Imu ordered Harald to kill Hajrudin, causing the rift between the two that led to Harald being DR’d and Loki being forced to kill him.
Realistically I cannot see any other reason why Harald would betray Imu at this point. He already betrayed Rocks for the WG, ripped his horns out, even became a CD and bowed to Imu.
The only thing I can see causing Harald to change sides is if the WG threatened his family. And we know they have no issues with Loki, as Loki was similarly offered a place amongst the HKs. It has to be Hajrudin. He has something special, which is why he’s worthy to be king, and why the WG wanted him dead, forcing Harald to cut ties with them.
Maybe she had buccaneer blood or Davy blood, or something of the sort. Idk.
Anyways I think Imu ordered Harald to kill Hajrudin, causing the rift between the two that led to Harald being DR’d and Loki being forced to kill him.
Realistically I cannot see any other reason why Harald would betray Imu at this point. He already betrayed Rocks for the WG, ripped his horns out, even became a CD and bowed to Imu.
The only thing I can see causing Harald to change sides is if the WG threatened his family. And we know they have no issues with Loki, as Loki was similarly offered a place amongst the HKs. It has to be Hajrudin. He has something special, which is why he’s worthy to be king, and why the WG wanted him dead, forcing Harald to cut ties with them.
Did Harald really make a mistake? What other choice did he have? He went with whatever gave Elbaf a chance at peace with the rest of the world. How could he have known of Imu's true nature as not only the king of the world but the actual devil who uses magic to make his targets submit? Before being invited to the throne room Harald didn't even know of Imu's existence. He's far from as naive as Oden who was aware of the enemy throughout his years of sorry attempts at diplomacy. Harald did his best to serve Elbaf. He didn't even fail as hard as we thought he will, the giants' reputation improved across the world. He couldn't finish what he set out to do but laid the groundwork for future successors. Just like Roger? Xebec, Joyboy.
WCI has been raised by Kuzan, by Luffy, and by Kid, in this reverse order. It has nothing to do with the WG, but with piracy. Maintaining an Elbaf + affiliated nations in the WCI style could've been attainable without alienating either side of the giant population: you let the proud warriors like Loki have a role as defenders, and help the new generations who want an education and a peaceful life choose that.
